Vote on merit not on popularity (Page 5)

zpreme

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Posted: 03 March 2013 at 9:39pm | IP Logged

Originally posted by tamanna_20

Originally posted by zpreme

Originally posted by tamanna_20

I agree people should vote on merit, not on popularity. But that's very unlikely to happen, which kind of sucks. That's why a lot of such reality shows with audience voting become a popularity contest instead of dance competition.

On the other hand, I completely disagree with the whole conversation going on in this thread about Charlie's lack of effort. I'm not a fan of this girl but seriously, it's one thing to state that she is not a good dancer, or even to say she can't dance to save her life. I couldn't agree more with this fact. But how does that equal to she is not putting in effort?? The whole idea that if you practice and put in the effort, you can accomplish anything in this world is nice, but it's not true. So maybe Charlie is putting in the effort, as much effort as she can, but it's just not working. Dancing just doesn't seem to be her cup of tea. But I think to make claims that she's not putting in the effort, or she doesn't love Amar enough, is insulting to her, and honestly no one has the right to say that about her, because truth is you don't know the reality.

Trust me, I am not tryna refrain myself from insulting Charlie.

Ok.. Is there a reason for this?? Like I understand if you say she can't dance, that's more like a fact even I can see.. But isn't saying she doesn't put effort or she doesn't love her bf more like biased judgements about someone?? This is not to spark an argument, so don't hate on me, I just had to ask.. because I really think its unfair to claim that someone is not putting in effort when you don't know how hard they might be working

Well, like you said you cannot turn a blind eye to her terrible dancing. And certainly she may be putting in the effort, you must be if you are participating in this kinda show, but that doesn't mean at the end of day you should be offered the winners spot, each and every contestant on the show are putting in the effort. For me however, Charlie's efforts don't show through. You can dismiss slight imperfections and errors during initial stages of the show but this has been a ongoing trend for her and one can only be so forgiving. Another reason she irks my soul is the continuous sobs and excuses in cover of her weak performances. I ain't a victim of cheap, sob stories and calculated methods to earn/arouse votes.

About biased judgement? I think not. My opinion may differ to yours however that does qualify it of being biased. Come a good performance of C-A's and I will deffo appreciate it but really by then, they should be gone, they've been given enuff chances to redeem themselves but continued to fall short at their end.

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Posted: 03 March 2013 at 9:53pm | IP Logged

Originally posted by zpreme

Originally posted by tamanna_20

Originally posted by zpreme

Originally posted by tamanna_20

I agree people should vote on merit, not on popularity. But that's very unlikely to happen, which kind of sucks. That's why a lot of such reality shows with audience voting become a popularity contest instead of dance competition.

On the other hand, I completely disagree with the whole conversation going on in this thread about Charlie's lack of effort. I'm not a fan of this girl but seriously, it's one thing to state that she is not a good dancer, or even to say she can't dance to save her life. I couldn't agree more with this fact. But how does that equal to she is not putting in effort?? The whole idea that if you practice and put in the effort, you can accomplish anything in this world is nice, but it's not true. So maybe Charlie is putting in the effort, as much effort as she can, but it's just not working. Dancing just doesn't seem to be her cup of tea. But I think to make claims that she's not putting in the effort, or she doesn't love Amar enough, is insulting to her, and honestly no one has the right to say that about her, because truth is you don't know the reality.

Trust me, I am not tryna refrain myself from insulting Charlie.

Ok.. Is there a reason for this?? Like I understand if you say she can't dance, that's more like a fact even I can see.. But isn't saying she doesn't put effort or she doesn't love her bf more like biased judgements about someone?? This is not to spark an argument, so don't hate on me, I just had to ask.. because I really think its unfair to claim that someone is not putting in effort when you don't know how hard they might be working

Well, like you said you cannot turn a blind eye to her terrible dancing. And certainly she may be putting in the effort, you must be if you are participating in this kinda show, but that doesn't mean at the end of day you should be offered the winners spot, each and every contestant on the show are putting in the effort. For me however, Charlie's efforts don't show through. You can dismiss slight imperfections and errors during initial stages of the show but this has been a ongoing trend for her and one can only be so forgiving. Another reason she irks my soul is the continuous sobs and excuses in cover of her weak performances. I ain't a victim of cheap, sob stories and calculated methods to earn/arouse votes.

About biased judgement? I think not. My opinion may differ to yours however that does qualify it of being biased. Come a good performance of C-A's and I will deffo appreciate it but really by then, they should be gone, they've been given enuff chances to redeem themselves but continued to fall short at their end.

Well like I said in my previous post I think we should end the convo because I don't buy the entire idea that efforts have to show through in a performance. All those sayings that effort and practice can make you good at anything and everything are nice to hear, but they're not true. If you don't have the talent, body, flexibility, natural postural balance to perform well, then Charlie can put as much effort as she wants it won't work, and it won't show to anyone either. I guess you think otherwise. In your eyes your judgement about her effort is a fact given what you see her do on stage, but the reality is that it remains a highly biased judgement because you haven't seen her NOT putting in the effort.

And I'm not a fan of this girl. Her crying irks me too. And the out-of-place expressions she gives in her acts irk me as well. And like you, I would be highly disappointed and upset if they end up winning NB. But to think that everyone can become a good dancer if they put the effort in, and that if they don't become good dancers automatically means they're not working hard, doesn't sit well with me. Some people are not as talented as others, but that doesn't mean we also demean their hard work.

Edited by tamanna_20 - 03 March 2013 at 10:19pm

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zpreme

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Posted: 03 March 2013 at 9:56pm | IP Logged

Originally posted by tamanna_20

Originally posted by zpreme

Originally posted by tamanna_20

Originally posted by zpreme

Originally posted by tamanna_20

I agree people should vote on merit, not on popularity. But that's very unlikely to happen, which kind of sucks. That's why a lot of such reality shows with audience voting become a popularity contest instead of dance competition.

On the other hand, I completely disagree with the whole conversation going on in this thread about Charlie's lack of effort. I'm not a fan of this girl but seriously, it's one thing to state that she is not a good dancer, or even to say she can't dance to save her life. I couldn't agree more with this fact. But how does that equal to she is not putting in effort?? The whole idea that if you practice and put in the effort, you can accomplish anything in this world is nice, but it's not true. So maybe Charlie is putting in the effort, as much effort as she can, but it's just not working. Dancing just doesn't seem to be her cup of tea. But I think to make claims that she's not putting in the effort, or she doesn't love Amar enough, is insulting to her, and honestly no one has the right to say that about her, because truth is you don't know the reality.

Trust me, I am not tryna refrain myself from insulting Charlie.

Ok.. Is there a reason for this?? Like I understand if you say she can't dance, that's more like a fact even I can see.. But isn't saying she doesn't put effort or she doesn't love her bf more like biased judgements about someone?? This is not to spark an argument, so don't hate on me, I just had to ask.. because I really think its unfair to claim that someone is not putting in effort when you don't know how hard they might be working

Well, like you said you cannot turn a blind eye to her terrible dancing. And certainly she may be putting in the effort, you must be if you are participating in this kinda show, but that doesn't mean at the end of day you should be offered the winners spot, each and every contestant on the show are putting in the effort. For me however, Charlie's efforts don't show through. You can dismiss slight imperfections and errors during initial stages of the show but this has been a ongoing trend for her and one can only be so forgiving. Another reason she irks my soul is the continuous sobs and excuses in cover of her weak performances. I ain't a victim of cheap, sob stories and calculated methods to earn/arouse votes.

About biased judgement? I think not. My opinion may differ to yours however that does qualify it of being biased. Come a good performance of C-A's and I will deffo appreciate it but really by then, they should be gone, they've been given enuff chances to redeem themselves but continued to fall short at their end.

Well like I said in my previous post I think we should end the convo because I don't buy the entire idea that efforts have to show through in a performance. All those sayings that effort and practice can make you good at anything and everything are nice to hear, but they're not true. If you don't have the talent, body, flexibility, natural postural balance to perform well, then Charlie can put as much effort as she wants it won't work, and it won't show to anyone either. I guess you think otherwise, so in your eyes your judgement about her effort is a fact given what you see her do on stage, but to me it remains a biased judgement because you haven't seen her NOT putting in the effort.

And I'm not a fan of this girl. Her crying irks me too. And the out-of-place expressions she gives in her acts irk me as well. And like you, I would be highly disappointed and upset if they end up winning NB. But to think that everyone can become a good dancer if they put the effort in, and that if they don't become good dancers automatically means they're not working hard, doesn't sit well with me. Some people are not as talented as others, but that doesn't mean we also demean their hard work.

Right well, not more that can be said in that case. But good discussion. Cheers.

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Posted: 03 March 2013 at 10:53pm | IP Logged

See its not no one doing hardwork each and every jodi is doing their level best to be in the competition no one is like haan yeh weak haan and things all have pulled up their socks , seeing Ravi-sargun in bottom 2 we cant predict the elimination so lets enjoy all hardwork and aprreiciate .

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Posted: 03 March 2013 at 11:32pm | IP Logged

Originally posted by pree4ru

See its not no one doing hardwork each and every jodi is doing their level best to be in the competition no one is like haan yeh weak haan and things all have pulled up their socks , seeing Ravi-sargun in bottom 2 we cant predict the elimination so lets enjoy all hardwork and aprreiciate .

Exactly Pree ji Embarrassed

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Posted: 03 March 2013 at 11:40pm | IP Logged

agree.. with ur post

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Posted: 04 March 2013 at 2:27am | IP Logged

see its a reality show and people vote according to their favourite...

if you are a huge fan of a contestant and they lack something in their performance i bet you will vote for them only...

its natural... and charmar is actually very hard working...amar have to practice more than just this two performance...their shooting schedule is really tight unlike other jodi's...so charmar deserve to win.and as i know amar he will be back with a bang...love charmar...ay to go

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zpreme

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Posted: 04 March 2013 at 10:01am | IP Logged

Originally posted by allseasonrain

see its a reality show and people vote according to their favourite...

if you are a huge fan of a contestant and they lack something in their performance i bet you will vote for them only...

its natural... and charmar is actually very hard working...amar have to practice more than just this two performance...their shooting schedule is really tight unlike other jodi's...so charmar deserve to win.and as i know amar he will be back with a bang...love charmar...ay to go

I wouldn't go that far, yh Charlie-Amar's sched is packed but so are others. Channels like Starplus are more demanding. And Sargun is managing between two shows so I don't think for any contestant this excuse is plausible I mean they opt to participate on this show having considered the circumstances.

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