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Posted: 19 June 2014 at 8:02am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Surya_krsnbhakt

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Why Rushimunis & ancient yogis assume Mahadev's Shape form ?

What was need ?

we know that he is shapeless


Oh do you mean that, "Why did the rishis imagine God's form when he has no form?"
DIfficult.
Because, this form is not imagined at all. It is the original form of Lord Shiva. And the formless thing...
You see, two main schools of thought are Dvaita and Advaita.
One considers that everything is Nashwar (Advaita) and another (Dvaita) considers that GOd is eternal, so his creation is also eternal. (Eternal doesn't mean never destroyed, just that there cannot be absolutely NOTHING).
So, if you see from Dvaita, God's form is true, not Maya. But Advaita considers the form as Maya.
So Nirguna in Advaita means formless, which is what you are saying..
BUt according to Dvaita, (and other related philosophy like Vishishtadvaita and CHaitanya Mahaprabhu's) Nirguna does NOT mean formless. It means without any earthly qualities. Transcendental.
Therefore, to make things short, nothing about Lord SHiva's form is imagined.


Thanks a lot for answer

But Mahadev's all stories are myth only

Who have seen God's Dwait form in world ? Can it exist ?

Even we are here from Nothing...because all the elements are mainly Energy as per Science & Energy is shapeless ...who we say Adi Shakti in Hinduism

Why Shiva made Universe from him ? And He made Sakar from Nirakar

What i know that we are here from Energy which never exist in shape form but Enegy can create shapes from it & 1 day in the world all will be shapeless again as before Lakes  years

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Hm.. so you believe the scientific concepts but you are not able to understand how can Mahadev exist in his form...
Then take even Mahadeva's form symbolically:
Mahadeva is generally seen wearing a tiger skin, with ash smeared on his body, and the Ganga on his head, and poison in his throat, Snake around his neck with a Trishul, right?
Now when we die, what is left? Ash. Bhasma. This is the bhasma on Lord Shiva. Symbolises we all will become that only one day.
The snake coils around his neck. Usually Snake represents Time (like Adisesha of Vishnu). This time coils around the neck of SHiva, showing that he himself is Time and knows everything.
Tiger is an example of all the evil things around us. BY wearing its skin, he shows that he conquers all the evil.
Poison represents the evil INSIDE us. He stops it from spreading all over, by keeping it in his neck. Thus he prevents evil thoughts also.
Ganga represents purity. Purity is from him. He is everything pure, taht is shown by Ganga.
The moon represents good thoughts. By keeping moon on his head, he shows that he has all supreme thoughts.
Trishul represents three Gunas: Sattva Rajas Tamas. By controlling them, he shows that he is beyond all three gunas. I hope now you understand why this form of God, and that this is not some imagined fairytale of the Rishis.

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Ok DOUBT!!
So in Bhagavatam (the problem mostly arises from this Purana ain't it?Wink)
So in Bhagavatam, when Sati talks with Shiva about the Daksha Yagya and why she wants to go, she calls Mahadev, "Shitikantha". This has been translated as Poison-throated one. So,

1. Does that mean that Samudra Mathana happened during Sati's period, not Parvati's?
2. If not, does it refer to that Shiva-Vishnu fight during the Sati-Rahasya track?

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Few generic questions about the show -
1) Has it been asked in any interview of Mohit what was his review /opinion about Devdutt Pattanaik's book "7 secrets of Shiva" on which this show is said to be based on? 

Devdutt's name comes as consultant on the show but it seems that there is much deviation or creative liberty - such as Devdutt quotes that there is no hunger on Kailas whereas Parvati is always shown making food on Kailas. "Outgrowing hunger along with outgrowing animal instinct" which is much stressed out in the book is not much stressed in the show.


2) The whole Shiva & Mohini story seems to be eliminated, but it's understandable as the show is open for ages and all intellects.

3) Shiva becoming Shankara and coming to Kashi is again a repeatedly highlighted theme in Devdutt's book, but in the whole series Shiva is never called as "Shankara" - or am I missing some episodes where it was shown how Parvati transforms Shiva to Shankara? 

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RIP Yogacharya B.K.S. Iyengar, a great follower of Patanjali. It's because of him probably that  today we are able to get the divine knowledge of Shiva about Yoga. I found the episodes on Yoga very crude and also the pronunciation was very poor (esp. of Mohit). I wish they could have created a special Maha Episode just on that one topic, or release it as a spin-off or separate addendum as a DVD like the foreign television shows.

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Posted: 03 September 2014 at 10:10pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Proud-India



Who have seen God's Dwait form in world ? Can it exist ?

Even we are here from Nothing...because all the elements are mainly Energy as per Science & Energy is shapeless ...who we say Adi Shakti in Hinduism

Why Shiva made Universe from him ? And He made Sakar from Nirakar

What i know that we are here from Energy which never exist in shape form but Enegy can create shapes from it & 1 day in the world all will be shapeless again as before Lakes  years
This is something that i too have thought about on countless occasions.. and it is something that had me 100% convinced that Adi Parashakthi is indeed the supreme being,the ultimate god,the Parabrahman from which everything (including gods) originated irrespective of what the various sects in Hinduism teach or would like u to believe..

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