Debate : Who is Respnsible? (Page 13)

i agree these things do provoke but they didn't give men a lisence to habendum  law & justice & rape womens.provocative act by modern women or pop culture cause rape it is a statement of sick mind there are cases of female child rape,womens in villages are raped too who dosen't belong to any pop culture nor done any provocative act.why we womens not hear any such statement from a group of girls '' the modern provocative act of the modern boy cause rape''.

What exactly is the root cause according to you?

poor very very poor law & security is the main reason to let such incidents happen.goverment should wakeup & take insiatives to stop such shameful acts.there should be only death panelty for rapist.if the rape is done in public places the rapiest should be hang to death in public..
public ignorence specialy womens ignorence.every women face it we face it every day abusive acts, lewd comments,lustful eyes. first we get scared of it then later we start ingnoring them & finaly we become use of it.why??? even in public places when some nasty comments were passed most of girls ignore & say don't want to creat a scene &public just stand like dummies to watch & say we can't risk our life. why not to stop it on the first place.how many of us acted in such situation to defend our respect.even people are afraid to make a poloice call in these situations.our silence give them courage & today we are being targeted by these sick minds. i wish a law too pass against such dummies who just stand & watch.as a human we should know our responsibility & act.

since the day the world is created evil & good is present. so there is no way to stop rape permanetaly but we can discuss the things which will decrease the cases & such incidents to happen.

Death panelty for rapist

after this case a example should be set to make these sick mind think 1000 time before attempt rape.only death panelty for rapist.


No alcohol

why only drugs are banned alcohol should be also banned.  drunkers should not be allowed on public places like roads,busstand ,parks,cinemas they even shouldn't allowed to travel or take a taxi or auto.any person drunk should not be allowed to outdoors. it dosen't matter he/she is enough consious or not.if bunch of drunkers are found on any place immediate call should be make to police to catch them before they cause any trouble.
i don't understand the liquid poison which snach your senses of humanity & give you dieases like cancer is allowed it should be banned.

every girl should learn self defence

we are working whith shoulder to shoulder with the mens in any field we are not behind them but a fact we can't deny mens are physicaly stronger then womens. i request please every girls should learn self defence. women self defence should be teached to girls in school level as a subject. if you are a mother,father,brother or a elder sister please make sure your daughters your sisters learn self defence even if your are a house wife or over 30 its never too late to learn.if you can afford self defence classes fees well enough but if you can't you can learn it through internet.it gives you self confidence it make you physicaly capable to deal with hard situations.i my self is a green belt & Krav Maga trained by my brother.

respect women dignity

Every culture was influenced.thats how it evolved.but yes transition does appear frustrating..as some take the worst out of both.
as a women we know how to carry our selves.we know our culture & traditions we follow them & respect them. so as a women respect your dignity.

whether it be a girl or a boy 

so the fact that people claim he/she asked for or provoked it is highly illogical 

the terms "she asked me to have SEX with her" is way different from "she asked me to RAPE her"

and i think any educated person would know the difference 

so i dont understand what reason people have to proclaim that the person RAPED and i would like to emphasize that word, asked for it or provoked it 

ive heard this term a lot in such cases which is why im setting straight my opinion on it.

at the end of the day it all comes down to one's mentality, morals, knowledge and ethnicity

also i would like to point out that media and the environment a person is raised in play a factor in the knowledge aspect 

~zozo

 

I think the first is mind set but its not about respecting woman but the fact that girls and boys are treated so differently. I mean when a girl turns 12 from then her mother is like you need to learn how to cook, clean, iron etc... And I am like no Indian mother goes to her son to learn how to do any of this. I mean what guy here on IF can say their mother took them into the kitchen and taught them how to make roti's - or any sort of food? 

Just cause he is a boy he doesn't have to do all this - I mean I know for a fact, when I have to I will be able to do all these things and even if my roti's aren't round I will survive but my mum is like you need to learn... 

Why is it that the daughter is told to go into the kitchen my a mother but never a son? Shouldn't he be self-sufficient as well? 

And if a boy does do all of this why does he get called a chumma? or Mummy's boy? 

The thing is it works both ways - boys have pressures girls have pressures, why is there no middle ground? Why are we so stuck upon Gender Roles from the 19th Century? I mean now woman go to work, run a household, raise their kids and have time for a social life, so why can society not see that? 

Next factor clothing! What is decent clothing? I mean if girls drool over guys who are topless, guys do the same over girls! I am sorry but every guy has seen a Playboy or FHM magazine, and I think trying to avoid the issue and hide the issue makes it a bigger issue... Like making sex a taboo so everything is done secretly, making it more open in society might not be the worse thing ever, I am sorry but India's 1 billion population didn't come from a stork! 

And blaming films and songs isn't the right way to go about it, the fact is the movies make this money because it is the only acceptable to bring the topic into society and I am sorry to say this but sex sells and there is nothing wrong with that... there is enough academic literate about attraction both genders do it... And also I am sorry but there is the internet and any smart 12 year old kid can access po*n. 

But there is a fine line between a compliment and harassment. 
I mean a girl can walk down the street and have a car horn hoot at you and drive on by, its happened to me and I don't mind it usually makes me smile as I walk on down cause its a nice compliment, but then a step to far is if they stop and try and talk to you, cause at that point you are like leave me alone and panic. 

And that is it if a girl dresses nicely and you compliment her fine but when she starts getting uncomfortable then it becomes awkward and worse esp in a club where you have to try and get away, I mean always helpful to have a guy friend there to be like his my boyfriend but it unnerves you... (From personal experience this happened to me and my friends went out for a night, met with friends friends etc... and it was all fine till the end of the night cause one of the guys really liked my friend and we kind of managed to get out of the club and get a taxi back home without that guy realising, but what happened was someone else gave him our road name and my friends phone number, lucky when we got back my friend went to bed and feel asleep (switched her phone off) and I got really hungry so me and my other flatmate decide to go and see if the chip guy was still open at around 3.30 in the morning, but walking down our street that guy was there in his car at the top of our street, me and my friend geniuenly had to hide ourselves and we walked the long way home just incase he decide to follow us to find out where we lived.)

And I know guys feel the same awkwardness when they are sometimes hit on by girls and if the girl gets too clingly they do want to get a way guys don't like it the same way girls don't like it, 

But it is projected in two different ways, if the attraction is mutual or they hook up... Guys become a hero, girls become a s**t?!?!? 

Though that is one other thing why is that girls have to be careful? Why can't it be safe for them to be out at night? Why do they have to be back home at a certain time but a boy can be out as late as he wants and comes back when he wants? Why should girls have to feel the need to learn to protect themselves when they live in an equal democratic society? 

But I think the biggest disappointment in this whole rape crisis is, the reaction of religious leaders, to politicians to some women. They all blamed the victim... She should not have been out, she shouldn't have worn such clothes, she shouldn't have gotten on that bus, I mean just cause she is an everyday person it doesn't matter, I mean if it was a politician's daughter or someone with some influence do you think the reaction would have been the same? 

And the whole aftermath - I mean people just continued walking on in the streets and left the victim there for two hours, I am sorry but with India where is the need to help a stranger, I mean most of the time we all walk on and past incidents but I know for once when someone truly needs help I will always step up, even if it is just helping someone to the bus stop with all their shopping bags. 

Society needs to re-evaluate its ideals, because Gender Roles aren't the same now days. Its time to move forward with the times! 

why, its always agirl , hv to face the worst of all in this society???why cant it be safe for the girls like boys? why, if  a boy comes home at late night, his mom - dad wont say anything, mostly bcoz they dnt hv to think abt his safety.why cant this country be safe for girls too, irrespective of the time and place???? and the most imp part is, if its nt now, then when??? when it will be safe???

already our country is on a race for female foeticide, child labour, dowry, sexual harrassment, taunting in streets, and many crime, mostly related to child and woman, mainly due to we know from our culture that girls are always less weak than boys.i agree, may be we are nt powerful physically, bt we are also nt their slaves that they will use and abuse us like this.rape, change it all.its easy to say, that after rape, after if she get justice, she will lead a normal life.but as a girl i think, and i know, she cant.she will still fear to go outside, fear to look at a man, fear to trust,. her whole life will be based on fear.that horrible incident wont erase from her memory.and the worst part is, the talks of her surroundings people.

when i roamed around on internet during delhi incident, i came across many sympathetic tweets, fb page, blogs.bt always one questions come in my mind, we all support that girl.but what if we know that girl is none other than our neighbour's daughter? what will we do? initially, we all support them, console them.bt after some days, we will start to find the reason she get raped. if she was outside for late hours? if she was characterless and surrendered herself? if she was a prostitute and doing this coz she hv nt received exact money? does nt it is the worst of this all???the thinking that she was raped, mey be there was some reason.

may be i am getting of topic, the topic was why is rape happening? i think rape happens, first of all, moral degradation, thn bcoz our country's law is nt powerful.moral degradation is nt only of those scamheads who commited that, of the police offiicers and the soceity too who blame the girl instead of those who responsible. rape, harassment, only can be stopped, if our govt. make strong law, and make some examples that rape or harassmnts wont be tolerate.. and secondly, we hv to change our mentality.nt to show our support on social network, we hv to show support to the housemaid who always get bashed in her workplace, or our colleague, who get harassed by her boss.support, fight only can stop this crimes.also, we hv to teach our youngers, boys, girls, to respect person, irrespective of gender, as a man.and if our elders also wrong, change their attitude too.help the girl to whom some roadside romeo is taunting.help support and fight it together. it will surely change it all.

i am really ashamed that i am and indian, and scared to be a girl. i hv promised myself , that i wont tolerate any abuse to me, or to any other girl. i will surely help any girl in problem, if any other person is nt helping her. will fight and die rather than sit and thinking what our country have become.

and to guys who thnk girls as their father's property to abuse