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Posted: 15 March 2013 at 8:05am | IP Logged
Originally posted by bangalores

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i for one wud never say that RK doesn't love MAdhu... but how is realization of love redemption? RK is a weak character? may be he is weak coz he is not strong enough to admit he loves her and  he needs her love, weak because he does not accept that needing someone does not constitute to weakness.

Who wants a weepy RK who drinks like devdas... Cudn't a Man accept his fault without loosing the "layers of character" that makes him interestin?


Sure he can...but that takes time...To admit his mistakes is tantamount to being vulnerable...and for a man as egotistical as RK, vulnerable is the last thing he wants to be...that is why Mr. Shekhawat is calling him a weak man...cuz it takes STRENGTH to admit  your mistakes...to admit that you were wrong...RK uses his ego as a shield...and that is why his redemption will take time.

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Posted: 15 March 2013 at 8:08am | IP Logged
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An, as far as I understood his post...it is not different opinions that bother him but the utter lack of understanding...as an artist if you try to express something, tell a story, show layering to a character and ppl don't even get the essence of it one bit, it would be frustrating.

Most of the fans just seem to have their own agendas...the DD fans cuz they feel upset that Madhu is mistreated by RK and the VD fans have their own...then there's the Rishbala fans who just want romance, period...there aren't many fans who want to watch this for story and characterization.

He IS sticking to his vision as best as he can and I think he's managed quite well in a time where TRP pressures change perfectly good stories overnight into nightmares...a very good example being NBT.

I don't think he's venturing out and asking fans why they don't like what he's showing...if ppl ask him questions, he'll reply...which seems to be the case here...someone asked him and he replied...

I don't see anything wrong with him questioning the maturity of some fans with the way they've created uproars anytime a darker tone to RK's character is shown...I don't see where he called anyone dumb.

This is a complex story and there aren't many takers for complex stories of such sort on Indian TV...that they've managed to show this much layering to RK is an achievement in itself...don't know how long it will last though.

Anu: I believe in a good story and love watching good writing on screen. I don't have a moral compass when it comes to stories, I read all kinds, and as I said before also, I have no issues with R.K having any colour or the revenge drama. I did and still have a problem with the writing of the revenge track and this present so called redemption track. To be honest, his replies are making me question my own understanding of writing, whatever little I have thanks to it being my field of interest. 

We all are not watching this show from the same window and if he expects that everyone is able to see the same view from their respective windows, he is completely being unrealistic. It's better not to communicate because then you won't just hear praises. 

P.S.: I may not agree but never have wanted this show's TRPs to drop because it snatches away the creatives freedom to show what they want to show. But, the same way, I have the right to not agree to what he is trying to project.  

 

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Posted: 15 March 2013 at 8:12am | IP Logged
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Anu: I believe in a good story and love watching good writing on screen. I don't have a moral compass when it comes to stories, I read all kinds, and as I said before also, I have no issues with R.K having any colour or the revenge drama. I did and still have a problem with the writing of the revenge track and this present so called redemption track. To be honest, his replies are making me question my own understanding of writing, whatever little I have thanks to it being my field of interest. 

We all are not watching this show from the same window and if he expects that everyone is able to see the same view from their respective windows, he is completely being unrealistic. It's better not to communicate because then you won't just hear praises. 

P.S.: I may not agree but never have wanted this show's TRPs to drop because it snatches away the creatives freedom to show what they want to show. But, the same way, I have the right to not agree to what he is trying to project.  

 


An, differences in opinion are bound to happen but I also am not able to understand why ppl can't understand the redemption/realization track even a TINY bit...I actually think the writing in those weeks has been some of the most fantastic in the show yet...

I'm not a professional writer like you may be but I've always loved reading so maybe that is where my perspective on this is coming from...different strokes I guess is what we'll have to leave it at...I don't personally get the sheer ANGER being directed at the writers for the revenge/redemption track...within the confines of a daily soap, they've managed to execute something amazing as far as I'm concerned...it is only this recent filler Don track which btw is heavily lifted from LTL that I'm not much of a fan of.

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Posted: 15 March 2013 at 8:17am | IP Logged
i like Rk no matter what he is ,..he is awesome with uniqueness Big smile 

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Posted: 15 March 2013 at 8:20am | IP Logged

rk is rk   large the life

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Posted: 15 March 2013 at 8:21am | IP Logged
realization is the first step of redemption...I would not like to show RK becoming a seedha saada and simply crying in redemption and helping poor and mellowing down...Thats not him...His redemption has to be different...BUTTT...now..seeing the reaction of the viewers...who obviously understand RK,life and love,characterizations more then me...we may have to show a ghisa pita redemption becos thats what would be understood...It was my mistake to believe that i m dealing with slightly mature fans...but i was totally wrong...

His jealousy...his anger...his possessiveness...that pooison in him...all that is love...a very dark side of love...which no one seems to understand...Very easy to throw bricks and thats what is been done...Infact thats why i have even stopped visiting those sites now...Why interact and just say thanks or sorry when they dont seem to understand anything...?People ask for layering...and when we give that..they ask for black or white characters...



RS Sir ...This is 4 uClapClapClap...U said it...LOL...People want Black n Whilte characters only...If somebody does wrong tht person is totally wrong ...LOL...Understanding RK...LOL...Its a big joke ...Many understand only 1 thing...Crying...Bashing...n demanding 4 new jodis ...without understanding anything...LOL...

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Posted: 15 March 2013 at 8:21am | IP Logged
Originally posted by AreYaar


An, differences in opinion are bound to happen but I also am not able to understand why ppl can't understand the redemption/realization track even a TINY bit...I actually think the writing in those weeks has been some of the most fantastic in the show yet...

I'm not a professional writer like you may be but I've always loved reading so maybe that is where my perspective on this is coming from...different strokes I guess is what we'll have to leave it at...I don't personally get the sheer ANGER being directed at the writers for the revenge/redemption track...within the confines of a daily soap, they've managed to execute something amazing as far as I'm concerned...it is only this recent filler Don track which btw is heavily lifted from LTL that I'm not much of a fan of.

The same way you are unable to understand why some of us are not on the same page. Smile You cannot blame the others of not seeing what they are attempting to show when you are unable to see why we are complaining. I am okay with the Don track, not because it's going to force R.K into doing something but because it adds to the intrigue and curiosity factor and how he changes the dynamics of a relationship. 

Here is something that one of the books on my shelf say: "Fiction has the flexibility denied to film and drama, where everything the spectator knows must be shown." 


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Posted: 15 March 2013 at 8:25am | IP Logged
I still want RS to stick to the Redemption track HE PLANNED! Not the one which he calls ghisa pita... Coz it is ghisa pita! When RK is Alag Chhe so why can't his redemption be.
You should have asked, what made the team rope in SULTAN Stern Smile
More than redemption, I wanna know this.

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