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June 22/13 WU - Moments of Sanity before Bedlam! (Page 6)

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Posted: 23 June 2013 at 9:00pm | IP Logged
@Anji, I totally agree with regard to disciplining Alok and Bhairav leave it half way. In case of Bhairav, DS never let him follow through and in case of Alok, Sachi comes in the way. Whenever someone tries to talk sense in her or point out her mistake, she will shut them up or throw a fit and walk off. Why let her do it. Make her sit where she is and let her respect and pay attention to what is being told to her. Why play into her tantrums or let her walk out of a conversation. That's so disrespectful to the person who is talking. I would have never dared do that in my house. Giving freedom is one thing and taking advantage of that freedom and disrespecting your elders is another. No doubt she can put her opinion forth but there is always a way, a tone and choice of words to do that. That's where Sachi fails miserably and the Shekhars fail to draw the line.

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Posted: 23 June 2013 at 9:47pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by andv

To continue my post, the J revenge track was totally illogical and stretched for eternity. He was always a brat and wanted things which were not his or which attracted him. Unfortunately for him the desire to have them ended the moment the novelty of his desire faded. Hence him begging dS for A or talking to S to back off were as per his basic nature. But the whole revenge and amnesia drama was a little to stretched and blown out of proportion.

All the same he has genuinely realized his mistakes and is trying to improve himself as well as make his parents proud. So that's the right step in the right direction. Hence I do support this new J. But I must admit that when he talks about safe guarding a woman as his duty or him giving talks of wisdom does make me feel a little taken aback given his past record. Here I feel the dialogue writers need to sketch a little more subtle and balanced dialouges keeping in mind that the person in question is still on an improvement/ reforming spree.  Naturally when a person in J's place who is high on guilt and trying to reform his ways will reflect and try to identify on incidents and situations which are similar to his own, thus bringing that humility and a sense of reflecting on his past actions in his speech. that's somethign which I feel the CVs overlook sometimes and do a good job otherwise.

With regard to Sachi, she is another spoiled brat and she knows exactly how to escape punishment by hitting the emotional nerve of her elders. Unless she is tackled in a stricter manner she will continue this behavior.  J's rejection will only stop her obsessing about him but her true nature will remain the same. Unless her immediate family lets her grow up and stops giving her a loose rope to her arrogance and over smartness, or for that matter play into her emotional blackmailing she is not going to change her ways. Personally I feel for Sachi to reform in general, its only her family who can do it effectively.
Anita - I agree with all these points.
 @ bold- Standi up for women's rights esp when he was telling Ganga that she should not let Ratan get away with it this was the same J who expected A to sit in a corner and cry.
Samething about reprimanding Sanchi for breaking rules set by her parents
It was quite odd to listen to him say all the thing he said even if he completely believed in all these things he said.
It would have been better if they have shown him reflecting over his past when he said all those things to Sanchi and Ganga
He is not some one who has been good and respected people's rights from the beginning. He learnt all those lessons only when life gave him a big kick.
But currently the way they are showing him there is a total disconnect between Jagya of old and the current Jagya.This current goodness came from what happened to him in the past. 
Only if he is shown feeling the pain from the loss and reflecting over his past deeds then can we believe that he is truly changing and change is permanent.




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Posted: 23 June 2013 at 10:04pm | IP Logged
Appy - the disconnect is atrocious... the guy who turned Anandi into Nandini and mocked her attire now lecturing Sanchi about  LOCWacko  If he had reflected before he said those dialogues then I would have been thrilled instead I found them comic

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@Aparna: Totally agree with you and well said. You put across what I was trying to say in a better way.
 
In the conversation that he had with A about him finding Sachi's behavior odd was well written where in he reflected on his past mistakes. Hence that came across as very natural and convincible. But the examples that you stated were where the CVs needed to take extra care.
 
I guess the Cvs get a little careless when it comes to transitioning characters. The same was the case with A too after marriage which the replacement made look more glaring and now here with J. Albeit Shashank covers up for it with his humble expressions, his dialogues would seal the deal if written well.

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Thanks for the update AnjanaBig smile

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Posted: 23 June 2013 at 10:33pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by andv

@Aparna: Totally agree with you and well said. You put across what I was trying to say in a better way.
 
In the conversation that he had with A about him finding Sachi's behavior odd was well written where in he reflected on his past mistakes. Hence that came across as very natural and convincible. But the examples that you stated were where the CVs needed to take extra care.
 
I guess the Cvs get a little careless when it comes to transitioning characters. The same was the case with A too after marriage which the replacement made look more glaring and now here with J. Albeit Shashank covers up for it with his humble expressions, his dialogues would seal the deal if written well.
That  scene came out so well because it was written well.They connected J of old with the present J and the A of haweli with A of Shekhar so well in that scene.

Deviating from the topic - CVs seem to take a lot of care when it comes to JaAn scenes.I wish they put in same effort with other scenes too like AnSh and JG2 too then it would make it a lot better even if Sanchi is creating havoc in every episode.

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Anita - from what I see, Sa is moulded in image of old J.  She is pretty much doing parallel stuffs... even the Kaan bharring...J did that with Nandu, etc... Sa is doing same with Sumi.  So, am sure she too will get her comeuppance eventually just as he did.  Also, just because he is "reformed" does not mean that he need not pay for his years of paap...Sanchi is surely punishment for his crimes...like harassment of AnSh, rail ghotala, etc. while they were engaged.     Once he's done this part of his penance, his reward will be Ganga...but, maybe Gauri will also return to rock the boat.  LOL  J tortured others for years, guess CVs are planning to torture him back for years.  
lol Anandi, Ganga are also  punished  for their paaps through Sanchi LOLThey will cry bucket full of tears when they will be bashed left right top bottom  LOLThese both will also  be tortured  J for him marriage is a torture He will not be happy even with Ganga either now if lets say his marriage is  fixed with her he will be upset same as he will be with Sanchi because his issue is same He doesn't want to marry but  forced 

and when did cvs didn't torture him did he ever have one peaceful moment everLOL come on Anj they destroyed him left him of nothing at one point now they are only having over dose like in Indian serials leads can never be happy otherwise show will end  Anandi and Jagaya will only be happy at end of the serial Happily ever after otherwise they will keep suffering 








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haha Anita this track will only end when viewers will give a strong kick to cvs otherwise i fear we will be going uttaran way Sanchi cutting her wrist Humain Jagdish chaheye warna hum mar jaen gain  LOLShe is behaving pretty much like Tapasya of uttaran who also was also doing some this kind of elaan-e -mohabbat I love him i will only marry him 

currently this love triangle is the main focus of BV Colors site and mostly articles are fully promoting it its not going to end so soon Stern Smile


@Bold Sidra don't make me scared, if that happens that's going to be the end of BV for me. An idiotic and obsessive lover is the last thing that the CVs need to keep the viewers glued. Already they have messed up what could have been a good story line by not focusing on A's career and G's struggle to be self dependent. Adding this Sachi drama will be a disaster.

I stopped watching Uttaran ages ago, may be just when the kid Ichha and Tapasya grew older. Does that show still run? I could not take the sadistic storyline even then. I wonder what all they might have come up with to keep the show running.
aww ok i won't scare youLOL Actually gone are days when i use to expect something good from Indian serials and also from BV as many times they disappoint you BV too disappointed at many places with stupid tracks Cannot yet forget Jagaya's revenge track That was nightmare such disaster of BV totally not required but forced in serial  and Sanchi's love story i guess we all expected that cvs will show us this when cvs made her say to Shiv she too will marry a divorcee At that time i laughed it off saying it will be  fun seeing Sanchi trying all to win Jagaya doing all  the things she hates to do and mocks Anandi for. I took it lightly never imagined it will be  such a head ache as cvs will push Sanchi down into our throats like this D'ohso can't expect anything better LOLand love triangles one male two females are passion of colors channel They cannot survive without it in which one lover has to be  too good and second one has to be jealous , obsessive , possessive , psycho and Sanchi has all these qualitiesLOLThis  is colors channel's uniqueness Their all shows must have a love triangles and they haveLOL

 Uttaran yes  Uttaran still runs  till now LOLThe story don't ask about it Story was never there after leap ROFLI had stopped seeing it as well  ages ago but unfortunately one of my favorite actors found from all shows only this show to enter D'ohso sometimes just take a peek in the show and it  spins my head WackoLOL


[/QUOTE]OMG sidra!! u scared me also.LOLplz don't say like this!! i don't want 2 watch 2nd UT.
like u said we've 2 take peek in the show bcoz of our fav. actor has chosen it 2 enter!!Ouchits already 2 much 4 me watching this crap 4 few mins or just taking peek in bcoz of this reason.

@love triangles in colors show wid either of the lover is pyscho, obsessive etc. is trademark like it used 2 b or still is trademark of ekta mai's showsSleepy except 4 one show where atleast 3rd party never bcame -ve!!Clap

@sanchi wanting 2 marry J - wen she said that diorcee thing i still hoped that its BV so it may not happen but was almost sure that @ sumpt. of  time they may take this in future bcoz i'd lost my trust on BV CVs long ago wen they made J -ve stupidily & illogically & dragged AnSh wedding track & SR track!!Sleepy

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