Originally posted by: Dabulls23What doc Onir may do for his sanskari tyaagi wifi or himself in switching babies is soo against medical ethics. He would hv his license taken away. What EK shows in her silly serials is nonsense.
These days AIDs have pretty good treatment antiretroviral drugs that can allow patients to live near normal life. I believe there a few cases in AID patients that the doctors are cautiously declaring fully cured. If it hasn't been for the big Pharma companies, could we even have those AIDS drugs in the first place?
When one talk about Niche market in regard to a Pharma company, it mean diseases that are rare and occur in a small population. I think you misunderstood me. As for your argument of Niche Disease market is for maximizing profit, it basically then assumes that the consumers of that market must be millionaires so that the Pharma companies can charge them an arm and a leg, not to mention, that the disease must be life threatening so that the consumer are willing to pay for a cure. It also assumes that they is some sort of mutual exclusivity decided (which isn't legal) between the Big Phrama companies, before such drug development happen. Only under such theoretical conditions, a big pharma company can laugh to the bank. The big pharma companies are equally interested in making affordable drugs but that desn't mean it can't even breakeven or create a pool that allows research to go forward. I really find this argument hard as that if R&D (which bi no means is a one time cost for drug) stops, how will new treatments even be developed? And who is willing to work for free in a pharma company. A profit is needed just to keep the wheels moving, pay its bill, and keep R&D moving. For one phrama company to survive, many companies go under? Does AK works for free in his films or are the directors not expecting a pay or the produce not interested in a profit. But, when pharma company wants to safeguard it drugs from been copied, we become judgmental.
Lastly, a pharma company cannot just go in and do business anywhere it likes. No, that isn't that simple as making and selling a car. If and when a company plans to take their drug to a country, like China, England Japan, they have to get clearance from their federal medical agencies of that country - and that can run into years. I believe the clearing body in India is the General Medical council. Same is applicable everywhere, and each countries has its own sets of specification/rules and regulations that a pharma company has to meet and abide by. That itself might involve some more clinical trials in that geographical location (esp. true in Japan) and or fulfillment of region specific requirements. Sometime the redtaps, corruptions and bureaucracy is so bad in certain countries, not to mention patent issues, the drug company doesn't even want to enter that market - for any bribe paid by a pharma company which operated out of US is a punishable federal offense, and the prevalence of bribe just acts as a deterrent for a pharma company to enter markets like India, Brazil...
Originally posted by: sashashyamKalapi,
It is nearly 2 am here, so I will be even briefer. Of course you mean 'cures' (@red) (unless that was a Freudian slip!), but I was not aware that there are already cures for AIDS and cancer, neither of which would I call a common ailment.
As for @blue, you are endorsing what I have been saying at much greater length, that Big Pharma only goes into niche areas where it can collar markets and maximise profits. And if the market has to be niche, the prices have to be that much higher. Big Pharma would not be interested in affordable anti-AIDS drugs for India or Africa. On the contrary, it would try its best to stifle such cheap drug availability, by hook or by crook.
As for the Indian lower middle class and the poor, it is very clear what would benefit them, and it would not be Big Pharma and its niche formulations, which are clearly not meant to promote the greatest good of the greatest number. Why would they make a thousand Tata Nanos when they can make the same profit on a single Ferrari? But can Ferraris ever solve the transport needs of the urban middle class? So we in India need a Ratan Tata, not an Enzo Ferrari.
Shyamala
Originally posted by: Dabulls23One of my friend's elder Jitu is in hospital last stage of Lung cancer which was diagnosed just abt couple of months ago. Now in coma for last 10 days. He is an ex pilot for air india. So under their med insurance. Every 5 days someone has to go turn in paperwork personally to continue his benefits. No fax, email etc allowed only personally . Man lives alone @ age of 84. Both his sons & families live abroad. He also did not want to move to US. It Is making it so difficult for him who lives in Bandra and the offc where the paperwork has to be turned in is in so Bombay. Poor man is in coma and may die any day now. The corruption & red tape plus the power each level of empl hold is ridiculous.
Now before he went in to coma said he should hv moved to US when his son had insisted. Just bit too late. Money is there but so hard to find the proper help is hard .. Neways thought I share the latest what I heard from my close friend.What doc Onir may do for his sanskari tyaagi wifi or himself in switching babies is soo against medical ethics. He would hv his license taken away. What EK shows in her silly serials is nonsense.
Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000I would not give Indian medical treatment any status coz my experience of it is very very bad . I firmly believe that gaffes r there everywhere but in India there is almost no way to make a medical gaffe accountable .
My sister died on the operating table when she was in for a simple uterus removal procedure due to gross negligience by doctors . The anaesthesist had given her far too much anaesthesia and she could not recover consciousness as the reversal injection was given .The other doctors only tried to cover up for the anaesthesist and were tight lipped . We enquired and enquired and were told that the only punishment for such a serious gaffe was that the doctor's name would come in some medical journal and he will be admonished by some board of doctors ...then life would go on as it was for him .So after breaking our heads and knowing that we would never win in a civil court as the doctors refued to testify against each other, we went to the consumer's court as we wanted those doctors to pay . We finally won there but guess after how many years ? 12 years . By that time my sister's son , an only child had graduated and was earning .My mother was discharged from the hospital after some sickness and the blood thinner wafarin was not written down in the list of medications she was given as other medications made her blood thicken . This was an overlook error . Well , she had a brain stroke , suffered brain damage and died due to this unpardonable gaffe .No possibility of holding the hospital accountable and getting back to the US was a prority ...as schools had already begun .It is much easier to hold such medical gaffes accountable here ...in India there is no way of getting any justice . The corruption in hospitals is apalling . My mother's prolonged illness , my sister's death and my brother's stay many years ago [ he was in hospital for 6 months]have given me a horror of the hospitals there .But this is my experience and my POV.Speaking of PR ...Onir making the swap or agreeing to wifi's plan of the donation is highly unethical and he would lose his license here .
Originally posted by: AfssUpcoming track will be a torture. I think Mahaan Purvi (Kool di you should call Mahaan Purvi instead of Sanskari Purvi) will give away her baby to Ovi. And initially everyone won't know that Ovi had a misscarriage. They will know that Purvi had a misscarriage. Then everyone will console her. Aaji Sulo will message her feet. Teju will be more close to Purvi. And you know guys what will happen. Mahaan Purvi will enjoy this. We're lucky Archu won't be able to console her as she'll be missing.
And then if after some years the truth reveal that child is not Ovi's but Purvi's. Then what will happen. Everyone will start again Purvi's Mahaanta song. Manav will say "How can I thank you beta? If you were not there...". And other also sing this same song.
Ultimately Purvi will enjoy each and every moment. And we'll have to bear this torture. I think from now on torture track starts.
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