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I want to first begin with a round of applause to each and every one of you!  I feel that every one's post is just outstanding and brilliant!!!  You are all very intelligent and talented..... Clap (Through upbringing or genetics what ever it may be)

Back to the topic as hang....I don't know what more to add.

SIA - is definitely like her mother and her father.  It's obvious how she's just like her mom, as you all have mentioned above.  The following are a few things that come to my mind that relate to her father:

          Both had an eye for photography

          Both were driven extremely stubborn 

          Both choose to do their own things without thinking about how it might hurt their loved ones, especially their parents.

          Both are extremely passionate and carefree people.  Saurabh once has mistress in the very beginning of the show but later changed his ways, so between her parents and grandparents, to a certain extent this very fact could have influenced SIA's inherited personality.

We don't see SIA being motivated at all in academics, she seems to be more concern with matters of the heart and emotions. 

Astha - With Astha all i can say is that she's just brought up to be a brat.  She's been sheltered and that has resulted in her personality and her behavior.  Even though Neha was emotional, she wasn't a brat like her daughter.  Astha is more like her grandmothers (nani and dadi); both were emotional and use to take extreme measures in times of distress.  Although the dadi changed later on in the show, initially she was extremely hot headed. 

Both Astha and SIA have one thing in common; they both were raised without a father.  Even thought Astha had the influence of her grandfather, there still seems to be a distance.

With Sia, you see her not truly aware of the father daughter relationship, and with Astha, she too can't understand the relationship she has with Sid.  For her any caring gesture or affection is misread into love.  Both don't know what the meaning of relationships and are immature when it comes to understand what each of them mean.

I have to say both girls are like Abhi when he was younger.

Thanks.

 

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Before I begin to write my view points on this topic, I would like to thank all the members who have given their input on this topic. I must tell you all that the replies were simply great, one exceeding the other.

I would like to give a special mention to the replies by Akshata. Tremendous analysis, very thoughtful, I must say. Keep it up, Akshata.

This topic as Anjali puts it, "Nature Vs. Nurture" is very debateable.According to me, a child inherits some qualities, some mannerisms from parents. But it is also true that the child gains from the environment in which it grows. So I would say that it is a Mixture of both "Nature" and "Nurture".

In general, if you see a child or a grown-up, you can indentify in his /her face, a resemblance to either of the parents. The child might have acquired certain mannerisms from them, it may be anything - standing style, walking style, way of speaking, likes and dislikes with regard to food ....the list is endless.

I would at this point, like to tell you all something about me. I have a unique style of holding my pen or pencil while writing. Unique in the sense, many of my friends, who have noticed this, have burst into laughter. But, to tell you the real truth, my father holds his pen the same way I hold it. So do you all think that I have copied this minute stylefrom my father? The answer is NO. This has just come in me, my parents noticed this similaritiy in our writing style when I was in my Std 6...This is just a very small example thro' which I want to tell you all that "Certain Qualities can be inherited".

Now i will move on to the real Topic of Discussion.

I would list out certain characteristic traits in AStha and Sia and then compare them to their parents.

The Wavery Nature of Astha: Astha wants to become a doctor just because Simran is a doctor. She has promised her mother that that she will one day, become a doctor. But, to become a doctor, one needs to put in lot of hard work. But Astha, a playful character as she is, wants to enjoy life. She is not serious about her studies. She always makes up her mind to study well, attend classes, read in the library. But she then thinks otherwise, does not keep upto what she has thought.
THis wavery nature in Astha has come from her father Abhi who also suffered from this. He married Simran, then went to Kiran, repented forleaving Simran, wanted Simran back, married Neha. So he never had his prorities straight on marriage.

Astha not Understanding Situations: Astha after knowing the truth that Simran is not her mother, could have calmed down, understood Simran's viewpoint. But she never did that. She got wild at a woman who devoted 18 long years forher.
Abhi also messed up many situations because of his immaturity. To talk of the worst, he allowed Neha to brood over the fact that he was more friendly ans caring for Simran.
If only Abhi had the maturity, he could have clearly bridged between Friendship for Simran and Love,Affection for Neha. This line between Friendship and Love is very thin, but one should be very clear in drawing this line. Abhi did not do this, did not understand the situation , thus lost Neha.

The Impulsive, Insecure Nature of Astha: Astha has been brought up by Simran in a very pampered way. One thing, Astha has known in life is that, she should be loved by all. When she saw Simran caring for Divya at first, then Sia, Astha lost her cool, felt insecure and jealous.
This attitude , she has inherited from her mother, Neha who was a very insecure character. She was very insecure before marriage because she had a mentally unstable mother, then, she was a very insecure wife, always used to have the fear of Abhi going away to Simran.

Astha is very impulsive in her reactions. She always has the attitude of jumping into conclusions without analysing things. She behaved very rudely with Simran after she got to know that Simran is not her mother.
Neha, her mother, also did the same thing. She could have analysed the Abhi-Simran issue in a better way, talked her heart out in a cool and composed manner to Abhi. She did not do it and was very impulsive in whatever she did.

Now I would move on to Sia.

Liking for Photography, Books: Sia has a liking for photography. She loves to read books. She gets so involved reading those books that she remembers the writings in the books she has read.
Abhi was a fashion photographer, so Sia has inherited that trait from her father. Abhi used to write columns in papers, now writes books. So the intellectual mind to read and understand human relationships has come to Sia from Abhi.

Great Level of Maturity, Sensibility, Determination, Dedication: Sia at her tender age, is so mature, has her priorities set. Though she reacted rudely to Archana once she knew about her truth, she quickly analysed the issue, told Archana some soothing words that she is her mother.
Sia is able to advise anyone, be it Simran, AStha, Sid. She shows a high level of maturity, sensibility.
She has inherited this from Simran who was very mature from a small age. Simran had her priorities set, wanted to do service as a doctor, achieved it. The same levl of dedication and determination can also be seen in Sia. Sia was determined to ctach her friends' killers. She did it. So, Sia, like Simran, knows the art of setting targets in life and achieving them.

So with this comparison, I say that AStha has taken up all the worst qualities from her parents. Though there weer certain nice qualities in Neha and Abhi, AStha has inherited a set of bad qualities from her parents.
Sia on the other hand, has taken up only the good qualities of her parents, Abhi and Simran and not inherited the bad or negative qualities in them.

 

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I personally think that genetic factors do impact on someone's behaviour; plus childern develop their own behaviour from the circumstances they are brought up in.

Astha"Guriya" does act like her mother (Neha) when she feels insecure and jealous. She is very short tempered and does not think before she does anything.

On the other hand "Sia" (Astha) is like her father: She has same qualities as journalism and photography. She also has Abhi's negative qualities as She thinks she in in love with Anand who is her father's age( not knowing that he is his father). Abhi fell in love with Simram who was ten years older that him. She also has Simran's qualities as smart, calm, soft hearted, proplem solver etc. She tries to solve her own problems rather than blaming only on other people. Finally she realized that eventhough, Archana is not her mother, but there is still love and affection betwween them.

In essence, parents behaviour does reflect on children.

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Here is an interesting link that talks about behaviour and genetics:

http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/elsi/beha vior.shtml

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Posted: 26 May 2005 at 11:32am | IP Logged
Originally posted by sree_20

Before I begin to write my view points on this topic, I would like to thank all the members who have given their input on this topic. I must tell you all that the replies were simply great, one exceeding the other.

I would like to give a special mention to the replies by Akshata. Tremendous analysis, very thoughtful, I must say. Keep it up, Akshata.

This topic as Anjali puts it, "Nature Vs. Nurture" is very debateable.According to me, a child inherits some qualities, some mannerisms from parents. But it is also true that the child gains from the environment in which it grows. So I would say that it is a Mixture of both "Nature" and "Nurture".

In general, if you see a child or a grown-up, you can indentify in his /her face, a resemblance to either of the parents. The child might have acquired certain mannerisms from them, it may be anything - standing style, walking style, way of speaking, likes and dislikes with regard to food ....the list is endless.

I would at this point, like to tell you all something about me. I have a unique style of holding my pen or pencil while writing. Unique in the sense, many of my friends, who have noticed this, have burst into laughter. But, to tell you the real truth, my father holds his pen the same way I hold it. So do you all think that I have copied this minute stylefrom my father? The answer is NO. This has just come in me, my parents noticed this similaritiy in our writing style when I was in my Std 6...This is just a very small example thro' which I want to tell you all that "Certain Qualities can be inherited".

Now i will move on to the real Topic of Discussion.

I would list out certain characteristic traits in AStha and Sia and then compare them to their parents.

The Wavery Nature of Astha: Astha wants to become a doctor just because Simran is a doctor. She has promised her mother that that she will one day, become a doctor. But, to become a doctor, one needs to put in lot of hard work. But Astha, a playful character as she is, wants to enjoy life. She is not serious about her studies. She always makes up her mind to study well, attend classes, read in the library. But she then thinks otherwise, does not keep upto what she has thought.
THis wavery nature in Astha has come from her father Abhi who also suffered from this. He married Simran, then went to Kiran, repented forleaving Simran, wanted Simran back, married Neha. So he never had his prorities straight on marriage.

Astha not Understanding Situations: Astha after knowing the truth that Simran is not her mother, could have calmed down, understood Simran's viewpoint. But she never did that. She got wild at a woman who devoted 18 long years forher.
Abhi also messed up many situations because of his immaturity. To talk of the worst, he allowed Neha to brood over the fact that he was more friendly ans caring for Simran.
If only Abhi had the maturity, he could have clearly bridged between Friendship for Simran and Love,Affection for Neha. This line between Friendship and Love is very thin, but one should be very clear in drawing this line. Abhi did not do this, did not understand the situation , thus lost Neha.

The Impulsive, Insecure Nature of Astha: Astha has been brought up by Simran in a very pampered way. One thing, Astha has known in life is that, she should be loved by all. When she saw Simran caring for Divya at first, then Sia, Astha lost her cool, felt insecure and jealous.
This attitude , she has inherited from her mother, Neha who was a very insecure character. She was very insecure before marriage because she had a mentally unstable mother, then, she was a very insecure wife, always used to have the fear of Abhi going away to Simran.

Astha is very impulsive in her reactions. She always has the attitude of jumping into conclusions without analysing things. She behaved very rudely with Simran after she got to know that Simran is not her mother.
Neha, her mother, also did the same thing. She could have analysed the Abhi-Simran issue in a better way, talked her heart out in a cool and composed manner to Abhi. She did not do it and was very impulsive in whatever she did.

Now I would move on to Sia.

Liking for Photography, Books: Sia has a liking for photography. She loves to read books. She gets so involved reading those books that she remembers the writings in the books she has read.
Abhi was a fashion photographer, so Sia has inherited that trait from her father. Abhi used to write columns in papers, now writes books. So the intellectual mind to read and understand human relationships has come to Sia from Abhi.

Great Level of Maturity, Sensibility, Determination, Dedication: Sia at her tender age, is so mature, has her priorities set. Though she reacted rudely to Archana once she knew about her truth, she quickly analysed the issue, told Archana some soothing words that she is her mother.
Sia is able to advise anyone, be it Simran, AStha, Sid. She shows a high level of maturity, sensibility.
She has inherited this from Simran who was very mature from a small age. Simran had her priorities set, wanted to do service as a doctor, achieved it. The same levl of dedication and determination can also be seen in Sia. Sia was determined to ctach her friends' killers. She did it. So, Sia, like Simran, knows the art of setting targets in life and achieving them.

So with this comparison, I say that AStha has taken up all the worst qualities from her parents. Though there weer certain nice qualities in Neha and Abhi, AStha has inherited a set of bad qualities from her parents.
Sia on the other hand, has taken up only the good qualities of her parents, Abhi and Simran and not inherited the bad or negative qualities in them.

 

Sree!  Very well said.

There is one point in you post that I throughly disagree with.  Astha might have gone after Neha and Abhi, but I can't say that she's has all of there "negative" qualities.

For one, Astha can't see any injustice happening, so she may react harshly and take drastic measures, but her heart is in the right place.  This can't be negative.  This was Abhi's quality as well.

Her actions may be considerend bad or negative, but that doesn't necessaryly mean that she has "bad or negative" qualities.

Compare to SIA, she is very emotional.  She thinks through her heart, not her head, but agian , that doesnt mean SIA is a better person than the other.

Astha should not be blamed for how she feels or reacts.  To a certain extent, I can understand how she's feeling.  Her reality was hidden from her for so many years.  She was raised by her mother, and with out a father.  Now all of a sudden, she finds out by chance that she is not Simran's daughter.  She feel all alone in this world.  To add to that, Radha who is her actual Nani feeds her will all the other crap, it's only natural to reach that way.  She finds out that her real mother died because of Simran.  Who can she trust??  What would any of us do in this situation?

We as an audiance know what Simran is all about and how she loves Astha, but for her prespective, it's going to take time for her to understand the reality.

Sia has the same feeling too, otherwise why would she insist on looking for her real mother, even after she realizes her mother and Nani love her so much.

The only difference is that SIA thinks with her head and Astha with her heart.

But I believe no quality or aspect of a person's life is bad or negative....only thoughts and actions are.  It's all in the prespective and circumstances.  

Sree, I hope this was not too offending to you.  This was my prespective on the matter.

Thanks

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Astha reacted quite rashly and immaturely, saying she no longer wanted to talk to Simran or anyone that had raised her that was not biologically related to her. At times, Neha was also a bit rash and immature, acting immediately on her feelings

TO THAT COMMENT MADE FROM A MEMBER ABOVE I WOULD LIKE TO ADD MY OWN COMMENTS SEE BELOW

How can you make that comment when Neha lived through some hell Angrywhen her lunatic husband AbiAngry never spoke to her but always screamed at her.

He took out all his problems on poor Neha and she took all that from that lunatic.  I would of gave lunatic (abi) some HELL and kicked him out of my life.  Simiran ain't that wonderful.........she was all over in their relationship (neha's & lunatic aka Abi).  Lunatic's parents are also lunatic giving that child away to this women (simran) who really bough about the death of Neha.  I know that Radha is crazy but one thing she says is true "Simrin killed Neha"

 

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I really like the Character Astha even though she got on my nerve at first.  She is just having fun and should give up becoming a doctor and do something she can use her fun loving personality.  She can go into TV or Movies............

Sia needs to get rid of her wig and stop visiting Anand (her father Wacko) and stop day dreaming about him.........VOMIT.........

 

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HOW CAN ALL OF YALL JUST CALL ABI BEING JUST IMATURE.........HE WAS IN HIS THIRTIES AND YOU CALL HIM IMMATURE.  TO ME HE WAS JUST AN IDIOT WHO WAS A LUNATIC............DID YALL FORGET HE JUST SCREAMED AT NEHA.  NEHA WAS JUST A HELPLESS TIMID BUT LOVING YOUNG LADY. 

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