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Posted: 06 January 2013 at 12:14am | IP Logged
Sorry to offend fans of that show, but BRC's Mahabharata was absolutely third rate, or at best, second rate, given the liberties they took w/ that story.  One might as well watch Peter Brookes'.

Also, I agree w/ Janaki that the Sagars - all of them - are clueless about Mahabharata/Krishna.  Even Ramanand Sagar's Shri Krishna went its own merry ways w/ invented stories, like that of Vajranaam.  Also, the killing of Shishupala took place shortly before the game of dice - in fact, it was the latter that shortly followed the former - but they put a whole lot of fluff in between.  And Pradhyumna - they just made that story so convoluted.  And the Mahabharata part of it was just about the Pandavas and Karna, like there were no other warriors in that war.  Also, after the Ashwamedha yagna, Krishna left the Pandavas for good, and was not there to console them after the deaths of Kunti, Gandhari & Dhritarashtra, as they showed.

I'd love for there to be a fused serial of Mahabharata & Krishna - put it under any title.  I'd like them to take Mahabharata accounts where possible, since they cover things better than SB, and only use SB when Mahabharata accounts don't exist.  Have parallel tracks b/w Hastinapur & Mathura, or Indraprastha/Hastinapur & Dwaraka, and show Krishna's (and family) adventures in tandem w/ that of the Pandavas & Kauravas.  Include 'fuse points' such as Rukmini and other queens helping Subhadra raise Abhimanyu & Draupadi's sons, have Satyabhama meet Draupadi, as in the Mahabharata, show Yudhisthir's meeting w/ Nahusha, show Samba abducting Lakshmanaa and so on.  In all, make this a complete serial, but one that makes sense.  Oh, and if possible, skip the Krishna/Radha stories from this one.

On the serial itself, I'm not liking the cast.  Debina Chatterjee looks too young to be a Draupadi, who would have to age over the serial from someone in say her 30s to an aged woman when she dies.  But I'd like to see Vishal Karwal back as Krishna, and maybe even the DBSK's Balaram, Yudhisthir, Bhima, Jambavati and Sudama return in those roles (if they include Krishna's full story as well)


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Will it not be a double scoop for Debina ? First as Sita in the ASR Ramayan and now as Draupadi. Won't it be a bit confusing for the viewers?

I have always felt Mahabharata as the easiest epic to be made into a telly serial simple because there's just one source and that is Vyasa's . Unlike mythos on Shiva or Devi- where the serial makers have to fuse several, sometimes even conflicting versions. Even in case of Ramayana producers / directors get tempted to make a khichidi of  Valmiki, Tulsidas, Adhyatma and so on...

It should not be too difficult for the new serial to stick to the original MB. But one thing I have wondered - how should Draupadi be portrayed? The BRC one (Rupa Ganguli) came across as being too vindictive and at times even rude which kind of didn't appeal to me too much.

Secondly- another pint where the new serial can notch up a few points is the language used in the dialogues, especially while addressing relatives. There were no "Mama", "Bhanjay", "Didi", "Bua" in those days. I remember an atrocious "Foofhashree" in the BRC one. Maybe the dialogue writers feel they can get away by adding a "shree' as a suffix .I would prefer if the sanskrit  terms were used.

Let's see how this serial does.


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The Debinas are different - in fact, this one is Deblina, not Debina.  Sita was Debina Bonnerjea, who's now Gurmeet's wife.  This Debina who may play Sita is one Deblina Chatterjee.  Check out her profile here

Also, there isn't exactly one source, since SB is also a potential source, which conflicts w/ the Mahabharata in places, particularly the part about the Yadava fratricide, which no serial seems to have the balls to show.  But the question then arises - at what point does one end it?  I thought the BRC's death of Bheeshma was a ridiculous place to end.  If they don't want to show the tragic endings, a good place could be the end of the Ashwamedha yagna, when Krishna ends it and returns to Dwarka.

However, the biggest problem about doing a serial on Mahabharata that does justice to the story would be the duration.  One would have to start w/ Bheeshma's birth, and end w/ the Swargarohan episode of Yudhisthir.  There are so many stories in b/w (even if one drops narrated stories, such as Nala-Damayanti, Nahusha-Sachi and so on) that even this was a 7-day a week serial (which it can't be, since actors don't have that endurance) it would take something like 3 years.

I think that doing a fused Mahabharata-Krishna story, and pacing it and spreading it out so that all actors get breaks would be a good way to do it, while doing justice to the whole story.  But how much is Star Plus willing to put into this?

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Varaali, Sita of AS Ramayan was Debina Choudhary (nee Bonnerjee), while Draupadi of Mahabharat will be Deblina Chatterjee. The names are similar but not exact.Embarrassed

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Originally posted by .Vrish.

Sorry to offend fans of that show, but BRC's Mahabharata was absolutely third rate, or at best, second rate, given the liberties they took w/ that story.  One might as well watch Peter Brookes'.

Also, I agree w/ Janaki that the Sagars - all of them - are clueless about Mahabharata/Krishna.  Even Ramanand Sagar's Shri Krishna went its own merry ways w/ invented stories, like that of Vajranaam.  Also, the killing of Shishupala took place shortly before the game of dice - in fact, it was the latter that shortly followed the former - but they put a whole lot of fluff in between.  And Pradhyumna - they just made that story so convoluted.  And the Mahabharata part of it was just about the Pandavas and Karna, like there were no other warriors in that war.  Also, after the Ashwamedha yagna, Krishna left the Pandavas for good, and was not there to console them after the deaths of Kunti, Gandhari & Dhritarashtra, as they showed.

I'd love for there to be a fused serial of Mahabharata & Krishna - put it under any title.  I'd like them to take Mahabharata accounts where possible, since they cover things better than SB, and only use SB when Mahabharata accounts don't exist.  Have parallel tracks b/w Hastinapur & Mathura, or Indraprastha/Hastinapur & Dwaraka, and show Krishna's (and family) adventures in tandem w/ that of the Pandavas & Kauravas.  Include 'fuse points' such as Rukmini and other queens helping Subhadra raise Abhimanyu & Draupadi's sons, have Satyabhama meet Draupadi, as in the Mahabharata, show Yudhisthir's meeting w/ Nahusha, show Samba abducting Lakshmanaa and so on.  In all, make this a complete serial, but one that makes sense.  Oh, and if possible, skip the Krishna/Radha stories from this one.

On the serial itself, I'm not liking the cast.  Debina Chatterjee looks too young to be a Draupadi, who would have to age over the serial from someone in say her 30s to an aged woman when she dies.  But I'd like to see Vishal Karwal back as Krishna, and maybe even the DBSK's Balaram, Yudhisthir, Bhima, Jambavati and Sudama return in those roles (if they include Krishna's full story as well)


So harsh of  you. Angry BRC Mahabharata was a very hit show & so is Dr Ramanand Sagar's Shri Krishna. The two shows are still being shown on Tv several times. Both the shows are massive hits. Vishal is never suitable in the role of Prabhu Shri Krishna in front of  Sarvadaman Ji from RS Shri Krishna & Nitish Bharadwaj Ji from BRC mahabharata & lots of fiction shown in DBSK as Janaki sister has already highlighted. Both Sarvadaman Ji & Nitish Ji were perfect for the role of the supreme Godhead.  I'm sorry to say that Vishal & DBSK are like an odd man out in front of Sarvadaman ji & Nitish Ji & BRC & RSK respectively. Angry
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Lets play nice, kids. We can probably convey our expectations of the new show without criticisms of or comparisons to others in the process. And we certainly don't need to compare any 2-3 shows to one another that aren't even the one this thread is about.

To be clearer and less diplomatic, "third rate" and similar subjective descriptions, as well as the comparisons of other actors who aren't going to be in the new show, don't belong here.

Your (grandma) DT.

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Originally posted by lola610

Lets play nice, kids. We can probably convey our expectations of the new show without criticisms of or conparisons to others in the process. And we certainly don't need to compare any 2-3 shows to one another that aren't even the one this thread is about.

To be clearer and less diplomatic, "third rate" and similar subjective descriptions, as well as the comparisons of other actors who aren't going to be in the new show, don't belong here.

Your (grandma) DT.


Dear Lola sisterHugHug, how r u  dear? Very nice to see u here after a long time dear. Actually, Vrish offended all the fans of BRC mahabharata by saying it third rate. So, I got very angry  dear & revealed my anger in this way. How r u dear ? How is everyone in your family ? SmileSmile

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 Dear sisters, I'm really sorry if I have hurt anyone. RSR, RSK , BRC Mahabharata, RS Jai Ganga Maiya , RS Vikram aur Betaal , BRC VishnuPuran &  Maa Shakti are like my heart & soul. So I could not tolerate the offend to BRC mahabharat & its fans & so got very angry. I'm very sorry for my harsh behaviour. 

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