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Posted: 10 January 2013 at 11:22am | IP Logged
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Posted: 10 January 2013 at 11:58am | IP Logged
Originally posted by sharpshooter

Originally posted by guess_wh0

Originally posted by sharpshooter

The worst part is that as we debate here, 11 CRPF jawans have been killed by Maoists..the bodies of these jawans were found mutilated as well...but the worst part is, these barbarians planted explosives in the intestines of our jawans so that their thirst for killing more and more people is satisfied..
 
My question is, where are those Humans rights activists who don't miss a single chance to condemn the killing of Maoists?


Wow!

This is getting disgusting! Dirtier and dirtier by the minute. About time India did something about this, other than lowering their flag.

RIP
 
Well ofcourse...our great government has condemned it Dead
 
FAIL!


The onus is on the people to not re-elect them.

We get the government we choose.

I'm not saying that the opposing party is not corrupt, but at least we deserve an alternative to the status quo we have had since 47. And besides, there are third party alternatives as well. We are basically under one party, one family dictatorship. This is not democracy. Like I said, doing same thing over and over with expectation of different result is madness.

At this moment, it is utmost priority to get rid of this government because they are compromising our security whether it is internal or external threats.



Edited by silverbug - 10 January 2013 at 11:57am

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Posted: 10 January 2013 at 7:51pm | IP Logged
I'm afraid silverbug that the BJP Government wasn't any better..remember Atal Behari Vajpayee started the bus diplomacy and Kargil happened immediately after that...maybe the only hope we have is someone like Modi...the rest of BJP seems equally bad.

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Posted: 10 January 2013 at 8:26pm | IP Logged
It's shameful that India is being soft on such matters. Harsh and strong action has to be taken. We can't just allow ourselves to be sitting ducks here.

Public outcry is also necessary to put more pressure on government. The masses remain indifferent to such issues and government's lax approach thrives on their ignorance.

People must give government its just desserts in election time.

RIP to martyrs and condolences to their families. It must be seen that families of martyred soldiers are rehabilitated properly.

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Posted: 10 January 2013 at 8:53pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by sharpshooter

I'm afraid silverbug that the BJP Government wasn't any better..remember Atal Behari Vajpayee started the bus diplomacy and Kargil happened immediately after that...maybe the only hope we have is someone like Modi...the rest of BJP seems equally bad.

My point is  - Yes BJP is bad but you rather have Congress in power ? How has that worked out for us so far ? Let's try something different then.

Bus diplomacy is useless I agree, lets stop beating around the bush. 

Atal was in his 70s when he became the leader, that's another problem. We only put those in power that are senile.  But Atal was still more of a leader than Manmohan is, that's for sure. 

I can't really back Modi, I have reservations about his role in Gujurat riolts. I  have heard accounts from Gujuratis themselves which makes me uncomfortable.

India doesn't have a Hindu/Muslim problem. It has a class problem. It has to do with far too few having much too much and way too many having much too little. The ones who have little are turning into depraved monsters like Naxalites and terrorists across the country. Sometimes I find it hard to blame them, with the way things are why do we expect a different outcome ?


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Posted: 10 January 2013 at 10:43pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by silverbug

Originally posted by sharpshooter

I'm afraid silverbug that the BJP Government wasn't any better..remember Atal Behari Vajpayee started the bus diplomacy and Kargil happened immediately after that...maybe the only hope we have is someone like Modi...the rest of BJP seems equally bad.


My point is - Yes BJP is bad but you rather have Congress in power ? How has that worked out for us so far ? Let's try something different then.

Bus diplomacy is useless I agree, lets stop beating around the bush.

Atal was in his 70s when he became the leader, that's another problem. We only put those in power that are senile. But Atal was still more of a leader than Manmohan is, that's for sure.

I can't really back Modi, I have reservations about his role in Gujurat riolts. I have heard accounts from Gujuratis themselves which makes me uncomfortable.

India doesn't have a Hindu/Muslim problem. It has a class problem. It has to do with far too few having much too much and way too many having much too little. The ones who have little are turning into depraved monsters like Naxalites and terrorists across the country. Sometimes I find it hard to blame them, with the way things are why do we expect a different outcome ?



But wasn't Rajiv Gandhi the Prime Minister when he and the Congress encouraged anti-Sikh riots? I think no leader in modern India has the ability to turn this around like Modi does..despite all the negative publicity that he receives for the Gujarat riots, he has manged to tremendously improve infrastructure in the State...Gujarat has more or less become a success story..

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Posted: 10 January 2013 at 10:45pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Skepblun

It's shameful that India is being soft on such matters. Harsh and strong action has to be taken. We can't just allow ourselves to be sitting ducks here.

Public outcry is also necessary to put more pressure on government. The masses remain indifferent to such issues and government's lax approach thrives on their ignorance.

People must give government its just desserts in election time.

RIP to martyrs and condolences to their families. It must be seen that families of martyred soldiers are rehabilitated properly.


I think the only deterrent are Pakistani Nuclear weapons..they're worried about a nuclear war breaking out..but tensions are escalating along the LOC with fresh rounds of fire being traded.
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Posted: 11 January 2013 at 4:03am | IP Logged
Originally posted by TheBoss

Dude,
War is not the only thing that made the US what they are; their technology, their economy, their welfare, their education, abolishment of slavery, discrimination, addressing health issues, and a wide plethora of other things is what made the US what it is.

I love living my American dream and Im proud of it, until India steps up and addresses the pressing issues at hand instead of fighting over some stupid piece of land and sending people to death there is a whole lot that needs to be done.

You're appallingly ignorant and uneducated. Go and spend some time studying the history of the Kashmir Conflict. India has a legitimate and historical claim over the land; it isn't a "stupid war over a stupid piece of land". It has a very complex bearing on the question of Indian sovereignty and National respect. And honey, there's no bogeyman----I expect you to be educated about the TWO times India was attacked over Kashmir by Pakistan, AND the unnamed millions of civilians that have been murdered in Kashmir and elsewhere in India by cross-border infiltrators since time immemorial. These are flesh-and-blood realties, not some conspiracy theory or "bogeyman" with no base in reality that you wax ignorant about. And did you say that what the soldiers do doesn't touch our lives in any way? Are you serious?

This ain't the United States where you can bring up the "bogeyman factor" in a Debate, this is INDIA, with a very different history and political circumstance than the US and its wars. India is facing a proxy war with its neighbouring state which has nurtured fanatical religious elements that have killed more than a billion Indians since 1950. That isn't a bogeyman, that's a real issue we face everyday; unlike the US which has only been the aggressor toward States that refused to pander to its economic interests. How can you wave the "bogeyman" here? You need to come out from your constricted, cocooned world-view---US ain't the WHOLE WORLD.

Tip: Next time you come over to debate on something, make sure you KNOW what you're going on about.



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