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Eid Milad un Nabi Mubarak to all muslim esp for you Zina...
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well... we don't celebrate Milad-un-Nabi as a proper Eid.. as it's not Eid.. but it's a muslim day to celebrate so we do.. and I believe that we should celebrate.. (this is MY POV)

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Posted: 26 January 2013 at 7:21am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Sarah98

Originally posted by -Zina-



The Holy Prophet of Islam and Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) was born on 12 Rabi-ul-Awwal . His birth took place in Makkah on a Monday in the house known as Dar Al-Mawlid, in the year of the Elephant, which corresponds to 571 C.E. Both his father, Abdullah Ibn Abdul Muttalib, and mother, Amina Bint Wahab, were well-known individuals. The Holy Prophet never knew his father, who had died in the months before his birth. It was left to his grandfather to name him Muhammad (s.a.w.). It is incumbent upon Muslims to know the importance of this noble Prophet (pbuh) and to abide by the Quran, which was revealed to him

Rabi'ul-Awwal is the most significant month in the Islamic history, because humanity has been blessed in this month by the birth of the Holy Prophet Muhammad , Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam. Before the birth of the Holy Prophet, (Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam), not only the Arabian peninsula, but also the so-called civilized nations of Rome and Persia were drowned in the darkness of ignorance, superstitions, oppression and unrest. The Holy Prophet, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, came with the eternal truth of Tawhid (Oneness of Allah), the only faith which provides a firm basis for the real concepts of knowledge, equity and peace. It was this faith which delivered humanity from ignorance and superstitions and spread the light of true knowledge all over the world.

1) Shereh Bukhari Imam Ahmad Qistalaani (radi Allahu anhu) states in his
most distinguished work "Mustataab Mawahibul Laduniyah" that Hazrat Imam
Zainul Aabideen (radi Allahu anhu) narrated from His father Hazrat Imam
Hussain (radi Allahu anhu) who narrated from His father Hazrat Ali Mushkil
Kusha (radi Allahu anhu) that the Beloved Prophet (Sall Allaho Alaihi Wa
Sallam) has stated," 14000 years before the creation of Hazrat Adam (Alaihis
Salaam) I was a Noor by my creator."


2) Hazrat Abu Bakr Siddique (radi Allahu anhu) says, "Whosoever spends one
dirham on the birthday (Moulood) of the Prophet (sall Allaho alaihi
wasallam), he will be with me in Jannat." (An Ne'matul Kubra)

3) The Beloved Prophet Hazrat Muhammad Mustafa Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi
wa Sallam celebrated his own Milad by having fast. When the Beloved Prophet
Muhammad Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam was asked about the fast of
Monday. He Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam said:

"I took birth and the Quran was revealed upon me in this day."
(Mishkat Sharif, Page 179)

4) The blessed and distinguished Sahabi-e-Rasool Hazrat Abu Hurairah (radi
Allahu anhu) states, "When the beloved Prophet (Sall Allaho Alaihi Wa
Sallam) used to smile then the walls would glow with his Noor."

(Mawahibul Laduniyah pg 271 vol 1, Anwaarul Muhammadiya pg 133, Shifa
Shareef pg 39, Hashia Shamail Tirmizi pg 16, Shara Shifa Mulla Ali Qaari,
Madarijun Nabuiwat (Persian) pg 12, Hujatullahi Alal Alameen pg 689)

5)Hadrat Abdullah Ibn Abbas Radi Allahu anhu reported that one day at his
home he was discussing with others the events of the birth of our beloved
Prophet Sayyedina Muhammad Mustufa Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam and
the listeners were enhanced by what they heard, they thanked Allah Subhanahu
wa Ta'ala and sent Durood upon our Beloved Prophet Sayyedina Muhammad
Mustufa Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam.
t that moment our Beloved Prophet S! ayyedina Muhammad Mustufa Salla Allahu
ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam came, to them suddenly and said to them,
" My Intercession for you is made accepted"
(Kitabul- Tanweer, p25)

6) It is reported in Tirmizi Shareef that the Prophet (sall Allaho alaihi
wasallam) was great in eyes and grand in heart. His face was brilliant,
shining like a full moon and was brightly coloured. His forehead was broad,
wide and the beard was thick."

7) It is on the authority of Hazrat Abu Moosa Ash'ari (radi Allahu anhu)
that the Prophet (sall Allaho alaihi wasallam) said, "I am Muhammad and
Ahmed and I am the one who came after all the Prophets (Khaatimun Nabiyeen)
and I am the one who will give Hashr to the creation (in other words all
will be present before the Prophet (sall Allaho alaihi wasallam) on
Maidaan-e-Hashr) and I am the Prophet of Mercy."

(Musnad Imam Ahmed - Muslim)

8) Hazrat Abi bin Ka'ab (radi Allahu anhu) reports that the Prophet (sall
Allaho alaihi wasallam) said, "On the day of Qiyamaah I will be the Leader
and Khatib of all the Ambia (Alaihimus Salaam) and I will be the master of
their intercession and I do not say this out of pride."

9) Hazrat Abdullah ibn Ka'ab (radi Allahu anhu) narrated: "I heard Kaab bin
Maalik (radi Allahu anhu) talking about his failure to join (the Ghazwa of)
Tabuk. He said, "When I greeted Allah's Nabi (sall Allaho alaihi wasallam) ,
his face was glittering with happiness, for whenever Allah's Messenger (sall
Allaho alaihi wasallam) was happy, his (blessed) face used to glitter, as if
it was a piece of the moon, and we used to recognise (his happiness) from
his face."
(Bukhari)

10) Hazrat Ali Radi Allahu anhu says, "Whosoever respects the Meelad
Shareef and is a means of motivating a Meelad gathering, He will take from
this world the gift of Imaan and He will enter Jannat without any
questioning." (An Ne'matul Kubra)


**************************************************
A Special Message from Ameer-e-Sunni Dawate Islami 
**************************************************

Maahe Rabi-un-Noor Mubarak!!! 
Assalam u Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu!

Hope you are well by the grace of Almighty Allah and the Blessings of His Beloved Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam).

The Blessed Month of Rabi-un-Noor has already begun. May Allah Subhanahu Wa taala make this month blessed for us.

Let us try to celebrate this Blessed Month in a unique way, a 7-point program mentioned below.

* Recite Durood Shareef 12000 times or at least 1200 times in 12 Days

* Recite 12 Sipaarahs of the Holy Quran or at least 12 Rukus in 12 Days

* Feed at least 12 needy.

* Visit at least 12 sick people and also try to arrange medicines for them.

* Try to arrange the gathering for Meelad-e-Mustafa (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) in the form of Noorie Mehfil.

* Visit places where the gatherings for Meelad-e-Mustafa (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) and Praise of the Beloved Prophet (Sallallahu Alaiahi Wasallam) are arranged in the form of Noorie Mehfils or Ijtemas.

* Decorate your residence and its surrounding with the special flags of Eid Meelad-un-Nabi (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) and enlighten it with attractive lights.

May Allah Taala make this month a great blessing for us.

--- Aameen.

Kaam Woh Le Lijiye! 
Tumko jo Raazi kare! 
Theek ho naame RAZA! 
Tumpe Karodo Durood! 

This is a Very Special day, Tomorrow Is 12 rabiul awal, and i pray with all my heart for all of you...!! stay blessed and have a great year! do pray for me, it's my faith that no dua is rejected on this special day!
Love YOU all
Hug
ZINA



Our prophet never celebrated his Birthday neither did his companions.
So who are we to do something which our prophet never did and which is not in Islam.
He was the last prophet and he completed Islam. We can't add any thing to it and neither remove.
Follow Sunnah and Quran, that's what the duty of every Muslim.




i don't agree with you dear, there is no proof of what you are saying if we will not celebrate the birthday of  our beloved Prophet then what for we are muslims!! well if you don't agree with this post then please don't comment here!!

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Posted: 26 January 2013 at 7:27am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Hessa85

Originally posted by hukshila

Assalam o Alaikum

The date of birth is not confirmed at 12th Rabiulawal but his death date is confirmed on 12th Rabi ul Awal and there is not doubt about the death date of being 12th Rabi ul Awal as our beloved Prophet Mohammad peace be upon Him's death date

CONTRADICTIONS FOR 12 RABI UL AWAL AS  BIRTH DATE OF OUR PROPHET MOHAMMAD PEACE BE UPON HIM


1    He was born on 10th Moharram (Guniat ul talbin by Abdul Qadir Jelani)
2    Born on 8th Rabi ul Awal  (Fatawa e Rizwia vol 28)
3    7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th or 12th rabil ul awal as date of birth is mentioned (there are actually 16 different sayings in Albidayah Walnahaya by Hafiz Ibn e Kathir, the writer of tafsir Ibn e Kathir whose tafsir e Qur'an is considered as most authentic tafsir ul Quran)  
4    Born on 12 Rabi ul Awal (sirata by Ibn e Hashaam)
5    Born on 9 Rabiul Awal (Alrhiq ul Makhtoom. The best award winning book in the world on seerat  in  a competition held in Saudia by Maulana Safi ur Rehman Mubarikpuri)
6    Born on 9th Rabiul Awal (Seerat ul Nabi by Shibli Naumani)
7    Born on 9th Rabiul Awal (Rehmat ul lil alameen by Sayed Suleman Mansoor)

Allah said in Surah Almaedah Verse 3
This day have I perfected your religion for you and completed My favour unto you, and have chosen for you as religion AL-ISLAM.

so when the religion has been completed why should we celebrate and fix this day as eid when We have not told about it? Even in wikipedia its mentioned its mention that it has been officially celebrated in12th century for the first time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mawlid#cite_note-Kaptein-p29-5

its the new invention in Islam, Prophet Peace be upon him strictly condemn any newly inventing thing in Islam and told that it is strictly unacceptable to invent any new thing. there is no eid in islam beisde Eid ul Fiter and Eid ul Adha

I have my own books of Ahadith, We can not find any single reference of celebrating Melad un Nabi from Mohammad Peace be upon him n his companions, indeed its an invention in religions n every invention is bida'ah. Masnad Ahmad 126/4, Abud Dawood 4607, more ahadith on the innovations and their rejection can be find in (Bukhari 2697, Muslim 1718,Bukhari 2697, Muslim 867, Bukhari Book 007, Number 3159, 3163)

PS. I m not forcing you or any one to leave if you still want to celebrate, you are responsible for your deeds and i am responsible for mine. I have just conveyed the message. NO OFFENSE TO ANY ONE PLS. IF any one is not agree or wants me to be agree for celebrating it, i just request to simply provide me with an authentic ref of "Only Quran and Hadith" and no useless/endless discussions or the ref from other  books of the particular sects.. Thanks in advance.

 
Salaam Alaikum
I am not a scholar, and I doubt most of us who watch and waste our lives away watching dramas and spending time on india-forums are scholars.  I do know the difference in beliefs is down to the aqeedah you follow.  Im aware the ahle sunnah wal jammah, (sunni muslims) tend to follow this path and the salafi/wahabi/movements have a differences in belief (and dont celebrate this).  One of those  beliefs relates to celebrating the birth of the Prophet peace be upon him.  I also know that theres several hadiiths and examples that dfferentate between a 'good' innovation and bad innovation.  A good innovation is one that does not conflict islamic teachings and in fact is a force of good.  A bad innovation is anything that goes against the teachings of islam.   
However,,,,If you want to discuss aqeedah and the merits of celebrating/not celebrating the milaad I would say discuss it with the people of knowledge...the scholars.  I would suggest people like sheikh al-yaqoubi, sheikh Ninowy, and in the indian subcontinent -people such as sheikh amin-ul-hasnaat.  These people have spent ther liives dedicated to learning and sharing the message of islam. sheikh al-yaqoubi is also a direct descendent of the Prophet (saw. They are well versed in the hadiith (understandng and implementation). I do not believe in citiing wikipedia as a reference for a discussion abo97ut Islam or the beloved prophet saw.
 
i would say if people love the prophet SAW ...let them celebrate.  in mawlid celebrations we talk about the prophet, islam, read the quran, read naats and send durood and salaam.  this to me is a beautiful thing.  
also debate is useless...because most of the time people are debatiing to please their ego and prove they are ultimately CORRECT and the other person is WRONG.  In the time of the Prophet and the ahle-bait, people had differences in opinion. But they talked about things ONLY for the sake of reaching the truth .  That cannot be done online, on india-forums.  It is just spreadng dividisions. and spreading divisions is spreading fitnah.
personally i think It is best to avoid this topic, because we struggle with the most basic of tenets of islam...modesty/haya in all forms, loving your neighbour, compassion, honesty, equality. half the world starves and the other half is oppressed.  we struggle to read namaaz and give zakat, we drink and sell alcochol,.  How can we ever be in a position to discuss other aspects of aqeedah when have not yet tackled the basics of what it means to be a muslim.


what so ever your views are it's better if you keep them to your own self!! i will take your words as humiliation towards me!! from 100% Muslims  97% percent believe that holy Prophert (P.B.U.H) was born on 12 rabii-ul-awal!! and you cannot teach me what is the right religion!! if you hve that much problem from the post then please stay away!! stop offending me!

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Posted: 26 January 2013 at 7:33am | IP Logged
Originally posted by -Zina-

Originally posted by Sarah98

Originally posted by -Zina-





Our prophet never celebrated his Birthday neither did his companions.
So who are we to do something which our prophet never did and which is not in Islam.
He was the last prophet and he completed Islam. We can't add any thing to it and neither remove.
Follow Sunnah and Quran, that's what the duty of every Muslim.




i don't agree with you dear, there is no proof of what you are saying if we will not celebrate the birthday of  our beloved Prophet then what for we are muslims!! well if you don't agree with this post then please don't comment here!!

well.. I agree with u @Zina.. and if people don't celebrate Eid-e-Milad un Nabi.. then they SHOULDN'T comment here as this thread is for all those muslim people who celebrate this day.. and u r not forced to comment here.. if u don't celebrate this day and think u should not.. then.. ok.. but pls do not share what u think here..

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Posted: 26 January 2013 at 7:37am | IP Logged
Originally posted by -Zina-

Originally posted by Hessa85

Originally posted by hukshila

Assalam o Alaikum

The date of birth is not confirmed at 12th Rabiulawal but his death date is confirmed on 12th Rabi ul Awal and there is not doubt about the death date of being 12th Rabi ul Awal as our beloved Prophet Mohammad peace be upon Him's death date

CONTRADICTIONS FOR 12 RABI UL AWAL AS  BIRTH DATE OF OUR PROPHET MOHAMMAD PEACE BE UPON HIM


1    He was born on 10th Moharram (Guniat ul talbin by Abdul Qadir Jelani)
2    Born on 8th Rabi ul Awal  (Fatawa e Rizwia vol 28)
3    7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th or 12th rabil ul awal as date of birth is mentioned (there are actually 16 different sayings in Albidayah Walnahaya by Hafiz Ibn e Kathir, the writer of tafsir Ibn e Kathir whose tafsir e Qur'an is considered as most authentic tafsir ul Quran)  
4    Born on 12 Rabi ul Awal (sirata by Ibn e Hashaam)
5    Born on 9 Rabiul Awal (Alrhiq ul Makhtoom. The best award winning book in the world on seerat  in  a competition held in Saudia by Maulana Safi ur Rehman Mubarikpuri)
6    Born on 9th Rabiul Awal (Seerat ul Nabi by Shibli Naumani)
7    Born on 9th Rabiul Awal (Rehmat ul lil alameen by Sayed Suleman Mansoor)

Allah said in Surah Almaedah Verse 3
This day have I perfected your religion for you and completed My favour unto you, and have chosen for you as religion AL-ISLAM.

so when the religion has been completed why should we celebrate and fix this day as eid when We have not told about it? Even in wikipedia its mentioned its mention that it has been officially celebrated in12th century for the first time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mawlid#cite_note-Kaptein-p29-5

its the new invention in Islam, Prophet Peace be upon him strictly condemn any newly inventing thing in Islam and told that it is strictly unacceptable to invent any new thing. there is no eid in islam beisde Eid ul Fiter and Eid ul Adha

I have my own books of Ahadith, We can not find any single reference of celebrating Melad un Nabi from Mohammad Peace be upon him n his companions, indeed its an invention in religions n every invention is bida'ah. Masnad Ahmad 126/4, Abud Dawood 4607, more ahadith on the innovations and their rejection can be find in (Bukhari 2697, Muslim 1718,Bukhari 2697, Muslim 867, Bukhari Book 007, Number 3159, 3163)

PS. I m not forcing you or any one to leave if you still want to celebrate, you are responsible for your deeds and i am responsible for mine. I have just conveyed the message. NO OFFENSE TO ANY ONE PLS. IF any one is not agree or wants me to be agree for celebrating it, i just request to simply provide me with an authentic ref of "Only Quran and Hadith" and no useless/endless discussions or the ref from other  books of the particular sects.. Thanks in advance.

 
Salaam Alaikum
I am not a scholar, and I doubt most of us who watch and waste our lives away watching dramas and spending time on india-forums are scholars.  I do know the difference in beliefs is down to the aqeedah you follow.  Im aware the ahle sunnah wal jammah, (sunni muslims) tend to follow this path and the salafi/wahabi/movements have a differences in belief (and dont celebrate this).  One of those  beliefs relates to celebrating the birth of the Prophet peace be upon him.  I also know that theres several hadiiths and examples that dfferentate between a 'good' innovation and bad innovation.  A good innovation is one that does not conflict islamic teachings and in fact is a force of good.  A bad innovation is anything that goes against the teachings of islam.   
However,,,,If you want to discuss aqeedah and the merits of celebrating/not celebrating the milaad I would say discuss it with the people of knowledge...the scholars.  I would suggest people like sheikh al-yaqoubi, sheikh Ninowy, and in the indian subcontinent -people such as sheikh amin-ul-hasnaat.  These people have spent ther liives dedicated to learning and sharing the message of islam. sheikh al-yaqoubi is also a direct descendent of the Prophet (saw. They are well versed in the hadiith (understandng and implementation). I do not believe in citiing wikipedia as a reference for a discussion abo97ut Islam or the beloved prophet saw.
 
i would say if people love the prophet SAW ...let them celebrate.  in mawlid celebrations we talk about the prophet, islam, read the quran, read naats and send durood and salaam.  this to me is a beautiful thing.  
also debate is useless...because most of the time people are debatiing to please their ego and prove they are ultimately CORRECT and the other person is WRONG.  In the time of the Prophet and the ahle-bait, people had differences in opinion. But they talked about things ONLY for the sake of reaching the truth .  That cannot be done online, on india-forums.  It is just spreadng dividisions. and spreading divisions is spreading fitnah.
personally i think It is best to avoid this topic, because we struggle with the most basic of tenets of islam...modesty/haya in all forms, loving your neighbour, compassion, honesty, equality. half the world starves and the other half is oppressed.  we struggle to read namaaz and give zakat, we drink and sell alcochol,.  How can we ever be in a position to discuss other aspects of aqeedah when have not yet tackled the basics of what it means to be a muslim.


what so ever your views are it's better if you keep them to your own self!! i will take your words as humiliation towards me!! from 100% Muslims  97% percent believe that holy Prophert (P.B.U.H) was born on 12 rabii-ul-awal!! and you cannot teach me what is the right religion!! if you hve that much problem from the post then please stay away!! stop offending me!

I agree again with u @Zina.. celebrating this day is what I learnt from my parents, relatives since I born.. and we3 celebrate this day with joy n happiness so please don't spoil our happy mood and atmosphere of the thread by ur thoughts.. 

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