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Posted: 11 January 2013 at 10:28am | IP Logged
Let's take a look at the leaders in US.

You have Romney who was a right wing, tea party republican.

You have Obama who is left wing, progressive democrat.

Do you think either of them would compromise the security of the country ? Would they tip toe  around the issues and lie to their people ? 

The answer is NO!

But in our country, we have seen leaders on all sides of the political spectrum tip toe around the issues, lie and compromise.

It's a moral problem, not a political/religious ideology problem !

China's communist party is far left, do you think they would compromise and bow down ?





Edited by silverbug - 11 January 2013 at 10:34am

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Posted: 11 January 2013 at 12:27pm | IP Logged

@Silverbug, just a few quick points-

 

1) In the current age, I don't see any political leader without flaws. The Congress party which claims to be secular, until recently was an ally of the MIM, the party which Akbaruddin Owaisi belongs too. Owaisi has had a history of making hate speeches against Hindus, but even more shocking is the fact that the MIM had sided with the Nizam and opposed the amalgamation of Hyderabad into India (if my information is correct). And it wasn't even the Congress who broke the alliance, it was the MIM!

 2) The sad truth about India is that the only way that the BJP can defeat the Congress is if the BJP appoints Modi as its Prime Ministerial candidate. The reason being, Modi is seen as a figure who could cause extreme polarization of Hindu voters and get them out to vote. And let's accept the fact that no other party besides the BJP is in any position to challenge the Congress.

 3) Advani has only fought elections on the basis of religion. Contrast that with Modi, who fought the recent election on the plank of development. Not only that, he was pitted against the Congress, Keshubhai Patel and even the RSS/VHP (not to mention the anti-incumbency factor). The fact that he still managed to win close to 2/3rds majority says a lot about how Gujarat sees him.

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Posted: 11 January 2013 at 12:47pm | IP Logged

@Silverbug, if you want to know my views on the Aam admi party, I'm all for it. Atleast they chose to take the democratic route, which Anna Hazare should've taken as well. The biggest problem with us Indians is that we'll back Anna Hazare's agitation against corruption, but the moment he decides to join politics, we'll be the first one to criticize him. I mean, how the hell is someone supposed to clean the system without entering it? If Kejriwal has decided to join politics, it's fine with me as long as he remains clean.

And as for the government, it is hopelessly out of touch with reality. It'll restrict social media, it'll beat up non-violect anti-corruption protestors,it'll use tear gas on students protesting against rape, it'll continue rewarding people accused of major scams and it'll also reprimand its own army men for giving the enemy a fitting reply. What it will NOT do is to make cities safer, crack down on corruption, punish rapists severely (even if they are minors) and make it clear to Pakistan that we will not take infiltration and inhumane treatment of our soldiers lightly.
 
Silverbug also made a point about Gujaratis leaving Gujarat to go abroad. In my opinion, that does not necessarily demonstrate sub standard governance. It demonstrates that the idea of 'foreign lands full of money' still holds promise in our minds.
Personally, I used to live in Mumbai. And while I admit that Mumbai is one of the better cities of the world, I think the quality of Post graduate education is generally poor barring the IITs and IIMs. I mean for my field of Molecular Biology/Biochemistry/ Microbiology there is hardly any money available for Research purposes in government or private colleges. So I decided to move to Canada, and I think the quality of education here is really good. 


Edited by sharpshooter - 11 January 2013 at 12:52pm

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Posted: 11 January 2013 at 12:51pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by sharpshooter

@Silverbug, just a few quick points-

 

1) In the current age, I don't see any political leader without flaws. The Congress party which claims to be secular, until recently was an ally of the MIM, the party which Akbaruddin Owaisi belongs too. Owaisi has had a history of making hate speeches against Hindus, but even more shocking is the fact that the MIM had sided with the Nizam and opposed the amalgamation of Hyderabad into India (if my information is correct). And it wasn't even the Congress who broke the alliance, it was the MIM!

 2) The sad truth about India is that the only way that the BJP can defeat the Congress is if the BJP appoints Modi as its Prime Ministerial candidate. The reason being, Modi is seen as a figure who could cause extreme polarization of Hindu voters and get them out to vote. And let's accept the fact that no other party besides the BJP is in any position to challenge the Congress.

 3) Advani has only fought elections on the basis of religion. Contrast that with Modi, who fought the recent election on the plank of development. Not only that, he was pitted against the Congress, Keshubhai Patel and even the RSS/VHP (not to mention the anti-incumbency factor). The fact that he still managed to win close to 2/3rds majority says a lot about how Gujarat sees him.


I always had a bad, bad feeling about MIM and it made me sick how Congress was allied to them. These people in my opinion are only a notch above SIMI and that's only because they put on a face for the public.

I knew for a FACT that BOTH owaisi brothers (not just Akbaruddin) are extremists. You have libtards like Sagarika Ghose (who only got a job because shes related to Pranab Roy) saying that "I don't think Asad can speak like this". Mark my words, people will realize one day that even Asasuddin is exactly like his younger brother.I saw a speech of him calling Jews cursed and dirty race of people, Do you think he holds Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, or even Shias and other minority Muslims in high regard ?


I only hope that one day all the skeletons of all parties and politicians come out for everyone to see in the open. Including Modi, Advani, Sonia, Manmohan, Lalu, Mulayam etc.





Edited by silverbug - 11 January 2013 at 12:51pm

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Posted: 11 January 2013 at 12:56pm | IP Logged
I will read some of your posts later. Gotta go.
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Posted: 12 January 2013 at 1:24am | IP Logged
This is seriously so upsetting!:(
RIP to our martyrs.

How can one be so harsh to another fellow being?

And can people please shut it with the arguments? Its a life lost here.

PS: Did somebody show disrespect towards our soldiers? Seriously GO GET A LIFE.Dead


Edited by Aishh. - 12 January 2013 at 1:30am

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Posted: 12 January 2013 at 2:24am | IP Logged
What is this political impotentants doing... After every incident like Parliment attack , Mumbai attack , killing of Indian soldiers these political leaders telling we didnt allow to derail peace process... Peace process for whom ? Who is getting benifit for that ?... The lose is for there family & friends . Govt is telling if conflict start it will affect economy... . Govt is always on our opposite side is it for delhi rape case or Indian soldiers case... Govt want to impress somebody... I would like to ask to these political idiots if your son or daughter is killed in this way you also do the same way .
 
 


Edited by Prometeus - 12 January 2013 at 2:21am

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Posted: 13 January 2013 at 7:13pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Prometeus

<font color="#0066ff">What is this political impotentants doing... After every incident like Parliment
attack , Mumbai attack , killing of Indian soldiers these political leaders
telling we didnt allow to derail peace process... Peace process for whom ? Who is
getting benifit for that ?... The lose is for there family & friends . Govt is
telling if conflict start it will affect economy... . Govt is always on our
opposite side is it for delhi rape case or Indian soldiers case... Govt want to
impress somebody...I would like toask to these political idiots if your son or daughter is
killed in this way you also do the same way .</font>



It's our fault Prom. After all we gave them 2 consecutive terms Cry

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