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_Divya_ IF-Stunnerz

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Posted: 12 January 2013 at 2:28am | IP Logged
awesome topic! Thumbs Up

rnfandeboo Senior Member

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Posted: 12 January 2013 at 3:14am | IP Logged
the problem is that for some  men ,women are objects,utility, they don't think of women as human 
hindi movies,songs are somewhat(not totally) responsible  ...bcs in movies and songs a women's body is shown from top to bottom...the camera focuses on every part of her body as if she is something to eat,as if she is some kind of alien that everyone is curious abt...d the sad part is such movies/songs do very well in India...
in indian movies sex is always depicted as using of a woman's body by a man...just  as a  means of physical pleasure ... they never show it as a level, two mature,deeply in love,life partrnes take their relationship to...
girls are  eve teased by songs...why make  such songs which ppl can use to eve-tease girls...but I also know that  ppl 's mentality is responsible not songs.

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.Jane.. IF-Stunnerz

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Posted: 12 January 2013 at 4:17am | IP Logged
I'm tired of writing essays after essays on this topic so I will sum it up in brief. The cause and effect of rape is all to do with mentality. The rapist's animalistic mentality of viewing women as objects and then the society's patriarchal mentality of blaming the victim for it. The crime against women are so prevalent in societies which aren't sexually liberated and unfortunately, ours is one of them. That's all from me. Rest, everyone's come up with very valid points (=

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Gauravc_More48 IF-Rockerz

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Posted: 12 January 2013 at 4:26am | IP Logged
Awesome Topic Dear,
I would like to say a girl gets rape bcoz someone rapes her for wrong intentions.
A Girl does not get rape on Proactive clothes "The rape happens bcoz Our society has some Hyprocites doing this business",I would also say to the Boys " Stop calling Girls as Item,Chamiya n all useless names".It Conveys that your families had brought up you for all this.
Being a Boy i m ashamed of my country,culture n government.
Regards Gaurav,
Thanks for opening such beautiful thread for debate.

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DianaPrince IF-Sizzlerz

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Posted: 12 January 2013 at 4:32am | IP Logged
it's all the mentality of the criminal which is fill with filth.

the victim will never invite the person to come and do whatever he wants. it's stupid how people blame the victim. Most people blame the woman for everything.

Edited by LadyDabangg - 12 January 2013 at 4:33am
ZAHARA. IF-Rockerz

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Posted: 12 January 2013 at 7:55am | IP Logged
Who is responsible for rape? 

It is that person and that person alone who has the thought to do such disgusting thing. Sure, you can argue that the media or peers can influence them but why is the law so lenient to let them go? I live in the UK and even my mum says that no one looks at one another like that. Many girls I see go out wearing clothing that show skin but they don't get raped, similarly many men often go out shirtless if it's too hot. Nothing happens to them. And why? Because the law on rape in strict here. Therefore it's easy for one to prosecute the other in these circumstances.

Another point is that here in the UK even if there is domestic violence, even if the woman says that nothing is happening (although they may be some abuse) the police are still entitled to take action if they think so. Same as child abuse, children who undergo physical, mental or God forbid sexual abuse, there is strict consequences against that. Hence I hardly hear about such things because the norm here is to not do things like that, (although there still are some cases but it's not as wide known IMO).

So who is responsible for rape? It's the society. If Indian society was not so lenient against rapists then people would not dare to even think such a thing. After hearing about this Delhi Rape Case, I also heard how the court/society are considering other factors somewhat defending the rapists (I'm not too sure about the actual facts) but seriously? They should be without any second thought, publicly shamed and punished. 

You see, if they go free or if the law even slows their punishment then people would think that it's easy to get through with rape. Therefore, the law should and I mean SHOULD punish them as soon as possible so that others see that rape is not something to be permissible or pardoned. It's disgusting and unlawful.

It's not the parents fault, not the media's fault (because heck, western television have so much more than Indian television) and it's definitely not the poor girl's fault. It's the rapists themselves and the society that allows them.

I probably will expand when I have the time but that's my two cents. 

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crazy2012 IF-Rockerz

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Posted: 12 January 2013 at 9:21am | IP Logged
Well, to say about the topic first of all I want to say that with the progress of our lifestyle and technology, we are leaving behind our culture, tradition behind. Today, we claim ourselves as modern human being but we are still living in the era of stone age by mind. Is it out fault or else???

We are civilised human being, social person - everyday we are mixing with various people. If a girl goes out, she has to go through the worng remarks, or bad eyes of different people . In workplace also, she has face various challenges. Boss wants to get some physical intimacy if she wants her work recognition..everyday brings new complex challenges for her...

Edited by crazy2012 - 12 January 2013 at 10:36am

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-Inferno- Goldie

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Posted: 12 January 2013 at 9:55am | IP Logged

This tops everything. This is the root of everything. The things that are set in the minds of some men and women can not be changed so easily. Here rapes are occurring and women are being abused yet some people think that us women are at fault. But, then again some women leaders have also sided the men and said that it's the girl who is at fault. What are we to do when our own mothers and sisters are not by our side. How can we even blame the men when the people raising them are not supporting us.
The solution lies on where and how can we change the way people think, from younger generation to the older generation. The protests help against the government, but not against the mentality. And even when people are protesting, in offices, at home, women are still being looked down upon.

Media, Video Games, Movies
Though the might not be the root of the problem, they portray the mentality of the people of India. I am not going blame the movies for the sensual scenes however, I will blame them for the way they portray women.

Law, Political System
The less I say is better about our politicians and law makers as we already know their true faces. But, the fact that the people aren't scared of the law and people within the system are sexists themselves doesn't help. If such crimes are continued, stricter laws need to be passed. Having said that, corruption is also something that plays in.

Edited by -3raser- - 12 January 2013 at 9:54am

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