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Posted: 14 June 2013 at 2:41am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Krani

Originally posted by hit_homerun

[QUOTE=Krani][QUOTE=hit_homerun][QUOTE=Rehanism]

Okay.

Now tell me something. 

A man walks in front of you shirtless and in boxers. What would you call him?

robbed of robes ! LOL
A man is walking behind him, fully clothed, wearing kurta pyjama. What would you call him?

fully clothed .
Would you stare at the man who is shirtless or the man who is clothed? 
i would optically molest the naked one so hard , and shamelessly that he will never , ever come out naked again . u know the weird kind of stares that scare the hell out of ya !Wink
  

seriously - 
neither . i would politely avert my gaze from the first one , why would i stare @ the latter ?
When you stare at them, what are the thoughts that would go through your mind?

naked - chaar aana chahiye ? 
not naked - um , i really dont know , can u specify my situation 

seriously - i wouldnt be staring @ the first place . but that doesnt mean i accept what i see .

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Posted: 14 June 2013 at 2:44am | IP Logged
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Edited by hit_homerun - 14 June 2013 at 2:45am
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Posted: 14 June 2013 at 4:58am | IP Logged
Originally posted by hit_homerun

Originally posted by Krani

Originally posted by hit_homerun

[QUOTE=Krani][QUOTE=hit_homerun][QUOTE=Rehanism]

Okay.

Now tell me something. 

A man walks in front of you shirtless and in boxers. What would you call him?

robbed of robes ! LOL
A man is walking behind him, fully clothed, wearing kurta pyjama. What would you call him?

fully clothed .
Would you stare at the man who is shirtless or the man who is clothed? 
i would optically molest the naked one so hard , and shamelessly that he will never , ever come out naked again . u know the weird kind of stares that scare the hell out of ya !Wink
  

seriously - 
neither . i would politely avert my gaze from the first one , why would i stare @ the latter ?
When you stare at them, what are the thoughts that would go through your mind?

naked - chaar aana chahiye ? 
not naked - um , i really dont know , can u specify my situation 

seriously - i wouldnt be staring @ the first place . but that doesnt mean i accept what i see .


Okay for the above men and the below women, could you tell how would you judge them? What kind of labels you would attach to them? I am trying to understand why any person not covering their skin becomes "nanga punga attention seekers" to you...or is it that this label is only directed at a couple of people? LOL

Anyway:

A woman walks out wearing shorts and a tight top with a hint of cleavage. What would you call her? 

A woman walks out wearing a burqa - what would you call her? 


Edited by Krani - 14 June 2013 at 5:03am
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Posted: 14 June 2013 at 9:20am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Krani

Originally posted by hit_homerun

[QUOTE=Krani]

Okay for the above men and the below women, could you tell how would you judge them? What kind of labels you would attach to them? I am trying to understand why any person not covering their skin becomes "nanga punga attention seekers" to you...or is it that this label is only directed at a couple of people? LOL

Anyway:

A woman walks out wearing shorts and a tight top with a hint of cleavage. What would you call her? 

A woman walks out wearing a burqa - what would you call her? 

*sigh*
tired of playing koffee with krani Smile

i just want to clear up , saying that u had me not to call names . 
i would pass labels @ people who show too much skin . 
what are my limits ?
check previous posts ! 

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Posted: 14 June 2013 at 9:32am | IP Logged
dear all -


@ krani - i appreciate ur attempts at proving ur point . u had me many a times . this whole thing now seems a basic conversation between me and u , dont u think ?Tongue
@ rehanism - i appreciate ur fervency on this subject . that u  , felt so strongly against people who would judge people based on attires .
@ donna harvey - practical approach on the subject . well said 

@ chcobarun - u posted the whole thing !?LOL 

@ others - thnx for participatin Smile

it was very subtle for all of us , not to attribute the topic against any culture or religion !
and just like any debate , this context  too ends with a question mark 

subsequently , i agree , not to be judgmental regarding the exposers . and yes i do not have any right to impose on them what to wear . 
i still strongly deny clothes revealing too much . but will refrain from labeling them .

and i would pity them , for their couture predicament !LOL

what can u say let bygones be bygones ?!!!LOL

topic closed 

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Posted: 14 June 2013 at 9:38am | IP Logged
Originally posted by hit_homerun

Originally posted by Krani

Originally posted by hit_homerun

[QUOTE=Krani]

Okay for the above men and the below women, could you tell how would you judge them? What kind of labels you would attach to them? I am trying to understand why any person not covering their skin becomes "nanga punga attention seekers" to you...or is it that this label is only directed at a couple of people? LOL

Anyway:

A woman walks out wearing shorts and a tight top with a hint of cleavage. What would you call her? 

A woman walks out wearing a burqa - what would you call her? 

*sigh*
tired of playing koffee with krani Smile

i just want to clear up , saying that u had me not to call names . 
i would pass labels @ people who show too much skin . 
what are my limits ?
check previous posts ! 

Aww I was actually enjoying this :P I was also also doing it to actually understand why you have such an aversion to showing skin :)

But I guess if you don't wanna discuss this anymore, fair enough.


Edited by Krani - 14 June 2013 at 9:39am

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Posted: 14 June 2013 at 10:06am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Krani

Originally posted by hit_homerun

[QUOTE=Krani][QUOTE=hit_homerun][QUOTE=Krani]


Aww I was actually enjoying this :P I was also also doing it to actually understand why you have such an aversion to showing skin :)

But I guess if you don't wanna discuss this anymore, fair enough.

yeah yeah , im sure even karan enjoyed drilling those stars LOLLOL

u were probably enjoying , because , well , i was , sounding - unreasonable Embarrassed

but then i saw rehanism post 
he seems really offended 
so i resigned .!

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Posted: 14 June 2013 at 10:13pm | IP Logged
I don't have the faintest idea how you found me offended. And even if I were offended I wouldn't have demanded people to stop debating on the topic. Right to offend is a part of freedom of speech and getting offended cannot be a limit to that freedom.

Do I feel strongly on this matter? Ofcourse I do. This is a matter of human rights and I feel everyone should feel strongly about it. And especially when one sees that people are using the issue of rape and sexual assault to legitimize and further their own prejudiced cultural norms..

Originally posted by Rehanism

Originally posted by maha2us

I am now telling my views on this topic.


One guideline I can have for whether I can do something or not whether doing that is loving to me or is it harming to me? Anyone who likes to be nude can ask this question. While I can definitely accept anyone has her choice of having any dress, what happens to her is her own responsibility. An important point to be noted is the society in this World is full of wrong elements and each person has to do her needful to take care of herself.

Already there have been comments in this section, the dress of a lady can also attract rapists to her. Can crying after raping help her, if she didn't do her own homework to take care of herself?

I couldn't have disagreed more with anyone on anything...Under no circumstances is it victim's responsibility for what happens to her.

Many studies have been conducted so far on the psychology of rape and there's no evidence to prove that clothes play any factor in 'attracting' rapists. Most of the rape victims across the world (i.e. above 90%) were, what one may call, moderately dressed and what's more surprising is most of the rapists, when interrogated later, themselves don't remember what their victim wore. In over three-fourth of all rape cases the attacker was someone the victim knew well, more than often a member of house. Further if seductive clothes are a factor, one is at loss to explain the rape epidemic in Egypt or Sudan or Lebanon - or the gang rapes of dalits and tribals in India, or the rape of minors and old women in the most conservative part of the world..The psychology of rape is that of violence, revenge, control, punishment and ego. It has little to do with lust or sexual attraction.


I won't call it offensive, but its definitely saddening how religious and cultural indoctrination has left so many women with a permanent Stockholm syndrome to an extent that they willfully lend a shoulder to the same patriarchal values (and defend its legitimacy) that subjugate their own kind. Women in conservative societies grow up to see their bodies as an object of honour for their family and an object of temptation for the rest of the world. Consecutively, thanks to their upbringing, in the wake of any sexual assault, they believe that they must have done something to bring it upon themselves or in some way enticed their rapist, and therefore they share a part - if not whole - of the responsibility. This is also known as Battered wife's syndrome and this is a reason, among others, why a vast majority of the rape cases go unreported in these societies..




Edited by Rehanism - 14 June 2013 at 10:14pm

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