Originally posted by Vintage.Wine
You are dead on with the argument ...But Come on free ..😆 ..You and I both know that the hand, if its cut off and seperated from the body dies ...Or would ya like me to slit mine and demostrate that ? 😆 << Just kidding ...I wanna type here ..and keep typing until I meet the God ..or become the God myself ...😆
Yes, exactly my point. The hand dies, is separated from your body, but you do still have consciousness don't you? That means hand didn't contain it? Or did you just lose some percentage of consciousness, which sounds absurd? Until the brain is kept alive, dying of body parts don't affect consciousness.
Originally posted by Vintage.Wine
Moving onto the point ...We have established that the brain can't be responsible for the consciousness ..( The Plant I talked about is the example of that ) ...But again ..Let's not MIX up Consciousness and Intelligence here ...We cane think because there are such cells inside our brain that can foster thoughts and emotions ...Which the plants I surmise don't have ...due to the lack of brain ..Still they are conscious ..and as much alive as we are ..So The Consciousness obviously is independant of intelligce ...
I actually think it is the brain. Plants are alive, but are they conscious? Is a bacteria conscious? Not intelligence, but can a bacteria think? Is it aware of itself?
Originally posted by Vintage.Wine
Now if you think of why the plants die? Do they have a barin ? No ..But they die when their roots are destoyed ..They can't extract any water outta soil...and their life ends...So what exactly do we mean when we say the life ends ? Its most definitely a kind of energy that ceases to power em ...And if its an energy .The laws of physics defo come into play ..It can't be destroyed ...And I ain't sure if it can be transformed into another ...This is where the greatest mystery behind the whole thing,..The LIFE lies ...And we need to go plundering even the spiritual dungeons at times, build a hypothesis and put that to a test ..
They are a living being, dying basically means the cell dies, it stops the process it does. But the thing is each individual cell does those process. And destroying parts, like cutting off branches etc. doesn't kill the plant. But the part you take out dies because it doesn't receive things required to carry out the process. So when that part dies, what some part of life dies? Some part of total percent of life is separated when we cut off a branch? Doesn't seem satisfactory. And each cell dies independently, so does each of them have a part of life? Note that life and consciousness seem two things to me.
Originally posted by Vintage.Wine
See..This is what I have been telling since yonks ...The slit arm , the hand dies ..But the whole body doesn't ..Why ? Cause such hand then becomes non viable and is rendered useless for the mundane purposes ...So my best guess is ..There is a little program thats encoded in that energy itself ...That instructs ITSELF ..to leave such non viable body or it's part ...and then may be it goes onto find another suitable one ...How and Why is something that we ll eventually debate ...Lets first agree or disagree over the basics..before scrambling another step up the ladder ...😆 ..
But what did I lose? I don't think we lose consciousness when a body part is taken away. Do one loses awareness?
Originally posted by Vintage.Wine
So this energy, uncanny and unknown to us ..plays a measure role in the Life and Death cycle ...And as the whole body becomes non viable and scruffy it just frees itself from that piece of meat ...and we call the person has become deceased ...😛
Coming to the Property point ...Its a property ..and I guess it must be evenly distibuted ..Like an Electron's or Positron's charge ...Its neither inside ..or outside their material size and shape ...Its everywhere ...😛
That's where it gets interesting, cell is also made of molecules and eventually atoms. So, how come cell atoms are "alive" and a rock isn't? How come we stop the process, it just decays? How do we measure the property of individual atom? Do we say the cell is alive or each and every atom inside is?
Originally posted by Vintage.Wine
On a funner note : A person who untangles this mystery would defo be both famous and rich ..😆 ..So how about you and I playing Russian Roulette? with a promise that one who dies would tell the other everything, the first hand death expirience ...😆 ..And that we share at least the wealth ..If not the fame ...a Million dollars ? Or may be even more ..So I promise ya Free.. that if you happen to be the one to take the bullet in the head ..I ll pay ya 50 % ..which ll be a huge chunk outta pie ...and If I fail to do so ...You don't allow me to enter the Hell ..When I die ...
You keep the money and fame, I am more interested in the answers. 😉 😆