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Posted: 11 April 2013 at 10:07pm | IP Logged
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She's so f*****g infuriating that I want to bang my head

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I agree that Karma IS a b***h and will ultimately bite you in the a**e! W

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OMG! I'm honored! It's my first warning guys. Such a great thing to have accomplished just before end of day. Please join me as I celebrate StarPartyDancing

Sowmya, lol.  The drink's on me,  lassi or masala chai? 

Lassi,if I must. Though I would have preferred popping a bottle of champagne for an occasion of such importance as this. Big smile Thank you for the drink Jhanvi, appreciate it. 

Anyways, all good? Happy New Years to you. I'm not sure if you celebrate ugadi or the Tamil New Years, but you're South Indian right? 

On this festive occasion, no champagne, I will get chappals thrown at meLOL Payasam if you prefer?  Dhidir from a packet though Wink
I am from Tamilnadu, hubby from Karnataka, so we celebrate both.  Happy Ugadi to you too!


Payasam? That too dhidir? Now that wouldn't do at all. I have reputation to keep- I'm a wildling who uses abusive language. That's what I've been honored for and what we're celebrating. Not for talking in baby voices a-la purvi when she probably wants to be coy Evil Smile 

Now that that's settled, I'm Tamil too. Iyer, born n brought up in Hyderabad. So while we celebrate all kinds of New Years, Tamil n Malayalam New Years are more important. Will wish you then if I can get away from my partying where loads of abusive language is going to be used, so I need to brush up my admirable skills in the area. And please don't forget the lassi.

I know kind of dilutes the purpose :( Only salt lassi south indian style with curry leaves and tadaka today.  
I better call it a night on IF and go attend to my house guest before the rest of the family disowns me.  Until tomorrow's dhamaka tamasha party time on PR, goodnight! 

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Just to be technically correct, if you fall in love with a man and find out that he is engaged, and your personal value system does not prod you to leave him alone at all costs, instead you wait patiently for him to slaughter his fiancee, yes the accurate terminology is that you are a man stealer, boyfriend stealer, fiancee stealer, whatever word best suits. 

The fact still remains you are a stealer. Nice girls from nice homes don't do such things.  Also, their Mothers would not encourage such a marriage. 

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Posted: 11 April 2013 at 10:47pm | IP Logged
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Jhanvi,

 
 

 

 
 

.  The last couple of weeks lent some hope that Ovi was moving in this direction but this latest fiasco has set her back again.  I am not sure if this leopard can ever change its spots.  Confused

 


 
Janhvi, I couldnt help myselfLOL, how has Ovi changed back now after I guess she was showing improved behavior???

Kalapi, I was planning on taking a break from PR for the night but I get embroiled again, fascinating that this soap makes us keep coming back for more. 

How has Ovi changed?  She seemed more mature lately, her remarks to Arjun about Purvi and the fact that Ovi has been thinking to herself (a first for Miss. Ovi, retrospection is good for the soul) that Purvi couldn't help herself with Pari, her allowing Purvi to change the baby's clothes, her comments to Savita about motherhood, her calm censure of Arjun when he lied about Purvi's phone call, all showed a maturity and a new secure feeling about herself, she was feeling good about being a mother, about being a wife, sad that it is being ripped away from her.  She was coming into her own finally, I thought.  

In the last two episodes (have not watched today's just read the WU), Ovi seems to have regressed, yesterday's was a tear-jerker for me and while I completely sympathize with the poor girl about her dead baby, her reactions with Soham were a throwback to her old behavior, when she is hurt or spurned, she behaves differently. I hope the CVs who have so far developed her character well don't suddenly botch it up.  I am not talking about her being good or bad, merely the way the character has been portrayed as growing and exhibiting other facets to her personality in accordance with plot changes.  Ovi the character is not a caricature, she has shades of grey as do all human beings, she is not all lily white but brushed with black, those black strokes were fading into a nice restful grey which I was beginning to like and I do not want to be duped on that score.  
 
Janhvi, don't want to keep you in the forum, for I do also know  how late it can get as we spend happy hours here arguing LOL, but again I had to ask Big smile, how could you have ''expected'' her to behave today after knowing the truth about her baby say 30 mins ago??? What should she have said differently to Soham that could have pleased you?/
 
Now since the Mods are dishing out red hot warnings in this thread, I could like to state (which I think you know Janhvi) that this post is genuine, not mocking or bashing SW here...

Kalapi, yes, I do know Smile 

And to answer your question, I don't think her reaction was unwarranted at all or wrong but just more in keeping with the old Ovi than the new one.  You have to remember I have not watched today's epi, just going by the update.  In yesterday's precap, she pushed Soham away, that looked like regression to me.  She is back to feeling alone (the day of Purvi and Arjun's marriage, she looked as forlorn as this) and to distrusting people.  Absolutely natural for her to feel grief but pushing or doubting genuine love and help is not the healthy way to deal with it. 

I am not referring to Ovi's words to Soham or to Archana here, as you point out, she has just been dealt two blows, one that her baby is dead and second that her husband had a baby with his ex-love and however much I might believe she brought the second on herself, she is human and a young, immature girl at that and she is reeling under the shock so her words do not matter much at this point at least. 

Now again, I might be wrong about Ovi regressing, if Ovi wiped her eyes and put on a strong front in front of her family (today's epi), maybe this is the new Ovi because the old Ovi would have cried and screamed in front of all.  I am willing to wait and watch and give her the benefit of the doubt. Like I said, I like light grey. Smile
 
aha, now I understand, so Ovi pushing Soham back and saying, ""I don't believe you and you will hurt me again"" is regression to you. But, I found it very close to reality - Shruti's acting here. I don't know if it was the direction or the actress, but it was real-like. I will tell you why and though I hate to share personal experience in a forum like this I will today...
 
My SIL recently lost her son in a roadside accident. She hasn't still recovered from the shock. In her shocked state she talks with no one, cries on her own and randomly walks. My Inlaws are seriously considering mental treatment, but the GP advised that the mental shock is so great, that accepting and moving on will not happen anytime soon...it will takes years and may not even happen. She hardly talks and if she does, she says "'no one is by my side"" I am alone""...if you see her you could understand how this type of grief is, and no amount of sympathy, can take away the feeling of ''emptiness', a person feels...it leaves one empty - just drained and that feeling doesn't go way..just stays with the person...
 
Yesterday, I made a comment on KC that I could feel Ovi's pain at many level, for I myself had a miscarriage. The baby was only developing, less thae 3 months old. But, when I had that...I couldn't just take it...I never talked with my husband...In fact, I just went about it almost as if nothing has happened. I cried alone, by myself. I just couldn't open up - for I felt he couldn't understand me - he kept on saying we will have another (whcj we did). But, that was no good to me. It look me a month to finally cry on his shoulder, and that too he kinda forced me - and yesterday, again I remembered it all - Now, Ovi's baby was older - I don't know if my reaction was stronger for women do miscarry, but may be cause I wanted that baby so much...who knows...
 
So, if Ovi cries, push someone away...or go numb...well, the enormity of the situation is such only...and everyone reacts different...
 
 
Lastly, all my dear expecting moms, please ignore this post...

Kalapi, so very sorry to hear about your sister in law, that must be beyond horrible, my heart goes out to her.  Poor, poor thing.  Life would become meaningless if the child you gave birth to, looked after, loved and raised left you.  I do not know how any mother could bear the loss of her child, it would literally kill me if anything happened to my kids.  

I can relate to the miscarriage as I had one too, and like you, did go on to have other kids.  That is sad to have been reminded of it all again, but yes, certain incidents trigger old hurts, I see signs at our local church about fetuses being babies and get reminded subconsciously at times. 

No, I am not belittling Ovi's hurt at all, in my prior post I indicated that.  I too thought Shruthi's acting was real, I teared up when Ovi called Soham "dada" and leaned in on him and again when she was talking to Archana at the hospital.  

I think you misunderstood, my post was not about whether Shruthi the actress was believable or if Ovi's behavior was warranted, it was an objective observation that Ovi's reaction will only set her back in terms of her marriage and her new found peace.  I also wrote that it was natural for her to feel grief but the behavior itself was like the old Ovi.  We all revert to our trusted old selves when something of import happens and this is what she did.  If she does revert to her old self, she will be harming herself by making herself more unhappy.  This too happens in real life, my aunt lost her 7 year old son and my uncle became an alcoholic, their marriage was on the rocks till my uncle died even though they stayed together. Not saying he was wrong in the way he reacted, just saying his reaction led to more unhappiness between them.  Same with Ovi, if she takes the hand that is lent to her in sympathy and in love, better for her in the long run.  Of course, in her current state of mind, Ovi the character in PR might not see it that way but the CVs surely can so I hope they will let "their character" progress and that they do not stick her in the same rut of screaming and sulking.  

If the CVs want to explore her world of hurt and portray Ovi's psyche realistically that would be another thing but the show makers do not tend to have the time or inclination to do that so I am afraid they will only relegate Ovi lackadaisically to a caricature like they have done with the rest of their characters.  

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Kalapi sorry to hear about your experiences and those of your loved ones.

You see Ovi is not allowed to grieve because she did the unforgivable, by putting an end to the clandestine moments of Arjun and Purvi. It is the wrath of PR's Creator to bestow such a punishment after hearing the cries and pain of the loved ones for the breaking of a pure bond, a bond that is so pure, that even though one loved more than the other, the pureness can make up for both.  

It is so pure that even physical union out of wedlock is deemed as a true consummation of marriage, that can break all value systems of India and the rest of the Christian world.  

BTW - God rains on the Just and the Unjust. So, even if Purvi is Unjust, the love of God would still bring her good tidings. Not all wrong doers are punished and at the time we want. Purvi's family loving her has nothing to do with her being good.  Murderers have families who love them also, and even stand up for them, when the world is against them.

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Posted: 11 April 2013 at 10:59pm | IP Logged
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Just to be technically correct, if you fall in love with a man and find out that he is engaged, and your personal value system does not prod you to leave him alone at all costs, instead you wait patiently for him to slaughter his fiancee, yes the accurate terminology is that you are a man stealer, boyfriend stealer, fiancee stealer, whatever word best suits. 

The fact still remains you are a stealer. Nice girls from nice homes don't do such things.  Also, their Mothers would not encourage such a marriage. 


Ah, you see I was careful, LOLI did not say man stealer, boyfriend stealer, or fiance stealer, I said "husband stealer, gold-digger, mother stealer and baby stealer" and Purvi is none of these.  Wink

Your definition makes Ovi a stealer too, she stole Arjun right back.  At least Arjun was not engaged to Ovi when Purvi and him fell in love with each other and Purvi knew Arjun did not want Ovi. Purvi did stay away from Arjun after the engagement, he declared his love for her to Manav in front of the D clan, broke off his rishta and relentlessly pursued her in the chawl.  

But Ovi has no such excuse, she knew Arjun was engaged to Purvi, she knew he loved Purvi and yet went right ahead to steal him.  

Good girls don't do that either, mothers don't encourage or approve of putting valued relationships at stake, bartering your dad's happiness (I will refrain from saying mother's happiness in deference to those who have said Archana did not raise Ovi so there was no love lost between them) because you are blinded by your own selfish need to acquire your sister's soon to be husband. 


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Just to be technically correct, if you fall in love with a man and find out that he is engaged, and your personal value system does not prod you to leave him alone at all costs, instead you wait patiently for him to slaughter his fiancee, yes the accurate terminology is that you are a man stealer, boyfriend stealer, fiancee stealer, whatever word best suits. 

The fact still remains you are a stealer. Nice girls from nice homes don't do such things.  Also, their Mothers would not encourage such a marriage. 


Ah, you see I was careful, LOLI did not say man stealer, boyfriend stealer, or fiance stealer, I said "husband stealer, gold-digger, mother stealer and baby stealer" and Purvi is none of these.  Wink

Your definition makes Ovi a stealer too, she stole Arjun right back.  At least Arjun was not engaged to Ovi when Purvi and him fell in love with each other and Purvi knew Arjun did not want Ovi. Purvi did stay away from Arjun after the engagement, he declared his love for her to Manav in front of the D, broke off his rishta and relentlessly pursued her in the chawl.  

But Ovi has no such excuse, she knew Arjun was engaged to Purvi, she knew he loved Purvi and yet went right ahead to steal him.  

Good girls don't do that either, mothers don't encourage or approve of putting valued relationships at stake, bartering your dad's happiness (I will refrain from saying mother's happiness in deference to those who have said Archana did not raise Ovi so there was no love lost between them) because you are blinded by your own selfish need to acquire your sister's soon to be husband. 
You can't steal something that was already yours, love or no love they were engaged before he fell in love with PurviWink Husband stealer is not far off either, because Purvi never made herself that unavailable in Arjun's sight..She never practised to mind her own business.Wink Indirectly she is a Mother Stealer, to someone who is hurt that their Mother did not find for her and chose to raise another babyBig smile  Baby Stealer is kinda weird, but it is probably coming from the fact that she breast fed Pari, it would not be my choice of words though, more like Deceiver Wink

Ovi had Arjun first, and I am  disappointed that you are ignoring your Indian Sanskaars to make your point.  

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It was not an unprovoked barter, it was a final attempt at salvaging the biggest disrespect anyone woman could face.  Yes, it was in turn giving Arjun precedence over her self worth.  However, it was fair under the circumstances when everyone including her Father pushed her feelings aside for the sake of Purvi's happiness, just like they did when Purvi's supposedly died and Ovi's own was supposed to be alive.

Another thing, Purvi's announcement that her baby died, is the lowest anyone could ever go to keep a secret, to claim your baby dead.  She could have offered Pari, after Ovi finished grieving.

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Just to be technically correct, if you fall in love with a man and find out that he is engaged, and your personal value system does not prod you to leave him alone at all costs, instead you wait patiently for him to slaughter his fiancee, yes the accurate terminology is that you are a man stealer, boyfriend stealer, fiancee stealer, whatever word best suits. 

The fact still remains you are a stealer. Nice girls from nice homes don't do such things.  Also, their Mothers would not encourage such a marriage. 


Ah, you see I was careful, LOLI did not say man stealer, boyfriend stealer, or fiance stealer, I said "husband stealer, gold-digger, mother stealer and baby stealer" and Purvi is none of these.  Wink

Your definition makes Ovi a stealer too, she stole Arjun right back.  At least Arjun was not engaged to Ovi when Purvi and him fell in love with each other and Purvi knew Arjun did not want Ovi. Purvi did stay away from Arjun after the engagement, he declared his love for her to Manav in front of the D, broke off his rishta and relentlessly pursued her in the chawl.  

But Ovi has no such excuse, she knew Arjun was engaged to Purvi, she knew he loved Purvi and yet went right ahead to steal him.  

Good girls don't do that either, mothers don't encourage or approve of putting valued relationships at stake, bartering your dad's happiness (I will refrain from saying mother's happiness in deference to those who have said Archana did not raise Ovi so there was no love lost between them) because you are blinded by your own selfish need to acquire your sister's soon to be husband. 
You can't steal something that was already yours, love or no love they were engaged before he fell in love with PurviWink Husband stealer is not far off either, because Purvi never made herself that unavailable in Arjun's sight..She never practised to mind her own business.Wink Indirectly she is a Mother Stealer, to someone who is hurt that their Mother did not find for her and chose to raise another babyBig smile  Baby Stealer is kinda weird, but it is probably coming from the fact that she breast fed Pari, it would not be my choice of words though, more like Deceiver Wink

Ovi had Arjun first, and I am  disappointed that you are ignoring your Indian Sanskaars to make your point.  

I just can't believe you are blaming Purvi for this. Dead

You all like talking that Arjun is some toy. I had it 1st so he should be mine. What logic.

From where I come from falling in love and breaking of engagement is not a sin and people get over worse things.

Ovi's state of mind is fragile thanks to her father, sister and grand mother made her thinking that world is at her feet take what ever you want and forget the concequences.

Puri is a biggest fool I have ever come across no one does all the things she did. 

Arjun was a bigger fool to love Purvi and marry Ovi. No man does this.

In Ekta Kapoor land men are sissies and dont behave like actual man.

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