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Posted: 11 February 2013 at 12:05am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Xarina

A great topic TM and very well laid out.  I see things like this:
In a society where being married is the be all and end all of everything women like Ratan are viewed as the enemy by some women.  They do not see her as a woman who has had an injustice done against her they see her as a strong, single woman who has her eyes on their husbands and is a threat to their marriage.  Nevermind that she was left abandoned by her husband to fend for herself and look after two young children. To them every woman is a threat and is more dangerous to them  But wait there.  This is also the case in other societies too as a single woman is left out in the cold by her married friends for fear that will wreck their marriage, but I just wanted to give this as an example.  In the workforce it is actually much harder working for a female boss than it is for a male boss as the same insecurities you see here are played out in many offices where, jealousy of looks, position, ability and even in some cases favouritism are rife.

I agree with you here, most women (pardon me ladiesConfusedLOL) are insecure lot. But i guess their insecurity stems out from the long running traditions and belief of women being secondary to men! Choices, discrimination and gender biases affects the psyche of every woman in one way or the other. While some joins the race to prove herself superior by demeaning other fellow souls some are left high and dry to fetch for themselves. Strange is the way of our society, if she would have begged for support, she would have been termed a parasite and now when she's standing on her own she's regarded as a threat! 

A jealous soul speaks a language of its own! If i can't be independent than why she? what makes her better than me... for all my nobility and indulgences oh she doesn't even reach my shoulders!  And then begins the race to step on the back of this potential threat!
 
Now lets move to the attitude of the men.  Here is an insult to their masculinity.  A woman who dares to stand with them and earn a living.  With no man to support her she is seen as easy prey.  She may be just as able as them yet they only think of her audacity to be seen in public. To be getting on in life, doing ok all without a man.  It is this village mentality that I can't help but liken to the mating habits of a male duck.  I apologise for having this thought but I can't put it in a different way.  They can not bear to see a woman on her own and will either cast aspersions on her character, morals or worse her sexuality.  If this fails they will make a move on her such is their mindset.

@bold ROFLROFLROFL as much as it stinks you nailed it!Ouch

The chauvinists! Its like a blow to their ego! How oh how is she standing all mighty and gay in my arena Angry She's on fields, sure she's available or is weak enough to be taken advantage of and be exploited! And when she denies... how dare she! 
 
Having written this second paragraph I re read the first paragraph and see why women like Bansuri are how they are.  I don't condone it.  But is it the fault of the woman for feeling in this way and in turn betraying the sisterhood by not standing with a woman such as Ratan.

I firmly believe that if we wish to change the situation, its the woman in the first place who needs to be liberated... of not only her confinement at homes but also the confinement of her thoughts... she's a mother, a sister, and until a woman stands for herself and womanhood... men like Bhaktavar will continue to roam freely on the roads gawking for the next victim, he could lay his hands on!Dead
 
Topic maker if I have deviated from your original points, I am sorry.  I just wrote it as I saw it.

Loved the points you mentioned... it was awesome reading your take Hug

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Posted: 11 February 2013 at 12:06am | IP Logged
Originally posted by neelanjanasingh

Great topic & very well said...Clap

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Posted: 11 February 2013 at 12:11am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Meena101

That was very well written. 

Unfortunately we all know someone like Bansuri in real life and it is also true that it is women that have to pay for mens mistakes. I'm so glad that Ratan is being portrayed as a strong independent woman, there are not enough of them on tv. 

Men may be stronger physically but women are stronger in every other way. 

Exactly, Bansuri is someone we all know... faces change, names change but the character remains the same Ouch And she's one woman who pushes another in deep abyss when something untoward happens... she's the first person to mock! 

@Bold

Hands down! No man can ever take an emotional pressure that might be half as much of what a woman keeps in her! 

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Posted: 12 February 2013 at 2:22am | IP Logged
Well written post Clap
 
I remember some one once told me , love makes woman weak, but pain makes her stronger, may be all answer lies in this explanation.Approve

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Posted: 12 February 2013 at 1:50pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by euphoric

Originally posted by Xarina

A great topic TM and very well laid out.  I see things like this:
In a society where being married is the be all and end all of everything women like Ratan are viewed as the enemy by some women.  They do not see her as a woman who has had an injustice done against her they see her as a strong, single woman who has her eyes on their husbands and is a threat to their marriage.  Nevermind that she was left abandoned by her husband to fend for herself and look after two young children. To them every woman is a threat and is more dangerous to them  But wait there.  This is also the case in other societies too as a single woman is left out in the cold by her married friends for fear that will wreck their marriage, but I just wanted to give this as an example.  In the workforce it is actually much harder working for a female boss than it is for a male boss as the same insecurities you see here are played out in many offices where, jealousy of looks, position, ability and even in some cases favouritism are rife.

I agree with you here, most women (pardon me ladiesConfusedLOL) are insecure lot. But i guess their insecurity stems out from the long running traditions and belief of women being secondary to men! Choices, discrimination and gender biases affects the psyche of every woman in one way or the other. While some joins the race to prove herself superior by demeaning other fellow souls some are left high and dry to fetch for themselves. Strange is the way of our society, if she would have begged for support, she would have been termed a parasite and now when she's standing on her own she's regarded as a threat! 

A jealous soul speaks a language of its own! If i can't be independent than why she? what makes her better than me... for all my nobility and indulgences oh she doesn't even reach my shoulders!  And then begins the race to step on the back of this potential threat!
 
Now lets move to the attitude of the men.  Here is an insult to their masculinity.  A woman who dares to stand with them and earn a living.  With no man to support her she is seen as easy prey.  She may be just as able as them yet they only think of her audacity to be seen in public. To be getting on in life, doing ok all without a man.  It is this village mentality that I can't help but liken to the mating habits of a male duck.  I apologise for having this thought but I can't put it in a different way.  They can not bear to see a woman on her own and will either cast aspersions on her character, morals or worse her sexuality.  If this fails they will make a move on her such is their mindset.

@bold ROFLROFLROFL as much as it stinks you nailed it!Ouch

The chauvinists! Its like a blow to their ego! How oh how is she standing all mighty and gay in my arena Angry She's on fields, sure she's available or is weak enough to be taken advantage of and be exploited! And when she denies... how dare she! 
 
Having written this second paragraph I re read the first paragraph and see why women like Bansuri are how they are.  I don't condone it.  But is it the fault of the woman for feeling in this way and in turn betraying the sisterhood by not standing with a woman such as Ratan.

I firmly believe that if we wish to change the situation, its the woman in the first place who needs to be liberated... of not only her confinement at homes but also the confinement of her thoughts... she's a mother, a sister, and until a woman stands for herself and womanhood... men like Bhaktavar will continue to roam freely on the roads gawking for the next victim, he could lay his hands on!Dead
 
Topic maker if I have deviated from your original points, I am sorry.  I just wrote it as I saw it.

Loved the points you mentioned... it was awesome reading your take Hug
Aww thanks.  One return Hug from me.  Your post hilighted all that is wrong with the sisterhood and all that is wrong with some factions of the community.  They just can't stomach it when the apple cart is upset.
Oh and the duck reference?  I was watching a documentary and it left me Shocked.  They do that in Duckville too?ROFL
Be awesome.Big smile

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Posted: 13 February 2013 at 5:58am | IP Logged
Originally posted by N.bhavna

Well written post Clap
 
I remember some one once told me , love makes woman weak, but pain makes her stronger, may be all answer lies in this explanation.Approve

So aptly said! A woman can give up anything for the one she loves but as its said, hell hath no fury like a woman scorned! you just can defeat her then Smile

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Posted: 13 February 2013 at 6:05am | IP Logged
You may soak, wash, bleach a sick mind but it will still stink! and Bansuri proved it yesterday! 

She knew what happened in the house just a day before but that didn't stop her from spitting acid on Ratan's wounds! Her words and that sick psycho smirk meant exactly what she suggested. 

What a rotting thought process! if a man comes to help a single woman in the time of her need, ahaa... something is definitely on... either that woman is interested or that Man is seeking! How disgusting Dead She was the one to point fingers during Kartar's episode too and even now... wht do you call her then? 

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Posted: 13 February 2013 at 6:26am | IP Logged
Originally posted by euphoric

You may soak, wash, bleach a sick mind but it will still stink! and Bansuri proved it yesterday! 

She knew what happened in the house just a day before but that didn't stop her from spitting acid on Ratan's wounds! Her words and that sick psycho smirk meant exactly what she suggested. 

What a rotting thought process! if a man comes to help a single woman in the time of her need, ahaa... something is definitely on... either that woman is interested or that Man is seeking! How disgusting Dead She was the one to point fingers during Kartar's episode too and even now... wht do you call her then? 
There are words but on a public forum I cannot use them.  What an evil, minded, spiteful excuse for a woman she is.  It comes down to power, one upwomanship and the inability to see someone content with their lot.  Lady Macbeth comes to mind.  Always wanting the best of everything.  Her husband is now one of the most influential men in the village and she is enjoying riding on the back of the cape

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