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Posted: 05 February 2013 at 8:46pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by narangi314

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hi naraangi ( sorry , don't know your name)...i am Priyanka...I recently read an article in Huffington post about " marital rape" still considered as controversial in India...honestly,I am not shocked. Can you imagine a woman being blamed for been raped...there has been numerous cases where they said the woman asked for it because she was inappropriately dressed or she was drunk or she was the one who accompanied  the rapist. People still don't get the idea that it doesn't matter how she was dressed or she was alone or not or she was drunk... If she says NO to sex...it's rape... It falls in the marital rape laws too.

Did you know  some think that Slapping doesn't fall in the category of violence and think that to define domestic violence the woman and man has to be romantically involved...? 



Hi Priyanka! I'm Mira Smile

Yes it's true unfortunately. The Verma committee which was constituted after the Delhi gang rape has made some really far reaching suggestions to the Govt., incuding on marital rape. But they are yet to implement. Rape laws in India are woefully inadequate.

I'm not surprised by the ignorance here...That's why I posted about the 2005 PWADV act. Hopefully some people can now educate themselves about what "domestic" means! The idea that dom. violence happens between romantic or married couples is beyond antiquated.

What really scares me is how ill-informed people are. I live in the US, but I keenly follow social justice issues in India. I grew up there and it will always be home. But I am shocked that so many people living in India are not aware of the developments in law and social justice. There is enough being reported about this in newspapers and TV!!
hi Mira...I live in California...I have been living in America since I was 6 but I am very close to India at heart...I have relatives there whom I am very close to. The Delhi rape case left me numb...did you know the trial is on right now? I am following it very closely...thanks for your information about the marital rape laws...I couldn't reply to you in the thread because they closed it. Sometimes, i feel hopeless at the ignorance of some ppl. But, you know something amongst all this ...I feel lucky that I had the opportunity to know some great ppl like you and the others. 


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Posted: 05 February 2013 at 8:48pm | IP Logged
I am disappointed they are showing Asad like this. Some people say it is justified, I say heck no. And I'm glad other people agree.

Honestly this one time slap leads to more and more. It sends out a message that slapping is ok. Plus Asad's slap can be considered as harassment. But off course this is a show and the main lead raised his hand. No one will raise their voice. I bet if some minor character raised their hand it would not have been okay. I think some who are supporting is might be because KSG is playing Asad...

Apart from that I have been a day 1 supporter of Zoya helping Marium. The thing is she took a stand and did something about what happened to Marium. I haven't watched today's episode but if she accepts the slap and is not even upset, it will be against her character. I would hate to see this happen to Zoya because she is one of my favorite main female leads.
 
Plus I saw a comment that this will lead to romance... I'm not sure about you but the last thing I'd want to do is fall in love with the guy who slapped me.

There were comments that this is all Zoya's fault. It is not. Dilshad brought her back, I bet thats when they spotted Marium. And because Dilshad brought Marium back this also means that Zoya did the right thing before.

Azad emotions are understandable and if he words instead of his hand it would have been more acceptable. Raising his hand was NOT okay. He should have controlled him self.

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Posted: 05 February 2013 at 8:48pm | IP Logged
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I'm honestly surprised that many threads which had the most insightful and civilized discussions going on were closed Confused Anyways I'm making it a point to report every pro-slap and drooling-over-the-hotness-of the-slap threads because they should not be open either. It thoroughly escapes me why we cannot have a mature critical discussion on this forum Thumbs Down
hi Aalia...thankyou for doing this...I have reported many myself...even sent out a complain letter to all the moderators.

Priyanka

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Posted: 05 February 2013 at 8:51pm | IP Logged
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Originally posted by Aalia_A

During the course of my hitting-the-report-button spree, I came across a million drooling posts on Asad. This considering that he already has an AT. And none of those threads get closed. Are they not cluttering the forum? Ermm
no they are fine with it...I guess they just have problem with the people who are actually trying to have a mature conversation on an important issue.

Only too true. But I'm done with turning the other cheek for the sake of entertainment. Pun intended. If entertainment toes too dangerously to the harsh reality line, they should be more aware and responsible with it. There is always a certain section of audience who are not going to take this unwarranted glorification of hero and abuse lying down. 

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Posted: 05 February 2013 at 8:51pm | IP Logged
Priyanka,

To your point about people not considering slapping to be violence. 

Slapping is unfortunately SO common in Indian cinema and on TV shows. It is an expression of power. It is used to humiliate, put in place, to assert authority...Parents often slap their grown children (!)...and this is considered okay.

In reality, Corporal punishment is pretty common place in families and schools, but I'm happy to report that this is also changing in India, but far more slowly ... people actually find it hard to accept that a few slaps even in the name of disciple is not okay... we still have the victorian attitude of "spare the rod and spoil the child"...

All goes to show why people wold not consider a slap a big deal...sadly.

I must say that its got me thinking how casual and common place violence has become...for us not to even consider it violence!

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Posted: 05 February 2013 at 8:52pm | IP Logged
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I am disappointed they are showing Asad like this. Some people say it is justified, I say heck no. And I'm glad other people agree.

Honestly this one time slap leads to more and more. It sends out a message that slapping is ok. Plus Asad's slap can be considered as harassment. But off course this is a show and the main lead raised his hand. No one will raise their voice. I bet if some minor character raised their hand it would not have been okay. I think some who are supporting is might be because KSG is playing Asad...

Apart from that I have been a day 1 supporter of Zoya helping Marium. The thing is she took a stand and did something about what happened to Marium. I haven't watched today's episode but if she accepts the slap and is not even upset, it will be against her character. I would hate to see this happen to Zoya because she is one of my favorite main female leads.
 
Plus I saw a comment that this will lead to romance... I'm not sure about you but the last thing I'd want to do is fall in love with the guy who slapped me.

There were comments that this is all Zoya's fault. It is not. Dilshad brought her back, I bet thats when they spotted Marium. And because Dilshad brought Marium back this also means that Zoya did the right thing before.

Azad emotions are understandable and if he words instead of his hand it would have been more acceptable. Raising his hand was NOT okay. He should have controlled him self.

-Star
welcome to the minority dear...don't worry there are lot of ppl who has condemned the slap and are voicing out against the violence. We might be in minority but every comment against violence counts ...

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Posted: 05 February 2013 at 8:57pm | IP Logged
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Originally posted by Aalia_A

During the course of my hitting-the-report-button spree, I came across a million drooling posts on Asad. This considering that he already has an AT. And none of those threads get closed. Are they not cluttering the forum? Ermm
no they are fine with it...I guess they just have problem with the people who are actually trying to have a mature conversation on an important issue.

Only too true. But I'm done with turning the other cheek for the sake of entertainment. Pun intended. If entertainment toes too dangerously to the harsh reality line, they should be more aware and responsible with it. There is always a certain section of audience who are not going to take this unwarranted glorification of hero and abuse lying down. 
bravo girl...even one comment against violence is a step towards awareness and so we shouldn't give up but keeping fighting for our cause.

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Posted: 05 February 2013 at 8:58pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Rupunzale

Originally posted by starasdf

I am disappointed they are showing Asad like this. Some people say it is justified, I say heck no. And I'm glad other people agree.

Honestly this one time slap leads to more and more. It sends out a message that slapping is ok. Plus Asad's slap can be considered as harassment. But off course this is a show and the main lead raised his hand. No one will raise their voice. I bet if some minor character raised their hand it would not have been okay. I think some who are supporting is might be because KSG is playing Asad...

Apart from that I have been a day 1 supporter of Zoya helping Marium. The thing is she took a stand and did something about what happened to Marium. I haven't watched today's episode but if she accepts the slap and is not even upset, it will be against her character. I would hate to see this happen to Zoya because she is one of my favorite main female leads.
 
Plus I saw a comment that this will lead to romance... I'm not sure about you but the last thing I'd want to do is fall in love with the guy who slapped me.

There were comments that this is all Zoya's fault. It is not. Dilshad brought her back, I bet thats when they spotted Marium. And because Dilshad brought Marium back this also means that Zoya did the right thing before.

Azad emotions are understandable and if he words instead of his hand it would have been more acceptable. Raising his hand was NOT okay. He should have controlled him self.

-Star
welcome to the minority dear...don't worry there are lot of ppl who has condemned the slap and are voicing out against the violence. We might be in minority but every comment against violence counts ...


Ty, and I am somewhat surprised so many people are okay with it.
Btw on a lighter note while I was typing this I just watched Amitabh Bachan stop his dad from slapping his mom in a movieLOL.



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