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Posted: 18 April 2013 at 5:33pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Gumrah...

@ Aarya + Quirky - I know of many graduates, that are doing jobs in completely different fields from their study. I guess, once you get your first break then opportunities to progress is clearer. I am still waiting for my first proper break. I have had many jobs as a student, but none of them were graduate level jobs. I suppose what looks good in my resume, is experience in blooming every field ie catering, retail, customer service, labs, contact centers, bank, sales and hospital LOL.. Some look at my resume and presume i am a job hopper, whilst others may look at it me being able to adapt myself in various environment. Either way, i am still struggling to get my first break in a graduate paid job right now  *Sighs*. 

You've got a heck of a lot of experience there.. Now you have me worried about my position after I obtain my degree. LOL Some one once told me it's all about the way you promote your self - Do a bit of background search for the company you're aiming at, change the CV around with words they'd want to read, say things that they'd wanna hear and present your self in a manner that'd assure em that the skills you're offering them with is what they need & you'll be sweet! Even if you get into the company via a different field, you can work your way through - Usually a lot of Jobs get passed around internally before being offered to the outsiders.

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Posted: 18 April 2013 at 7:35pm | IP Logged
My 10 cents:

1. These frustrations are part of life. 2-3 years from now, you would be advising other freshers.

2. Put yourself in the shoes of the hiring manager and think. Who would you hire? Someone with experience who can hit the ground running or a greenhorn who might need a lot of hand holding and mentoring to get the job done? With that understanding, you would learn to appreciate their point of view as well.

3. Ask yourself if you are being too ambitious in your job search and gunning only for the really big uns (Multinational companies, global conglomerates, Big 4 and such) or considering other smaller players too.

4. Ask yourself if your compensation expectations are too high.

5. Can you intern anywhere? Even for free?

6. Any college projects that you can highlight as practical experience?

7. Send out hundreds of resumes. Volume matters.

8. It's not just a problem for the freshers. Even experienced people sometimes find it daunting to switch jobs because their experience doesn't match with what the prospective employer is looking for. I am a software professional and if I have experience in, say, Microsoft's .NET, I will still find it a difficult undertaking to land a job that is demanding Java experience. And if Microsoft's .NET jobs dry up, and all open positions are for Java, and my company downsizes, a fresher and me will find ourselves in the same boat. Point is, even once we get a job, we have to continue learning, training and enhancing our skill-sets, otherwise we are out of the rat race.

9. Sometimes, you have to swallow pride. Checking on the prospective employer more than once, and touch basing, even if they rejected you with extreme prejudice, is still OK

10. One too many failures might hurt the confidence but then that hurt might only come in the way of performing well in the next interview. We have to learn to erase bad memories, that way. For our own good.

Good luck!

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Posted: 18 April 2013 at 10:57pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Gumrah...

@ Vintage wine LOL. That is CLASSIC. Out of interest, how many times have you replicated that letter to the  employers who rejected you? I am sure they must have kicked themselves really hard after reading your gem of a letter, and realising the biggest mistake of their lives by not employing you!  such a bright cookie you areTongue

  @ Bold:  Hahaha ..Awww ..Tongue ..Thanks heaps mon ..And I hope you weren't kidding there .Wow ...Finally I could find someone who knows my worth ...Tongue

   Well to be honest ..I have decided to teach those snotty employers a lesson ...Hahaha ..I have stopped applying for jobs ...and I won't until everyone in this world has a job ..Thus making me the only applicant ( I mean a jobless one ) left for em to employ ...Tongue .

    It ll be so much fun to watch em try to make it up to me ..As they plead with me to accept the job offer ...Hahaha ...LOL ..Trust ME ..I'm waiting for that day and practicing the smirk ...LOL

   Vintu...Tongue

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Posted: 18 April 2013 at 11:05pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by .Quirky.Feline.


Couldn't have worded it better.
Now, would ya be kind enough to give me your private email address so I can send the same to you ? Ouch .. I just received my 77th rejection from your company last week & I have no funds to buy off your company's stock either. LOL


     77 ?  ...Hahaha ..I knew it ...LOL.. You won't let go off a chance to mock ME like that in public ..Cause you know I can't count beyond 19 or may be 20 ...Right ? ..Ouch  ..Thanks for reminding me of that ...

   Yeah ..Mail Me privately on ...[email protected]   and continue the mocking there ...Ouch  ..


   Vintu ...Tongue


    Ps:  You are Evil ...Ouch


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Posted: 19 April 2013 at 3:07am | IP Logged
Quirky _ as a graduate, i can only advise you to get any kind of experience you can possibly get, even as voluntary in your OWN field (. The problem with me at the moment is that although i have experience in most fields at simple position but i have none in my own field of study even as voluntary position , I am smart that way eh? LOL . 

@ Mr K.

I understand the employers situation in hiring fresh grads since they mostly lack exposure in their field. I blame the education and university for that, what is the point of going to university if they won't expose you to the job nature? I think, every course should have placements and every student should get the chance to either voluntary work in their field or their course should at least be registered and recognised with the professionals. The vocational courses offer you that, and let me tell you my scene. I spent four years of my life doing undergrad, in science degree. I obtained my degree from a good university, BUT my course was not even accredited or registered. I made the mistake of going to a completely different degree, vocational course at Msc level, where i did get placements, LOTS of placement but unfortunately i don't enjoy the nature of work and struggled due to intensive, fast track course nature. I am now left with, a degree that is not accredited and Postgrad experience in placement that nobody will give a damn about.  LOL Brilliant situation? 

Most of my friends at my age are living in a better condition than me atm, where they are either professionally or personally settled.  However i can only just say i am unique in myself for making mistakes all my life, and hoping one day, i will make the right choices or get the right opportunities LOL

Ps there is no such thing as failure  in life, it is only feedback :)!

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Posted: 19 April 2013 at 8:37am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Vintage.Wine

     77 ?  ...Hahaha ..I knew it ...LOL.. You won't let go off a chance to mock ME like that in public ..Cause you know I can't count beyond 19 or may be 20 ...Right ? ..Ouch  ..Thanks for reminding me of that ...

   Yeah ..Mail Me privately on ...[email protected]   and continue the mocking there ...Ouch  ..


   Vintu ...Tongue


    Ps:  You are Evil ...Ouch

Gotcha - I seem to have set a benchmark.. You never had to reject one's application more than 19/20 times until mine came along. Ouch Surely a lot less evil than you, Monsieur. LOL

vintu@"rejectedapplicants".org .. Wth, I'm sorry but I ain't keen on adding my self to the list of rejected applicants. Nice try. Um, lets give... Snail Mail a go ?  LOL  

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Posted: 19 April 2013 at 8:42am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Gumrah...

Quirky _ as a graduate, i can only advise you to get any kind of experience you can possibly get, even as voluntary in your OWN field (. The problem with me at the moment is that although i have experience in most fields at simple position but i have none in my own field of study even as voluntary position , I am smart that way eh? LOL . 

Yep, of course  - Once I narrow it down to that one field I want to be a part of. Goes to show how indecisive I am.
You've tried&tested enough fields already, now you have all the time to focus on that one field.. doesn't sound too bad. LOL

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