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Episode 239 Discussion: 6th April 2013 (Page 6)

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Posted: 06 April 2013 at 11:57am | IP Logged
Originally posted by zoya_naziya


@Zoe: Re. RK realization thro' Dipzy:: No one can be as caustic and spicy as Dipzy... It hopefully should be a hit in the gut for him... Am hoping it would enable him to connect with Madhu's pain... It is very important for him to understand her pain...


Sometimes a Kameena needs to be spoken to in his OWN language...and Dips can do a good job of that...to give him that hit on the head he badly needs...tell him in a language he UNDERSTANDS...the other characters can't do that...with Madhu there is too much baggage for him to listenLOL


I wouldn't read too much into RK not thinking much about the shoot-out...I think that aspect is being brushed aside in the story...they are trying to bring the focus back to RK-Madhu sorting out their issues for now.

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Posted: 06 April 2013 at 11:57am | IP Logged
Originally posted by river123

Originally posted by zoya_naziya

Ok... I liked the RK-Madhu scene and it was such a joy to watch a terrified RK... 
But I was left disappointed by the fact that, RK learns of a shoot-out and he comes to just check on her... He didn't try finding the details-how,what,why, etc... They are treating as if shoot-out at a chawl is a mamooli thing and he came to check on her, akin to someone visiting a patient when told they are ill... 

Which makes me wonder, at what stage is RK going to connect the dots and get the entire Sultan gangster story?  

Probably when he will be raising Aryan with Madhu, then only he'll come to know Sultan is a gangster! LOL

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Posted: 06 April 2013 at 11:59am | IP Logged
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Originally posted by _charu_


we dun know their history & their betrayals but therez something b/w RK and Dips which is alive and kicking, which is disturbing Ouch She's the only one person with whom RK opens up and she understands him very well...in this prem game and revenge track, she was the only one who judged RK correctly LOL



LOL it disturbs you? But why? I quite like their equation...it doesn't bother me...yes there's a history there and that is why she understands him in some ways...I think she is used very well by the writers to make RK realize some things that he wouldn't listen to from Bittooji or Radhaji.

There IS a DARKNESS in his soul that Dips without really intending to makes him aware of and that is NEEDED.

The best thing about Dips is how her every chaal goes opposite of her intentionsLOL...She thinks she knows RK enough to steer him in a certain direction but the opposite ends up happeningLOL

I wouldn't say RK really OPENS up to her...but he does ACKNOWLEDGE their past...cuz that is the only thing they have in common...and through that aspect, he puts her in her place many times too...

I think Dips knows an ASPECT of RK that is still inside him and she tries to invoke that...but he's moved on from that aspect in many ways too that is why Madhu knows him better now.
AY, just like  Charu I don't like Dips and RK's closeness, but as you pointed out she is being used a prop to bring out the dark side of RK. I understand that they shared a past and a relationship thathad altering effects on RK's personality to some degree.  Maybe that is why she keeps on popping on screen when RK is trying to make sense of his actions.

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Posted: 06 April 2013 at 12:03pm | IP Logged
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That precap. Well, some people had asked what makes RK and Dipai different when the revenge drama was carried out. Now we will find out RK ki zubbani.
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I dont think he will be able to answer back with this super dialogues this time, i don't think he will be able to defend himself, even if he did Dipali will be the one talking and he will be the one listening..poor RK, but this comment by Dipali was a must if RK is to realize how much he hurt Madhu

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Posted: 06 April 2013 at 12:05pm | IP Logged
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.Felt for her...when again she was rejected by teh confused.com...Arghhh RK...you assert everything..and yet cant bring yourself to admit it...Did he really REJECT her, Srush? He looked rather like a frightened deer who FLEED the sceneLOL...He didn't reject HER...He didn't have the GUTS to say ANYTHING...lol...just mumbled "Nahin" and ran offLOL...I don't think Madhu took it as a rejection of HER as much as frustrated with his inability to admit the truth to himself Anu...another forum for usLOL we seem to be the forum bhootnis...wandering for some solaceLOL on your blue portion highlights...Oh it definitely felt to me that she was feeling rejected all over again...because even though she wont admit it to herself, the holi day had instilled some hope in her that he wanted her back...or he had some feelings...so she again lay herself open and asked for answers...which she thought he would give ...but again he loosened his collar and like mumbled nahi...and went away...it was like he wanted her to be completely dedicated and lovelorn for him...but he wont make any commitments...See her expressions turning into anger and disgust at herself for again laying herself open to humiliation and rejection...
 

.he might have called himself the Kameena..but in his eyes, he was the ultimate hero...the hero who inspite of having grey shades could never jilt someone..for him, leaving Madhu was only the part of his grand plan, and a tit for tat..he showed her...that was the only thing he might have blamed himself for...her hurt, welll he considers them even...because in a way she hurts him a lot too...for him he is just balancing the two...he never sees himself as the grand betrayer...and so when Madhu says she has moves on, and he suspects her of seeing someone, he consders it to be the betrayal...and hence his rant to his mother about how he considers the first rang lagao haq and not her dear daughter in law... I think he considers himself a Kameena for sure...but to himself, he JUSTIFIED what he did to Madhu as a simple revenge...Dips wasn't taking revenge from him so he never equated the two...this guy anyways has too many jumbled thoughts in his head to think straightforward...Oh yes..he considers himself to be the Kameena..but the RIGHT One...just like he considers himself to be the RIGHT one for Madhu, however Kameenapan he subjects her too...

His logic for the revenge was on a seperate plane...He considered it a "fair" deal for something she started by slapping him...the rest of the complications he just chose to BLOCK OUT cuz he can't DEAL...Oh more than dealing with them...for him..his equations with Madhu are in a different world..a world where he and Madhu are the only ones...and he is the judge and the audience too...and Madhu is that contestant...who is one day voted out and one day given a wild entry...but it is him who does, no  body else has the voting or judging right...

His problem is that he plays GOD even as he unabashedly declares his kameenapanti...He feels he's a kameena but a kameena who's always RIGHT...lol hence RIGHT KameenaLOL

Dips is now going to make him realize that he's been a WRONG Kameena tooLOLoh yes..he loves to play God...and hates when he is told that she has a RIGHT to move on...somehow Right in his mind only means him...LOL it is a weird kind of world that he has carved for himself...and somehow Madhu entered it..and now he just wont let her go back..even though he was the one who had kicked her out...I wont say a layered character..but definitely a twisted one ...LOL

 

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Posted: 06 April 2013 at 12:05pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by AreYaar

Originally posted by Red_Opium

Nice post, AY.  
@Boold, I felt the same way.  It seemed almost as if that part was added afterwords to the episode. What also made me raise my eyebrows was the dialogue exchanged between Madhu and RK thereShocked.. RK's reply towards Madhu's poster comment was within the context of their discussion.  The man was letting her know (more like reassuring himself) that he is not replaceable.  Rk made an statement; he will not be pushed away from her life just because she is forging new relationships.  But where did Madhu's reply fit during that scene (e.g. I'm not your bought property, price tag, bar bar) Confused? Is that hint that the marriage contract might resurface once again? 


Thanks, RO...I think you're right that Madhu's dialogue was put in for a reason...otherwise it made no sense for her to suddenly talk about PRICE TAGS and OWNERSHIP in THAT context...RK atleast was still in context.


So yeah the contract just might get invoked again...

I might be wrong.  But I felt otherwise.  The mention of Price Tag was to DO AWAY with 40 lakhs leverage that RK has in kitty.

See the plot

Requirement - Madhu needs to be back with RK, which is nigh impossible.

  • RK's Poster dialogue to Madhu - I cannot be replaced (implied I will reclaim you as you are trying to move on)
  • Madhu's Price Tag dialogue to RK - How are you going to reclaim me ? Using that leverage as a possession because you bought me ? No way, I am gonna let that happen now.
So the reclaiming act of RK has to be real enough for Madhu to oblige it.




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Posted: 06 April 2013 at 12:09pm | IP Logged
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That precap. Well, some people had asked what makes RK and Dipai different when the revenge drama was carried out. Now we will find out RK ki zubbani.


I dont think he will be able to answer back with this super dialogues this time, i don't think he will be able to defend himself, even if he did Dipali will be the one talking and he will be the one listening..poor RK, but this comment by Dipali was a must if RK is to realize how much he hurt Madhu

True he won't be able to, but he will try to no doubt. I don't think he will accept what Dipali said just like that. He will argue because what Dipali did to him was in his words "aatma ki chot", a betrayal of the highest degree. He will do his best to justify himself but he won't be able to. 

Nonetheless, I want to know what reasons he will use to attempt to justify himself.

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