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Posted: 16 January 2013 at 10:26pm | IP Logged
this died out too soon... expected it to continue sum more...

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RatiG

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Posted: 17 January 2013 at 5:57am | IP Logged
Mentality
because every time all the edicats are taught to girls not boys..
girls are taught
- to wake up early
-not eat before bathing
- bath daily
-to pray daily
-wear cloths properly
-talk properly
-walk properly
-have respect for everyone
-not to say a word when someone say anything to them
-not to react when people pass comments
-to ignore when some guys sees u as if they have first time seen a girl
-to come home till 7
-not to stay at friends home late night
-no late night parties
-not to go out with boys alone
- keep quite even if they feel that someone is wrong
... and the list can go on and on

but boys are given full freedom...girls are taught to keep quite so they do
and boys are taught that they have right to do anything

people learn from their home and friends
no police can do anything if individuals dont do anything

girls are not raped by police or politicians or public they are raped by men ...and men should change...they should learn to respect women

and women should have dignity that they dont complain false complains against anyone under any circumstances 
as because of some every girl's complain is considered same

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Posted: 17 January 2013 at 8:51am | IP Logged
Girls does not get raped due to her clothes or provocative acts! It's happen due to our society low mantlity. We need to change our mantility. 

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Posted: 17 January 2013 at 11:00am | IP Logged
Its simple yar... girls wants to wear short skirts then let them wear. it is not a reason to rape.
We boys can also wear half-pants & walk on the road.
As far as the word provoking is concerned, they are not coming to us & saying hot words like Sunny Leone.

Although i would also like to add that India culture is a great culture & we should not forget it. 
Modern are those who love their nation & their values not those who follow others.

whitewitch

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Posted: 17 January 2013 at 7:18pm | IP Logged
indian patriach system who supports female infacticide. they dont want girl child still they need woman to satisfy their needs

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Posted: 17 January 2013 at 9:26pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by RatiG

Mentality
because every time all the edicats are taught to girls not boys..
girls are taught
- to wake up early
-not eat before bathing
- bath daily
-to pray daily
-wear cloths properly
-talk properly
-walk properly
-have respect for everyone
-not to say a word when someone say anything to them
-not to react when people pass comments
-to ignore when some guys sees u as if they have first time seen a girl
-to come home till 7
-not to stay at friends home late night
-no late night parties
-not to go out with boys alone
- keep quite even if they feel that someone is wrong
... and the list can go on and on

but boys are given full freedom...girls are taught to keep quite so they do
and boys are taught that they have right to do anything

people learn from their home and friends
no police can do anything if individuals dont do anything

girls are not raped by police or politicians or public they are raped by men ...and men should change...they should learn to respect women

and women should have dignity that they dont complain false complains against anyone under any circumstances 
as because of some every girl's complain is considered same



Wow!! Shocked This is what my mom expects of me!! Most of it is correct!! OuchSmile And I hate that!! Ouch


Shreya

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Posted: 18 January 2013 at 7:54am | IP Logged

Rape- the definition itself tells that it is an act to show power. This act just does not harm any lady physically but also mentally and morally. She starts cursing her own self for the act in which she was not responsible at all.

The big question is what is the driving factor here? Westernization, alcohol, media, clothes or mindset.  But there are factors above and beyond those along with the factors stated here.

Inequality along with mentality/psychological issues/media

India is one of the countries where equality between men and women was given importance before the modern times. If you look at our epics and history- women were treated equal. I know one of my friends has brought in the points from Ramayan here but that is another debate and hence will not respond to that here.

Somehow with time when did boy become more important than girl no one knows. With this mentality of higher importance all their mistakes were considered as pardonable. Since childhood families had put this seed in mind of the kid that boy or male child is more important than girl or female child. This seed nurtures up depending on the environment it gets.  Due to this importance he starts developing the ego.  This ego is shattered once that individual goes out in real world and faces the hardship and failures. Failure be it of getting admission in his fav college, doing what he wants to do, losing chance to excel, etc, etc.  Even our government is doing enough harm to these individuals in the name of reservation, politics, etc.  and media unki to baat hi niralee hain they make sure that people wake up with the negative news and instead of debating positives of society they start discussing negatives and failures.

Instead of fighting  with outside world that individual becomes a failure. Ab mard hain mardangi to jatani hain to kya kare?

With women in power and at many places ahead of men; they take out all frustration be it under the influence of alcohol or in the name of clothes or even worst at times they just want to show women their place since they think them as a threat on their manhood.  

Skewed Gender Ratio:

In order to have male child more and more girl child are aborted. The result more and more man are deprived of wives. This imbalance in society has brought in big issues like passing comments as a road side romeo or harassing women. It's a stated fact that sex too is an important part of any living being. Since we do not follow jungle rule we have society in which a man and woman are married in order to satisfy their natural need. Even between couples when they do not indulge in this activity for long they are frustrated and they will indulge in activities that are not acceptable as husband or wife. So think of those who are totally deprived due to the fact that they do not get a woman for marriage. How frustrated would that man be?

So what does he do? The man who is a weak individual will give in to his instinct and will make prey to the first woman/lady he finds.

Is this acceptable? Absolutely no? Am I defending them? No? 


Media, alcohol and westernization may be held responsible but not sole responsible for this act. If that is the case then the most rape should occur in the bars and in high society where in name of fashion woman shows more skin then their brains and last but not least it should occur in the cinema halls or at home after watching those scenes. 

Parents need to teach their girl child to defend them and make use of their sixth sense.  Proper use of pepper spray should be taught to them as well. Instead of telling them that they are abala nari and this is their fate make them stand up for themselves as well.


RatiG

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Posted: 18 January 2013 at 8:33am | IP Logged
Originally posted by spate22

Originally posted by RatiG

Mentality
because every time all the edicats are taught to girls not boys..
girls are taught
- to wake up early
-not eat before bathing
- bath daily
-to pray daily
-wear cloths properly
-talk properly
-walk properly
-have respect for everyone
-not to say a word when someone say anything to them
-not to react when people pass comments
-to ignore when some guys sees u as if they have first time seen a girl
-to come home till 7
-not to stay at friends home late night
-no late night parties
-not to go out with boys alone
- keep quite even if they feel that someone is wrong
... and the list can go on and on

but boys are given full freedom...girls are taught to keep quite so they do
and boys are taught that they have right to do anything

people learn from their home and friends
no police can do anything if individuals dont do anything

girls are not raped by police or politicians or public they are raped by men ...and men should change...they should learn to respect women

and women should have dignity that they dont complain false complains against anyone under any circumstances 
as because of some every girl's complain is considered same



Wow!! Shocked This is what my mom expects of me!! Most of it is correct!! OuchSmile And I hate that!! Ouch


Shreya
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