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Posted: 10 April 2013 at 12:31pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by pari87

Originally posted by rayadallie


@ bold Purvi and arjun shared a relationship before arjun and ovi's marriage. A child is the result of that relationship. Are you saying that arjun should cut off all communication with purvi about that part of their lives? In the real world things like this dont happen. A man and a woman that shares a child do communicate no matter what.  Their wife/husband is aware of this and hence should also be aware that they just cannot ignore each other.  Not everytime the man reaches the woman he has to get permission from his wife to speak to the woman who bore a child for him or have to verbatim what they discuss when they met. A marriage is based on trust first and foremost and if arjun's wife cannot trust him, then she will forever be unhappy.

@red Can you really explain to me what arjun should have done to show that he mourns the lost of his child with ovi. should he have cried and sulk like ovi to prove this?LOL


Dear raydallie, 

Unfortunately, I am not as evolved to keep arguing with your logic at hand...Your objectivity I do not understand and it is best if I don't bother explaining mine.. A man who kisses his other daughter after finding out that she is actually his favorite lover's beti, and then does not even spare a thought for the dead child he had with his wife, is not objective in my head at all. But like I said, your objectivity is really a mystery to me on this. So go ahead and defend Arjun-Purvi for all their worth, I don't care. Trust comes if husband gives it too. Arjun does nothing that would inspire trust, but maybe like I said, your objectivity is so sharp that his love for Purvi and clandestine meetings should all be considered trustworthy. I am not evolved in this case. So spare me.

When a person loses a child, they do sit sulk and mourn, Maybe in your world it is different. Maybe a dead child should be just left off and no body should sit and even think about her/him cuz hey, should he just sit and sulk cuz he lost candy? Oh no, he lost a baby? Same thing. 

your smiley for a dead child's mournign explains your thinking. I cannot argue with that. Peace out.


[/QUOTE]I am sorry Pari, I did not know that you took things so personal. I merely discussing the serial. I am not discussing anything real life and I take offense to what you wrote @bold

Just to make my point, not everyone mourn in the same manner. Everyone mourns differently. I see arjun kissing pari to mean that he is grateful to at least have her alive. It does not mean that he does not care for the child that is dead. But it all depends on how you look at the glass - half empty or half full.

Once again sorry if you feel hurt by my comments. I never expected for you to get all emotional over it as its just a serial we are discussing and that your arguments i find interesting since you look at the cup one way while i look at it the other.Unhappy


Edited by rayadallie - 10 April 2013 at 12:34pm

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Posted: 10 April 2013 at 12:35pm | IP Logged
That is true! I don't mean to hate on Arjun, but he was more worried about the injustices Purvi was suffering. I don't remember him shedding tears for the baby. I could be wrong though. I only read the updates.

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Posted: 10 April 2013 at 12:40pm | IP Logged
I guess purvi should mean nothing to arjun. The woman who bore a child for him out of wedlock and bring it into this world and give it to him and ovi be it knowingly or unknowingly, he should just show no care for her and what she went thru but sit down and cry and sulk to prove that he is sorry for the miscarriage that ovi got. smh

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Posted: 10 April 2013 at 12:40pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by rayadallie

Originally posted by pari87

Originally posted by rayadallie


@ bold Purvi and arjun shared a relationship before arjun and ovi's marriage. A child is the result of that relationship. Are you saying that arjun should cut off all communication with purvi about that part of their lives? In the real world things like this dont happen. A man and a woman that shares a child do communicate no matter what.  Their wife/husband is aware of this and hence should also be aware that they just cannot ignore each other.  Not everytime the man reaches the woman he has to get permission from his wife to speak to the woman who bore a child for him or have to verbatim what they discuss when they met. A marriage is based on trust first and foremost and if arjun's wife cannot trust him, then she will forever be unhappy.

@red Can you really explain to me what arjun should have done to show that he mourns the lost of his child with ovi. should he have cried and sulk like ovi to prove this?LOL


Dear raydallie, 

Unfortunately, I am not as evolved to keep arguing with your logic at hand...Your objectivity I do not understand and it is best if I don't bother explaining mine.. A man who kisses his other daughter after finding out that she is actually his favorite lover's beti, and then does not even spare a thought for the dead child he had with his wife, is not objective in my head at all. But like I said, your objectivity is really a mystery to me on this. So go ahead and defend Arjun-Purvi for all their worth, I don't care. Trust comes if husband gives it too. Arjun does nothing that would inspire trust, but maybe like I said, your objectivity is so sharp that his love for Purvi and clandestine meetings should all be considered trustworthy. I am not evolved in this case. So spare me.

When a person loses a child, they do sit sulk and mourn, Maybe in your world it is different. Maybe a dead child should be just left off and no body should sit and even think about her/him cuz hey, should he just sit and sulk cuz he lost candy? Oh no, he lost a baby? Same thing. 

your smiley for a dead child's mournign explains your thinking. I cannot argue with that. Peace out.


I am sorry Pari, I did not know that you took things so personal. I merely discussing the serial. I am not discussing anything real life and I take offense to what you wrote @bold

Just to make my point, not everyone mourn in the same manner. Everyone mourns differently. I see arjun kissing pari to mean that he is grateful to at least have her alive. It does not mean that he does not care for the child that is dead. But it all depends on how you look at the glass - half empty or half full.

Once again sorry if you feel hurt by my comments. I never expected for you to get all emotional over it as its just a serial we are discussing and that your arguments i find interesting since you look at the cup one way while i look at it the other.Unhappy
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Rayadallie,

To be honest, a dead baby is emotional for many reasons and I abhor the fact that even when they show it in a show, it is so pathetic and reckless and distasteful. I do not find a father who is happy for at least one child, when other is dead. that is not a good father, much less a good human being. Arjun exists only and only for Purvi, not even Pari or his own father. She is the end all for him and that is fine. But then he needs to step out of his marriage, and not make babies with anybody. He should simply build a temple for Purvi and become a poojari there. That;s all he can do best. 

I like debating but I cannot fight hate for a character that is so deep that death is wished upon and even when an actress does a fabulous job, or the character is struggling with the worst pain, people laugh and make fun of death. I find that distasteful and the show is fictional but the people saying all these nasty and hateful things are real on this forum and this is what is disturbing. I am not talking about you, because you simply justify characters, but I am talking about a tno of other people who clearly have the smalles narrowest thinking I have come across. Characters or no charactes, when somebody voices an opinion, it says a lot about them as a person too. 

Dead babies, miscarriages and cheating is no joke in my dictionary. I would not wish that upon Purvi or Rasika even. 
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Posted: 10 April 2013 at 12:47pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by rayadallie

I guess purvi should mean nothing to arjun. The woman who bore a child for him out of wedlock and bring it into this world and give it to him and ovi be it knowingly or unknowingly, he should just show no care for her and what she went thru but sit down and cry and sulk to prove that he is sorry for the miscarriage that ovi got. smh
no one is saying that,but a women who is his wife who was also pregnant just for arjun and his excepatnce cant or shld nt b ignored.
sit down and sulk?atleast acknowledge his dead baby,atleast tlk or worried that he cldnt perform last rituals of the baby.
is this more to ask from a father?
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Posted: 10 April 2013 at 11:50pm | IP Logged
i think cvs r planning for other drama in PR...as ovi is pregger with other man n arjun might knowing dis so he dont have any concern of ovi lost babyROFL

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Posted: 11 April 2013 at 12:27am | IP Logged
Dear Pari, just wanted to point out one thing, there has been no clandestine meeting between Arjun and Purvi since his wedding, other than that, enjoyed reading your impassioned posts in support for Ovi. I agree cheating, baby deaths, infidelity are all serious and ugly business but the soaps make them sound so trivial.

Also to give Arjun his dues, he loved Pari just as much before as after he found out who the mother was. His kissing the baby after finding out the truth I see as remorse, repentance for not having known of her (Pari's) existence until then, and for not having spared a fleeting thought to the consequences of that night.


Edited by soapwatcher1 - 11 April 2013 at 12:47am

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Posted: 11 April 2013 at 12:32am | IP Logged
lets see aage kya hota h

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