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Posted: 19 December 2012 at 1:53pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by -aakanksha-

I think people are exaggerating a little too much over here about Delhi and it's people. Sorry to say but Mumbai lost credibility too when the Keenan and Ruben case happened that too infront of such a large crowd and busy, popular area. In the rehab home for women in Mumbai, set up by the Maharashtra Govt, men used to come, pick up women, rape them. It was a big controversy a few weeks ago. How about that?
Yes Delhi is extremely unsafe. The most unsafe city in India. But to say that its not worth visiting only is saying a little too much. There's too many preconceived notions going on here. There are BPO rules which were made after a case in 2010 especially for the safety of girls and there is an order/procedure to be followed while dropping them home at night. Lakhs of girls and women still stay in Delhi. Go out for the entire night, go to clubs but with the right amount of people. If one goes alone then anywhere is unsafe. People from here care too. Hence all the rallys and outbursts that have been taking place since Tuesday. Walk the roads of Delhi and its filled with guys and girl holding boards, enraged and demanding for justice.
Anyhow, we all have our opinions but I do feel that Delhi isn't totally like what people here are making out to be. I can call US unsafe too based on the no. of shootouts that have happened and nothing has been done about it. I'm sure there can be more happening in future too but doesn't mean I won't visit it only. I'll just make sure to follow all safety procedures and precautionary steps.

100% agree with uClap

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Posted: 19 December 2012 at 1:57pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by return_to_hades

Originally posted by TheBoss

How do you kick 10 men, who are out of their mind, ought to "get" you, driven by sexual rage and who has lost all sense of differentiating between good and bad.? Ermm


You obviously cannot take on a gang of unruly men. However, women in India could benefit from more self confidence and assertion. Eve teasing and groping usually tends to be done by individual men. Many women don't say anything. They will hurriedly walk on, change the seats or avoid the situation rather than confront it. Society tends to ingrain that it is "humiliating" and she should "save face" and "avoid trouble." A woman should not be ashamed or embarrassed because a guy groped her or passed a lewd comment. It is the guy who should be embarrassed and ashamed. We need to give women the confidence to speak up and also encourage society to offer support and respect when they do. Self defense and confidence may not prevent rape, but it does contribute to making a difference.


well saidClap same thing I also try to tell...don't show girl bechari in t.v. or movie..if people say it's happen because of t.v. and movies

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Posted: 19 December 2012 at 1:57pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by -aakanksha-

I think people are exaggerating a little too much over here about Delhi and it's people. Sorry to say but Mumbai lost credibility too when the Keenan and Ruben case happened that too infront of such a large crowd and busy, popular area. In the rehab home for women in Mumbai, set up by the Maharashtra Govt, men used to come, pick up women, rape them. It was a big controversy a few weeks ago. How about that?
Yes Delhi is extremely unsafe. The most unsafe city in India. But to say that its not worth visiting only is saying a little too much. There's too many preconceived notions going on here. There are BPO rules which were made after a case in 2010 especially for the safety of girls and there is an order/procedure to be followed while dropping them home at night. Lakhs of girls and women still stay in Delhi. Go out for the entire night, go to clubs but with the right amount of people. If one goes alone then anywhere is unsafe. People from here care too. Hence all the rallys and outbursts that have been taking place since Tuesday. Walk the roads of Delhi and its filled with guys and girl holding boards, enraged and demanding for justice.
Anyhow, we all have our opinions but I do feel that Delhi isn't totally like what people here are making out to be. I can call US unsafe too based on the no. of shootouts that have happened and nothing has been done about it. I'm sure there can be more happening in future too but doesn't mean I won't visit it only. I'll just make sure to follow all safety procedures and precautionary steps.

You can't really compare the US with India. A good chunk of India is afflicted by violence and strife and most Indians in cities don't even know it (Watch chakravyuh). And its unfair to say that nothing has been done to stop the shootings. There are some very strong arguments against gun control which is why it has not been passed yet. If you are a 711 owner in some ghetto, would you be better off with a gun or without a gun ? The criminals are still going to get their smuggled weapons regardless of gun control. 

But what sane reason does the indian government have to not act on these rapes ?



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Posted: 19 December 2012 at 2:02pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by dipali13

Originally posted by -aakanksha-

I think people are exaggerating a little too much over here about Delhi and it's people. Sorry to say but Mumbai lost credibility too when the Keenan and Ruben case happened that too infront of such a large crowd and busy, popular area. In the rehab home for women in Mumbai, set up by the Maharashtra Govt, men used to come, pick up women, rape them. It was a big controversy a few weeks ago. How about that?
Yes Delhi is extremely unsafe. The most unsafe city in India. But to say that its not worth visiting only is saying a little too much. There's too many preconceived notions going on here. There are BPO rules which were made after a case in 2010 especially for the safety of girls and there is an order/procedure to be followed while dropping them home at night. Lakhs of girls and women still stay in Delhi. Go out for the entire night, go to clubs but with the right amount of people. If one goes alone then anywhere is unsafe. People from here care too. Hence all the rallys and outbursts that have been taking place since Tuesday. Walk the roads of Delhi and its filled with guys and girl holding boards, enraged and demanding for justice.
Anyhow, we all have our opinions but I do feel that Delhi isn't totally like what people here are making out to be. I can call US unsafe too based on the no. of shootouts that have happened and nothing has been done about it. I'm sure there can be more happening in future too but doesn't mean I won't visit it only. I'll just make sure to follow all safety procedures and precautionary steps.

100% agree with uClap


well thanks for telling those mumbai events...all i know is that mumbai is safe but then yes not safest as for delhi my friend herself says its terrible...may be she had bad eperience too...i worked in mumbai for three years and nver faced any such problem...may be I was lucky

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Posted: 19 December 2012 at 2:02pm | IP Logged
I'm not comparing it but merely stating an example. There is no comparison b.w US and India because US is FAR more organised and safe and extremely quick in action. I'll be nuts to compare it to India.
I haven't defended Indian governemt anywhere in my post. I only spoke about Delhi. If I have to state my opinion about Indian government then this space won't be enough bcoz there is too much hate, dislike and complaints against them. I stated already on Page 2, Global topic on this issue that if Congress isn't removed away from the Center then harsh truth and sad reality but things won't change much. Neither do I have much hopes from BJP. We need new parties of, for and by the people. Or maybe a party by someone like Anna Hazare.

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Posted: 19 December 2012 at 2:03pm | IP Logged
On a side note, in the wake of sandy shootings, I found It's ridiculous how so many Bollywood people were mocking US gun laws even though most of them carry guns themselves for THEIR protection. Remember when Big B tweeted about sleeping with a  gun under his pillow during 08 terrorist attacks ? Also how about they worry about problems (like this one) in their own backyard first ? Where is the outcry now ?

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Posted: 19 December 2012 at 2:06pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by -aakanksha-

I'm not comparing it but merely stating an example. There is no comparison b.w US and India because US is FAR more organised and safe and extremely quick in action. I'll be nuts to compare it to India.
I haven't defended Indian governemt anywhere in my post. I only spoke about Delhi. If I have to state my opinion about Indian government then this space won't be enough bcoz there is too much hate, dislike and complaints against them. I stated already on Page 2, Global topic on this issue that if Congress isn't removed away from the Center then harsh truth and sad reality but things won't change much. Neither do I have much hopes from BJP. We need new parties of, for and by the people. Or maybe a party by someone like Anna Hazare.

Sadly you are right.. BJP is finished because of inner fights. Not that I support BJP or its policies, but don't we deserve an option other than congress ? We are literally in a single party (or single family rather) dictatorship for the last 60 years.

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Posted: 19 December 2012 at 2:10pm | IP Logged
@Shana: Delhi is HIGHLY unsafe. I am a Delhite, lived here for 22years. So have my friends, my family, my cousin sisters, my friend's families and their cousins. We never ever faced a problem in our entire lifetime here. Maybe it's our luck too. We have to be thankful we haven't faced such a disgusting situation ourselves. There are cases from every part in India like but I will never deny that Delhi is the worst from all. Ashamed to say it but it is and I will not defend it. But at the same time, I am just adding that we're staying here too. So are lakhs of other girls so it's not like not worth visiting only or impossible to stay in.

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