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Posted: 10 April 2013 at 3:00am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Yukthi.

Yes..you'll did read it right.
I Just dont get what you people want..and i hope you'll know WHICH people i am talking about LOL
why dont you'll just accept that you'll dont WANT to accept rk? whether he turns good or bad..YOU'LL want madhu's supposed knight in armour will always be that gangster?
if rk takes madhu to his house forcibly..they say it is not out of love but out of jealousy..so he shudnt be doing it! ( SERIOUSLY? ) Shocked
AND like in yesterdays episode..rk was all romantic Embarrassed you could see the love oozing out from every pore of him for his biwi.i thank god that the contract hasnt come up..and i doubt it will Big smile
 First, no, I don't like Sultan either. I did not support Sultan taking Madhu at gun-point, I hate how CVs can't give Madhu a break. As for RK, I'm all for Rishabala BUT - he hasn't apologized, he hasn't redeemed himself, all he has done is treat Madhu like property and forcibly taken her AGAINST HER WILL.
well well well before you'll bombard me with baseless arguments on the contract..i would like to say that the contract WONT come up..as RK wants his biwi forever..and i mean FOREVER...and not as long as the contract lasts. what if madhu does repay the 40 lacs one day? you think he would let her go?! i mean..he's not an imbecile for  god's sake! Shocked
And that is what I hate about RK, it's always about himself and what he wants. He wants to torture Madhu he gets to throw her out, he wants her back in his house he gets to drag her in. Wonderful.
well anyways..even when rk is trying to get mb back into his life with love and passion as a hubby...na na no need to rub and strain your poor eyes so much..you read that right..AS A HUBBY...they have a problem Angry ( DOUBLE SERIOUSLY ! Shocked Shocked ) 
and their excuse now is that she ISNT even his wife?! Dead
how do you know? did you get them divorced?
So the marriage is valid when RK thinks it is and when he thinks not he can thrown her out and humiliate her in front of the whole chawl,right? Yes, they are married because they are not properly divorced and I was one of the earliest people on this forum to point out that even if a marriage can take place in a temple with only 2 people, for a separation there has to be a legal divorce and for that to be legal  the court has to be involved. But the thing is, just because RK is her husband, he doesn't get to force her home against her wishes. Even if she is his wife she has rights to her private phone calls and her private decisions. CVs showing Rishabala is not the problem. The way the CVs are doing it is.
who are they kidding? not me for sure! ROFL
 rk gets close to his WIFE..he's a rapist..but SULTAN.. a stranger..a gangster..tries that..it is brushed off under the pretense of loneliness and heartbreak?!
nice jokes people crack nowadays! ROFL
Sexual harassment constitutes in unwanted sexual advancement towards someone. Whether that person is a spouse or a stranger is immaterial. Whether that person is as handsome as VD or ugly as hell is immaterial. Whether the person is lonely or junooni is immaterial. What matters is -Does the other person(in this case, Madhu) want it? If not, then that is Harassment.
 
what i am saying here is..try to look at the situation with an open mind..and try to accept that you'll dont have a problem with rk's antics..you'll have a problem with rk himself!
 
thats y..if he is being good or bad..loving or torturous..you'll find faults and excuses and start BBBing him and his fans.
 
If you actually looked through what some of us are saying with an open mind- many of us are heart-broken by the way RK's character is turning out. Many of us wanted Rishabala, many of us do not want Sulbala, many of us still want RK to redeem himself, none of us had any problem with the RK who was pretending to be a good, caring guy the last time around. And all of us love the VD-DD chemistry. And if you go beyond your prejudice of treating anyone who criticizes RK as nasty evil Sulbala conspirators, you'll see that our problem is not Rishabala happening but the way it is happening in this current track and the amount of abusive behaviour RK seems to be getting away with just because once upon a time his mother remarried and his girlfriend dumped him. We hate the kind of message this show is giving out- that is okay for the guy to treat the girl as property and do whatever the hell he likes with her but she will always be back with as soon as he bends a finger.
PS - this post is my purely POV..and i didnt make these efforts only for it to be destroyed by terrorist attacks by the others! Stern Smile
 
this topic is for a healthy discussion on WHY exactly you'll hate rk..i mean..the guy was loving yesterday and you'll call him a rapist for getting close to his own WIFE?!! Shocked Wacko 
 
you'll are free to have a HEALTHY discussion..note the word stressed on here LOL
and PUH-LEEZZ for peat's sake SPARE me the regular crap that she isnt his wife anymore and the traditions and purity of a wedding in indian community. [ MAJOR YAWN! Sleepy ]
 
neither are you getting married here nor me or anyone else..so spare us the details of a proper wedding! Stern Smile
This is my point of view too, and I took time to reason out every single thing you said, I don't think this constitutes as a terrorist attack.
 

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Posted: 10 April 2013 at 3:05am | IP Logged
Originally posted by M.Hurr

we cannot just make up our minds what is right is right and what is wrong is wrong, whether someone likes it or not.

opinion changes with the change in the tracks and characters its quite natural if you like a character and than begin to dislike because of certain reasons if you are fan than its your right to both appreciate and criticize no one is bound by any rules or to give explanation to others,'m indeed appalled by RK's actions but who knows what cvs have planned what if they change RK's character into an entirely positive one or highly negative.

You like RK's actions and what he's currently doing and you dont find anything wrong than its your POV and I respect that and I believe you should do the same why bounding people to make up their minds,we all are ardent viewers and fans of the show and we have our different views about characters negative and positive both.

Mallu
i respect your post and your opinion greatly mallu.
and believe me..i am not a fan of all this.
we keep getting hate pm's from a few SULbala fans on why we like rk..and they abuse rk and vd and us constantly..so is it my fault that i want them to decide?
 
and as for different pov's...we all are seeing diffferent things in the current tack..and the cv's will clear the chaos one day..and the truth will come out then.
 
i am supporting rk's actions as i see it as his guilt and love and redemtion..rest is history!!
 
and we rishbala/rk/vd fans never come into any of your posts to bash you'll..we  try to avoid i the best..then y is every post of ours spoiled by sulbala fans bashing us and FORCIBLY telling us that rk and madhu arent married? they dont spare us even when we ignore them..and then further torture us wih pm's
 
and i am NOT forcing anyone to make a decision..i want an explanation on y they are not happy with rk
one day you'll say he is forcing her and we want him to take her back with love..omly THEN you''ll will accept him..FINE..ok you'll do have a point...
BUT the next day when he does the EXACT same thing..you'll say its not true love?
why is that? doesnt this prove that the problem is not with rk's actions but him itself??
 
this is the punchline 
 


Edited by Yukthi. - 10 April 2013 at 3:14am

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Posted: 10 April 2013 at 3:10am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Nishi.Singh

if u doing it for urself then fine...otherwise no need...few forum ppl cant put RK or VD down, no matter how much they try LOL...poor them LOL
DUKHI ppl will keep talking and they live in delusional world that anyone cares for their dukhda...LOL


"...few forum ppl cant put RK or VD down, no matter how much they try "

Point 1- please differentiate between Dsena the actor and RK the character. We are not running a syndicate here to bring down television actors- we've got better things to do anyway. Our problem is with how RK treats Madhu as his property.

"DUKHI ppl will keep talking and they live in delusional world that anyone cares for their dukhda.."

Point-2- exactly why are you talking about our personal lives? We are talking about the message the CVs are giving out- that it is okay for a man to treat his wife as property to thrown and picked as his will, that he need not apologize and redeem himself no matter how badly he has behaved, that he can decide who his wife meets and talk to and whatever he does, the wife must go back to him! We care about this because many of as girls feel disgusted with this depiction. We care because this is a family show and media hugely influences people's behaviour in society. How does that make us living in a delusional world?

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Posted: 10 April 2013 at 3:11am | IP Logged
Originally posted by nobodyatnotime

Originally posted by Yukthi.

Yes..you'll did read it right.
I Just dont get what you people want..and i hope you'll know WHICH people i am talking about LOL
why dont you'll just accept that you'll dont WANT to accept rk? whether he turns good or bad..YOU'LL want madhu's supposed knight in armour will always be that gangster?
if rk takes madhu to his house forcibly..they say it is not out of love but out of jealousy..so he shudnt be doing it! ( SERIOUSLY? ) Shocked
AND like in yesterdays episode..rk was all romantic Embarrassed you could see the love oozing out from every pore of him for his biwi.i thank god that the contract hasnt come up..and i doubt it will Big smile
 First, no, I don't like Sultan either. I did not support Sultan taking Madhu at gun-point, I hate how CVs can't give Madhu a break. As for RK, I'm all for Rishabala BUT - he hasn't apologized, he hasn't redeemed himself, all he has done is treat Madhu like property and forcibly taken her AGAINST HER WILL.
well well well before you'll bombard me with baseless arguments on the contract..i would like to say that the contract WONT come up..as RK wants his biwi forever..and i mean FOREVER...and not as long as the contract lasts. what if madhu does repay the 40 lacs one day? you think he would let her go?! i mean..he's not an imbecile for  god's sake! Shocked
And that is what I hate about RK, it's always about himself and what he wants. He wants to torture Madhu he gets to throw her out, he wants her back in his house he gets to drag her in. Wonderful.
well anyways..even when rk is trying to get mb back into his life with love and passion as a hubby...na na no need to rub and strain your poor eyes so much..you read that right..AS A HUBBY...they have a problem Angry ( DOUBLE SERIOUSLY ! Shocked Shocked ) 
and their excuse now is that she ISNT even his wife?! Dead
how do you know? did you get them divorced?
So the marriage is valid when RK thinks it is and when he thinks not he can thrown her out and humiliate her in front of the whole chawl,right? Yes, they are married because they are not properly divorced and I was one of the earliest people on this forum to point out that even if a marriage can take place in a temple with only 2 people, for a separation there has to be a legal divorce and for that to be legal  the court has to be involved. But the thing is, just because RK is her husband, he doesn't get to force her home against her wishes. Even if she is his wife she has rights to her private phone calls and her private decisions. CVs showing Rishabala is not the problem. The way the CVs are doing it is.
who are they kidding? not me for sure! ROFL
 rk gets close to his WIFE..he's a rapist..but SULTAN.. a stranger..a gangster..tries that..it is brushed off under the pretense of loneliness and heartbreak?!
nice jokes people crack nowadays! ROFL
Sexual harassment constitutes in unwanted sexual advancement towards someone. Whether that person is a spouse or a stranger is immaterial. Whether that person is as handsome as VD or ugly as hell is immaterial. Whether the person is lonely or junooni is immaterial. What matters is -Does the other person(in this case, Madhu) want it? If not, then that is Harassment.
 
what i am saying here is..try to look at the situation with an open mind..and try to accept that you'll dont have a problem with rk's antics..you'll have a problem with rk himself!
 
thats y..if he is being good or bad..loving or torturous..you'll find faults and excuses and start BBBing him and his fans.
 
If you actually looked through what some of us are saying with an open mind- many of us are heart-broken by the way RK's character is turning out. Many of us wanted Rishabala, many of us do not want Sulbala, many of us still want RK to redeem himself, none of us had any problem with the RK who was pretending to be a good, caring guy the last time around. And all of us love the VD-DD chemistry. And if you go beyond your prejudice of treating anyone who criticizes RK as nasty evil Sulbala conspirators, you'll see that our problem is not Rishabala happening but the way it is happening in this current track and the amount of abusive behaviour RK seems to be getting away with just because once upon a time his mother remarried and his girlfriend dumped him. We hate the kind of message this show is giving out- that is okay for the guy to treat the girl as property and do whatever the hell he likes with her but she will always be back with as soon as he bends a finger.
PS - this post is my purely POV..and i didnt make these efforts only for it to be destroyed by terrorist attacks by the others! Stern Smile
 
this topic is for a healthy discussion on WHY exactly you'll hate rk..i mean..the guy was loving yesterday and you'll call him a rapist for getting close to his own WIFE?!! Shocked Wacko 
 
you'll are free to have a HEALTHY discussion..note the word stressed on here LOL
and PUH-LEEZZ for peat's sake SPARE me the regular crap that she isnt his wife anymore and the traditions and purity of a wedding in indian community. [ MAJOR YAWN! Sleepy ]
 
neither are you getting married here nor me or anyone else..so spare us the details of a proper wedding! Stern Smile
This is my point of view too, and I took time to reason out every single thing you said, I don't think this constitutes as a terrorist attack.
 
yours is one of the best and most mature post so far Clap
as far as sexual harassment goes..where the hell did that drop from?? Shocked
and sure madhu doesnt approve of rk touchingher now..but thats because she is angry..when she calms down and sees that he is trying at redemption...she will surely accept him and love will bloom. which wife WOULDNT want her husband to come close to her? they love each other..whether anyone accepts or not
 
that is why madhu accepted rk again..and they are going to live as a couple again
 
and mind mind..dont tell me that rk FORCED her completely..as rk did cut his hand sure..but both knew that he wont go further than that..so it was upto madhu after that if she wants to accept him..which she did! Big smile
 
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Posted: 10 April 2013 at 3:13am | IP Logged
Originally posted by nobodyatnotime

Originally posted by Nishi.Singh

if u doing it for urself then fine...otherwise no need...few forum ppl cant put RK or VD down, no matter how much they try LOL...poor them LOL
DUKHI ppl will keep talking and they live in delusional world that anyone cares for their dukhda...LOL


"...few forum ppl cant put RK or VD down, no matter how much they try "

Point 1- please differentiate between Dsena the actor and RK the character. We are not running a syndicate here to bring down television actors- we've got better things to do anyway. Our problem is with how RK treats Madhu as his property.

"DUKHI ppl will keep talking and they live in delusional world that anyone cares for their dukhda.."

Point-2- exactly why are you talking about our personal lives? We are talking about the message the CVs are giving out- that it is okay for a man to treat his wife as property to thrown and picked as his will, that he need not apologize and redeem himself no matter how badly he has behaved, that he can decide who his wife meets and talk to and whatever he does, the wife must go back to him! We care about this because many of as girls feel disgusted with this depiction. We care because this is a family show and media hugely influences people's behaviour in society. How does that make us living in a delusional world?
i am sorry dear..but that is what is happening.
people hate rk here because of VIVIAN..for some unfathomable reason.
it is a fact that many hate vd here..and hence rk too.
 
my advice - please know the complete truth and then post..it will save us the chaos
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Posted: 10 April 2013 at 3:16am | IP Logged
Originally posted by nobodyatnotime

Originally posted by Nishi.Singh

if u doing it for urself then fine...otherwise no need...few forum ppl cant put RK or VD down, no matter how much they try LOL...poor them LOL
DUKHI ppl will keep talking and they live in delusional world that anyone cares for their dukhda...LOL


"...few forum ppl cant put RK or VD down, no matter how much they try "

Point 1- please differentiate between Dsena the actor and RK the character. We are not running a syndicate here to bring down television actors- we've got better things to do anyway. Our problem is with how RK treats Madhu as his property.

"DUKHI ppl will keep talking and they live in delusional world that anyone cares for their dukhda.."

Point-2- exactly why are you talking about our personal lives? We are talking about the message the CVs are giving out- that it is okay for a man to treat his wife as property to thrown and picked as his will, that he need not apologize and redeem himself no matter how badly he has behaved, that he can decide who his wife meets and talk to and whatever he does, the wife must go back to him! We care about this because many of as girls feel disgusted with this depiction. We care because this is a family show and media hugely influences people's behaviour in society. How does that make us living in a delusional world?

Not only does that comment talks about personal life but it's also taking a dig on personal front. Who cares? Yeah RIGHT! Sleepy


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Posted: 10 April 2013 at 3:19am | IP Logged
Agree with you each and every word!!
If RK tries to get close to his own BIWI he is a rapist
And if Sultan does that with a MARRIED WOMAN!! then"Ohh he is droolicious" "He has a heart of Gold"
To me it's Heart painted with golden colourLOLLOLLOL
 
People explain about Sanity, Purity etc etcSleepy
Let me tell them Going close to a married Woman is not sanity...
And a HUBBY has a right to go close with her dear WIFEY
 
And I also think even If Madhu repays 40 lacs RK will leave her...

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Posted: 10 April 2013 at 3:21am | IP Logged
Originally posted by ..Khushi..

Originally posted by Yukthi.

* DEEP SIGH *
finally..lets do this calmly
 
see..thats what i wanted you'll to admit all this while..y you hate rk and cant accept him .
the day you'll made that "SULBALA" itself it was clear that you'll didnt want rk...so it was like drilling sense in a corpse if we make you'll undersatnd that sultan's major role in this show is rk's redemption and get rishbala closer..which he has successfully done! Big smile
 
i wanted you'll to ACCEPT THAT YOU'LL DONT WANT RK..without any crap fake wedding reasons that is...rather than make cheap accusations and call him a rapist and murderer and us female fans of rk a shame on womankind..yes you read that right...sulbala fans have called female rk/rishbala fans a shame on womankind. who the hell gave them rights to do that? Angry
 
 
rk isnt forcing himself on madhu..thats his junoon..his obssessiveness...his possessiveness for her that he is doing that to get her back.
 he was always like hat from the start
 
rk was always different..hence even his way of redemption is different.
 
he is human after all..he can make mistakes..and he has realized his too.
 
every person makes mistakes...they should be given atleast ONE chance to redemption..if he repeats it again then i will SURELY not tolerate it!
as the sayings go...
it is human to err..
and hate the sin..NOT the sinner!
 

Ermm..no!! I never 'made' Sulbala & their relationship status is least of my concern.

Coming on to RK, he can be crazy, obsessive and all that, I am not interested in knowing what is RK like, why he is so and what pushed him to become like that. All I know is he's a creep and should stay far away from Madhu's life. RK is like that from beginning and that's why right from the beginning I haven't liked his character nor do I find his 'RK antics' hawt or 'unique.' Talking about the 'fake wedding' so for a wedding to be 'fake' there needs to be a wedding and I don't remember seeing one (legal or traditional).

Redemption? Yeah RK can work towards redeeming himself whenever he feels like and can hope to get a second chance, just not with Madhu, there should be a limit to how much she suffers for the bad deed she did and that limit is not her lifetime.
 
WHY nOT WITH MADHU? she is his wife...an dont get to that argument about unwedding..puhleez! SleepySleepy
madhu ke paas redemption ke liye nahi jaayega..to kya bittuji ke paas jaayega? or near the help hands in his mansion?
 
and see...rk and madhu thst is vivian AND drashti are the ones who run this show on their shoulders..neither can it run only on madhu..or only on rk
 
so please..quit the whining
 
and if you want the show without rk...the doors are always open just for you.
and if you are not getting the purpose of this topic too..and are unable to understand that i DONT WANT FIGGHTS HERE...then the doors for this post too are wide open just for you!
 
thank you khushi.
enjoyed our debate!
SAYONARA dear!
and apne alvida ka izzat rakhne khushi! LOL

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