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Musings over Mystifying Mysteries of Monuland-30 (Page 3)

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Posted: 05 April 2013 at 8:33pm | IP Logged
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Hmmm...just some thoughts as I watched to episode today...and thinking about the developments of the past week or so...random musings...hope it all makes sense.

The Mother
How hard it must be for Megha to watch Mohan shower so much of love and affection on RJ.
No, not because Mohan never showered that love on Nanhi-Addu, because he did (as we clearly saw in the FB...I'll get to that later). But because all these years, Mohan should have been showering that love on Nanhi-Addu. Addu should have still been with them, and they should have spent their lives happily...together. Unfortunately, call it a cruel twist of fate, Mohan wasn't given the chance to shower that love on Nanhi-Addu for the past 12 years...and he didn't take the chance he should have...by coming back...and set things right, fighting for his family - with or without, Addu.  ...What's worse is that Megha thinks RJ is his biological daughter. According to her, he's got this whole other life, a life where she is left on the outside looking in. All the while, in her heart of hearts, she's quite taken seeing Monu be the loving, caring father figure...the one he would have been to Nanhi-Addu...the one she always knew he could be. I feel even sadder for Megha today...because of the cruel game fate has played on her...because of the lies that have been told...because of the misunderstandings that show no sign of letting up. But mostly, because as far as she is concerned, RJ is living proof of Monu's having moved on and betrayed his promise, and her...yet in her heart, she knows she loves this girl and is now bound to her forever...and thereby bound to Mohan. ...That lullaby...Addu's lullaby...was simply heartbreaking...clearly, it was the swan song of her ever-bleeding heart. I am appalled at the strength of this woman. For the mother in her is able to put aside the pain of a wife...and care for her child despite the storm brewing within her. But as we know, Megha has always been a mother before a wife.

The Father
*sigh*...Monu...
Season 2 has headlined Monu the father...RJ's father. But something Monu said today really struck a chord: You must be thinking I was never able to be the father you needed me to be, but if only you could peer inside my heart, you'd see how much my children mean to me...how much they've always meant to me...and how I've always had their best interest at heart...and loved them unconditionally with every fiber of my being. I may not have always been there with them, but they were always here with me.
It's like Monu said to Nanhi...he loved them both, equally...and unconditionally. Sadly, his own relationship with his father got the best of him...he never knew how to be a father. With Nanhi, it always came easily because as he claimed, (even after marriage) Nanhi was Megha's daughter, but his friend...his best friend...the one he confided in. He was just learning how to be a father...and he was trying so hard (again, the flashback). The first step was when he decided not  to help Addu lie to his principal...cause that's what any good father would have done - taught his kid the difference between right and wrong. I can't help but think that all his shortcomings with Addu have helped shape him into this overprotective, first-time parent with RJ. He's overprotective because God-Forbid anything ever happen to her...and he gives into her every whim because if he doesn't she too may begin to hate him...the way Addu did.
He's so afraid that something will happen to her - and he'll lose her too, like he lost his beloved Addu. For the past 12 years, Mohan has been trying to set things right by Addu through RJ...(and ironically, today, Megha is trying to fill Addu's void in her heart through RJ...magical child RJ is, really...and in the end, she will be the one to unite her parents).
"Isko kuch hota hai toh meri saans atak jaati hai"...because he can't bare the thought of hurting another one of his beloved children.
I am loving this entire angle...of Mohan - the father. It's a wonderful new angle of this wonderfully written character. It really gets to the heart of the man he was 12 years ago - a slightly confused, lost soul who is caring, humble, and dignified...and who loves with every fiber of his being...and will go to the end of the world and back for that love. He puts his love for others before all else...that is the one truth at the core of his being. 
THE FLASHBACK: With a flashback like the one we saw today, how is anyone supposed to believe Monu wasn't a good father? It seemed to me as though he loved and cared for those kids and doted on them just as he should have...and by no means did he seem to be anywhere near the "S" word - the dark cloud which which he has lived with and endured all these years. Was it that maybe he really was a good father, perhaps perfect even? They say when your relationship with your own parents isn't ideal, you vow and do everything in your power to be the parent for your kids that your own parents never were. Was this true for Monu? Was the shortcoming simply the fact that Megha and the kids' faith in him was shortlived and that all his good deeds and efforts went flying out the window the day Addu went missing (through no fault of his)? The thought of it makes me so said. The flashback today was so so cute...Ashnooor. Broken Heart

The Lovers
The flashbacks...*sigh* How is it that these two always end up in the same flashback at the same time? 
12 years...of living, every moment of every day, through one of these beautiful memories...this beautiful history. And now, fate is kind enough to put them in the same space and time...and they find themselves still living every moment of the day through one of these beautiful memories. Because who's to say what the future will hold...and so they do the only thing they know how to do anymore...live by memory of times passed by...better times, when for a while, their lives were perfect...they were together, and life, was beautiful.
Have the memories become the vital tool upon which they have built the foundation of their lives without one another? I think so.
She: An outsider, looking in on this too familiar looking man and the world he has created without her. One she should have been a part of.
He: Watching her so seamlessly fit herself into this world he has created with her...asking her to stay...and be a part of...

[Side Note: How beautiful it must be for Mohan to see Megha take her rightful place as RJ's mother...the moment he's been waiting for all these years...short-lived as it may be, has finally come.]

Time
The symbolism again. "Abhi bhi ruk ruk ke chalti hai..?" 
For her:
The watch he gave her hasn't worked properly for 12+ years...and yet she wears it, every day...cause she's forever stuck in that moment...with him.
The watch he gave her hasn't worked properly for 12+ years...and yet she wears it...for him.
The watch he gave her hasn't worked properly in 12+ years...and yet she wears it...waiting...for him.
The lies and misunderstandings will leave her feet rooted to that moment when her world came crashing down around her. Until these are cleared she will stay there, waiting...even if she knows in her heart that he can never be hers again...he chose to move on from her, but she'll continue her wait...because she deserves it - until she can forgive herself, it's the price that she must pay.
For him:
The watch he gave her hasn't worked properly for 12+ years...and yet she wears it...for him.
He's desperate to uproot them from that moment when the world came crashing down around them..he's desperate to move on...move forward...and for the chance to set things right once again. 
He's desperate to make up for his actions (or lack there-of)...for leaving her...and he's desperate to fulfill his promise so that just maybe, she'll forgive him...and ask him to stay. But for now, when Guru has told her everything...and the reality of his hell, why can't she see that he's tried, he's been tried...and he's still trying. 
...but he gives her her own time...to heal the hurt which he inflicted...he's been waiting for 12 years and he's used to it by now...and so he'll mend his own heart and continue to hope...that one day, time will heal them all.

My song today:


EDIT ADD: Special mention for my dear Ashnoor today. I dunno why seeing this girl puts an instant smile on my face...I miss her so so much. Loved that scene today.


Payal, I cried reading your post esp Mother , Father.  I think you are a fabulous writer friend. 
brilliant you need a standing ovation Clap

I always cried whenever Mohan Bhatnager was called sautela. How much pain has he gone through yaar. the dilogues which Mohan said today were so heart touching 

"samajh mein nahi aata tumhara, yeh saara dil se kehrahi ho ya tane maar rahi ho

Tumhari nazar mein kabhi achha baap ban nahi saka,
Lekin kaash tum mere dil mein jhaak pati, tumhe andaza hota ki meine apni bachon ke liye itne saalon mein kya mehsoos kiya, kya kiya hai unke liye."

These lines were so touching i cant tell you how much i felt bad for Mohan. Cry

I understand the pain of Megha too , par aisi saza Mohan ko , Kya itni hi samajh payi kya Megha Mohan ko. Yeh sochke mera dil baita jaata hai

But your post is awesome. I liked it so much. Thank you for making such a 
wonderful post. 


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Posted: 05 April 2013 at 8:47pm | IP Logged
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Thank you for the useless factoid. I'm a nerd, so sincerely appreciate such things.
 
I am glad you enjoyed it Big smile 
 
 
Spot on. As usual. Embarrassed
 
Thank you, Have you heard her May it Be? absolutely heart breaking stuff...Imma have it play at my funeral...
 
I love Jiji. I have a feeling she's going to be instrumental in revealing to Megs that Guru was trying to drive her out of his beloved Monu's life. 
As for Monu, he can't see past the fact that SHE is THERE...in his House...just a few feet from him...breathing the same air as him...in short, he can't see past HER. Can ya blame the poor guy? LOL
 
I hope so...I mean Jiji is like  fairygod mother, so yes she will make everything alright...but today it felt like her bright spirit dimmed a lil due to this lie Ouch
 
 
 
Need some Norepi? Maybe some Mg+ or K+ too? Or shall we just shock u back into rhythm? LOL
 
Sure, anything goes...not the shock...I think it will have adverse effect on my brain...Imagine if the real Psycho Meera asserts herself...it will Death by Kitties for all then Ouch

 
 
Beautifully written. I immensely loved the scene as well...despite all the symbolism. Today, time has turned them into two people, strangers perhaps, with familiar but blurred faces, who are stuck in their yesterday when they were themselves...complete and familiar....Broken Heart
 
Yea, I kinda gave up on cribbing about the symbolism...was very much taken with the running theme of Time Embarrassed and Thank you...

 
 
Well said, Meera. I agree as well. Memories don't fade, we push them aside to protect ourselves from the pain they often inflict. 
 
True Dat!!
 

The scene with the boys lined up was painful to watch. It reminded me of some sort of morbid concentration camp type setting where children are being conditioned for nuclear war. Ouch

I am convinced again today that Munna is Addu and vice versa. My heart breaks for him (except when he is man-handling Ragi). He's lost his identity, his family, and the one hope he's held on to all these years - that if nothing else, his mother must surely miss him and be waiting for him even after all this time. His stone cold heart won't let him express the emotion, the warfare that's raging within him, but that doesn't make the pain and feeling of betrayal go away. He may have temporarily found some sense of belonging with Dsaurus, and for a while, he even seemed as though he'd be willing to do anything for a bit of acceptance, but now it seems he's lost even that. I think sometimes we forgot  (I know I do) just how young Addu was when Amar died. He lost his father at too ripe an age...perhaps that's what made him cling to Megha the way he did...and maybe that was the root of all his obedience issues. The one chance he had at having some sort of father-figure in his life came in the form of Mohan Bhatnagar - a man who had, in every sense of the word, grown up fatherless himself...a man who didn't quite know how to deliver. A child, some misgivings, and poor actions/circumstances took from him the father (however rough around the edges) he ever could have had...and in doing so, took from him his beloved mother...and family. 12 years later, he realizes he still does not have a family...never has, perhaps never will...because while some don't need him, others have moved on without him. Broken Heart Poor poor child.
But for now, I'm still DeadAngry at his man-handling Ragi...I know it's not his fault
(entirely), but ugh...I concur with this: 
  
My heart breaks for the kid, even after all the Man-handling with Ragini...I cannot Fathom how I am sympathizing with an almost abuser...I am very biased on this...but I still feel terrible for the kid...he needs to know the truth and that too soon...before he drives himself insane with rage and hurt Ouch
But he has...he's had that flashback, remember...of young Addu...or maybe that was the last time they saw each other? But I feel Beera would recognize that upsidedown horseshoe M on his arm...let's see.
 
Perhaps, But I got the Impression from the beginning that Beera and Munna have known each other and Beera is jealous of Munna popularity...Confused
 
 
I disagree! Infact, I think it's one of your best! LOL
 
You being Sarcastic with me?? LOL
The earring...again, her earings luuurve him. You've descirbed this scene wonderfully, Meera. Especially, @Bold
 
Thank you Embarrassed
I loved this next bit. Truly. He's so concerned for his Jaan, and had Megha not been there, he would have Dr. there spending the night making sure his child was okay instead. BUT, he has complete faith in this woman that is a naturally a mother who knows all. I saw in this scene the natural shortcomings of a father...one who (as men tend to be) is clueless in certain situations...i saw a man, who was completely dependent upon his wife to fix a situation he knew she could handle better than he ever could. For a moment, he was lafanga patrakaar again...*sigh*...I miss that guy!
 
 
He does have faith in her...like hopeless faith *sigh* I love Lafanga Patrakar so much Embarrassed me too, I want him to start blabbing his mouth again...go Phangurly on Megha Day Dreaming
 
INDEEED! Day Dreaming 

 
Addu's lullaby. This is just heartbreaking. 
 

It was kinda weird for me that he invaded that space when she was lullabying..it WAS her private grief, and at the same time, it was her time with her RJ...I would have preferred Mohan staying away and just letting her have that time and space for a bit longer...BUT, our pighlu majnu can't keep himself away...can't say I blame him. He's been waiting all these years to see Megha take her place as RJ's mother...he's probably pictured this a thousand times in the past when RJ's been sick...wishing Megha was there to ease his jaan's pain. It only makes sense that his eyes would be fixated on the scene...that he'd be trying to drink it in.
@Bold: WORD. Well said.
 
Really? I thought he couldnt bear to stay away for a second...I thought it was completely natural for him to gravitate towards Megha, like a moth to a flame...even though he is in and out of his reality and dream...he just wishes to stay as close to her as possible, just for a little while longer...remember Monu is a Masochist...these are the images of could have been he is collecting, so he can torture himself with it later...
 

 
Who is this spongebob character above? Seeing Ashnoor makes my heart do that. I miss her so much. This girl is so magical. She has this magical ability to make you smile instantaneously, yet my heart weeps because I miss her so and I miss her and KKK and I miss my little nanhi! Broken Heart
 
Its Patrick Big smile Ashnoor is Magical, that little flashback... Ouch I mish her Ouch 
 
 
Yea...his self-inflicted pain is breaking my heart. I wish he'd just come clean and put us all out of our misery. 
 
He prolly will soon...but for the sake of streching, they are gonna milk the MU na...so I am resigned to it
 

 
*sigh*...Indeeed! Day Dreaming
 
 
 

Did you really put the "My Humps" video in your post??!?! ROFL
 

Glad to see you're on your way to recovery, Meera...hopefully the weekend will help.

Thanks so much for this...and Monuland every week. Hug
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Yes I did Big smile  LOL and Yes Hopefully heavy doses of mindless TV, Friendies, shopping and Taxes will help Smile
 
You are Welcome Hug

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Bidz...The flasbacks just make me so sad...I cant even notice their cuteness...but they show such a beautiful life these two could have had...it breaks my heart to see them in such pain...they are fictional characters, what is wrong with me?




I feel the same way! Ouch  Hauntingly beautiful and moving FB, but while it gives me some measure of solace to know our MM shared a happy life together as a couple and as a family, it makes me kinda sad to actually witness how much they both lost in the past 12 years of separation. I totally get where you're coming from Meera. Will respond to musings maybe tomorrow, brain drained today with work/ travel! Wink  But great/ funny stuff as usual! Yay...we're at No. 30!! Congrats!! Party
 
Thanks Lee Embarrassed yes it is 30 Big smile we are officially middle aged in Threadland WinkLOL
 
And Feel better, get some R&R will wait for your thoughts Smile

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Bidz...The flasbacks just make me so sad...I cant even notice their cuteness...but they show such a beautiful life these two could have had...it breaks my heart to see them in such pain...they are fictional characters, what is wrong with me?


Nothing's wrong with you. It IS heartbreaking to think what could have been. That FB with Nanhi has left me Broken Heart Cry
 
We are all super Saddos Cry 
 
It was supposed to be Guru's pity party week...why are they making us cry Ouch

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nice thread.  funny as usual and sensitive too.  very interesting guests :))))

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Thank you Hope Embarrassed

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Thanks Meera, payal for your lovely posts. Seeing Ashnoor and Kunal together was magical.

Even this episode is putting me in a pensive mood. Is it only because of the episode or the mood of the episode and my own desire to ponder over things pensively and practically being able to spare that kindnof leisure ? ???

Good episode. But its time to have a more filrty Mohan and an alluring Megha who is hopelessly romantically responsive to him.
 
Swati...Ashnoor and Kunnu together are like magic *sigh*
 
This episode had very sad undertones...no one was really crying on the outside, but inside their hearts were bleeding, Mohan for the lost time and Megha for Lost love, Guru for Lost Trust and faith and Addu for just being lost *sigh*
 
I concur!!! I want the Blabbing Lafanga Patrakaar and the Mrs exasperated soon Big smile

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Meera and Payal...wow! You both have  left me speechless tonight. I'm so enthralled with your thought processesThumbs Up , your ability to see and understand the depths of emotions of Mohan and Megha, and the absolutely exquisite way in which you're able to express such heart rendering emotions with words! Clap   

Today I just wanted to hug them both and tell them that soon it'll be okay!Unhappy Actually there was a sense of helplessness about them both IMO, about how to wrap their minds and hearts around everything that has transpired between them, and tentatively move forward . Where do we go from here?  What next?  There was a sort of reticence about Megha that I found interesting. Yes she loves RJ, but to subject herself to that pain of implied rejection and desertion, would be like rubbing salt in her own wounds! 

Yet she didn't seem angry or upset, just kind of resigned to her fate , yet perhaps curious re Mohan's new life and "other love ". It's almost like she was punishing herself by watching it all, an outsider looking in, yet not totally accepting that Mohan could have moved on ,not when he still responds to her so lovingly, not when he can't seem to be out of her presence for too long!  She's not sure what to believe or how to respond! 

Realistically this MU should be settled before Megha eventually leaves for JM! It would make sense for Guru to break down, or RJ to mention some   pertinent info re her "mom " shared with her by Mohan. I saw the promo, I mean really, why would Mohan have the audacity to  offer Megha  to wear the saris of his " other wife"?  Surely this must be leading up to clearing this MU soon? Confused I would hate for Megha to have to return to JM with all these perceived  indignities and insensitivities on her already over burdened soul! Ouch

Then why have her stay overnight with Mohan after all, unless something major was going to occur?  Really, I hope by the end of next week ,Megha can get some clarity on this issue, and I think it should be Guru, but at this point I really don't care who does the deed, as long as it gets done!! Wink


Anyways,ladies, I'm beyond impressed, and may even use pieces of your posts to reaffirm Megha or Mohan's pov  if / when it becomes necessary! Wink  If you get my drift!! LOL
  

Thank you both,ever so much for giving such eloquent and  honest voices to both Megha and Mohan's painful journey. It's so encouraging to know that others understand and empathize without being  so judgmental and critical! You are both a breath of fresh air on the forum!!  Thumbs Up


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What's up girls? Looks like some serious talking going on! You people are freaking' amazing with words. My god! Hats off to Meera, Payal and Leesan. 

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