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Posted: 12 January 2013 at 12:33am | IP Logged
Originally posted by tiny15

@mahi i agree wid u that jagya is much better than Ratan. and abt jagya bcame spoilt brat.it was in past & now after this redemption i don't think he"ll bcum a spoilt brat.bcoz his redemption has all 5 stages of redemption wid genuine gud intentions. so theres dif. and Jagya didn't cheat his both wives. he only cheated anandi while Gauri cheated him by lieing him abt his family anandi being bad & making them sum monster. and why shud he ended his contact wid anandi afterall she was the reason 4 his father & family 2 help him  financially 4 his studies. and he'd said that he still considers anandi is his frnd so cudn't he'd contact wid his frnd. and J'd always loved his family so anandi wa sthe only one talking 2him & was the only source who cud'd told him abt his family. i think we all rembr those epis where he was missing his family but didn't know abt them bcoz of gauri.and now annadi is also having contact wid J bcoz now  both of them consider themselves as frnds.and shiv is ok wid it.hes not making hue & cry abt ahy anandi is still caring 4 or frnds wid J like gauri who always suspected J even tho he'd given proofs of his loality 2wards gauri. if annadi was suspecting J after wat he did wid her,her suspicion is justifie dbut not gauri's. it doesn't mean bcoz of ur illogical insecurities (i call G's insecurity as illogical bcoz it was made by her only & there was no proof of it) u make oder ppl's life a hell & that 2 of the prsn whom u claim 2 love like J or the prsns who r innocent & r not doing harm like singhs & A.
i don't know why ppl get so biased??ConfusedConfused atleast we shud stick 2 the facts & the things which r shown & shudn't assume things. i m not fan of any ckt but wen jagya was bad & wrong i also made fun of him in ankit's posts & so much criticised this ckt  & so is wid  anandi's or shiv's behaviour, if wrong, like in sum situtns their rxns etc.
 
and cheating & abusing r worse than abusing only but here Ratan has done both. J never physically abused A or even G except the slap which was needed 4 G.while Ratan'd abused the gal not just emotionally but physically, finacially & sexually also. and why we shudn't talk abt ratan?? is he not the ckt in the show or hadn't done these sins or wrong deeds???Confusedand theres diff. btn J & ratan. J has gone & is going thru all 5 stages of proper redemption which makes a gud prsn & nevre let the prsn waver from the rite path in future i.e rembrance(of his wrong deeds), realizn( wat wrongs or sins done),  guilt, repentance & genuine redemption.
and who'd said that if u were wrong @ one time in ur life u r not entitled 2 b 4given or lead ur life afresh but always 2 remind ur wrong deeds even if the prsn has genuinely gone thru these 5 stages??Ouch J is 4given but he was not accepted back by A so there shud b the same yardstick 4 jagya also. didn't maharishi valmiki once a hunter who ruthlessely killed so many animals & birds but one bird's death made him realize his acts & he bcame one of the most revered sages of India.Clap



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Ufff this Saanch is very much irritating but these Shekhars are more irritating than her Angry
 
She is a spoiled bimbo that we all know but Shekhars are the biggest looser bcoz they cant control their daughter Angry
 
I dont know what are their problem ? why dont they give two tight slaps on her face or send her in the hostel? Angry
 
Last night she disregareded not only Anandi but all the women who do household work...and I dont think this is that very cheap work what they do...even by their contribution we are able to do outside work
 
Really this Saanchi is the Pathetic woman Angry

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Posted: 12 January 2013 at 2:58am | IP Logged
Originally posted by tistaa

Ufff this Saanch is very much irritating but these Shekhars are more irritating than her Angry
 
She is a spoiled bimbo that we all know but Shekhars are the biggest looser bcoz they cant control their daughter Angry
 
I dont know what are their problem ? why dont they give two tight slaps on her face or send her in the hostel? Angry
 
Last night she disregareded not only Anandi but all the women who do household work...and I dont think this is that very cheap work what they do...even by their contribution we are able to do outside work
 
Really this Saanchi is the Pathetic woman Angry

Or they could leave ger with DS for some tutoring!!!!!

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Posted: 12 January 2013 at 3:33am | IP Logged
Originally posted by reshmiroy2012

@tiny, i think u r r8, jagya whatever he did was wrong but he is over punished. Let him help Ganga in all possible ways.
It is not that Anandi will close all ties with Jagya, and they will not even speak when they meet. Shiv also said in one episode, that he is not bothered whether Anandi wants to keep ties with Jagya or not. But what we are not liking is he still having FB of her moments with jagya, which somehow says that deep down in her heart she still have feelings, and with Jagya near him, feelings can come out any moment. If this happens , we have nothing to say. But that is very unfair to Shiv, who is trying his best to make the relationship work. I personally have nothing against jagya, and want to restart his life. But what i feel BV is playing around with a love triangle, in a shuttle way. They are not making a straight call, that it is a love triangle, also not saying it is over, just banking on grey areas of human mind.
i m also saying that hes not just punished but'd gone thru all 5 stages of redemption & now hes not thinking that why i m getting punished or got punished like he used 2 think earlier. it means he'd cum out of his self-pity & victimised mode after he did wrongs while gauri ha slong way  2go.she has still not cum out of self-victimised mode, realizing & then experiencing oder stages of redemption is far away form her thots.and i think anandi doesn't've any feelings 4 Jagya.shes caring 4 him like a v.gud friend whom she knows from the childhood. and these FBs doesn't show that she has sum feelings. wat CVs want 2 show thru these is not clear. but i agree that they shud now end these FBs. its getting overboard.
@bold tho i don't think BV CVs resort 2 such tactics but i can've sum suspicion as they did stupidity by making Jagya total villain during revenge track.

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Posted: 12 January 2013 at 3:42am | IP Logged
Originally posted by tistaa

Ufff this Saanch is very much irritating but these Shekhars are more irritating than her Angry
 
She is a spoiled bimbo that we all know but Shekhars are the biggest looser bcoz they cant control their daughter Angry
 
I dont know what are their problem ? why dont they give two tight slaps on her face or send her in the hostel? Angry
 
Last night she disregareded not only Anandi but all the women who do household work...and I dont think this is that very cheap work what they do...even by their contribution we are able to do outside work
 
Really this Saanchi is the Pathetic woman Angry
agree 
she is such a disgusting character of the serial
and why shekhars cant control her 
wish they send saanchi to her hostel soonD'oh

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Posted: 12 January 2013 at 8:33am | IP Logged
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Who is Ratan ?Do we care about him?We know that he has the habit of acquiring wives when they fail to live upto his expectations.If that is not a similarity  with Jagya what is it?
Jagya specialises in emotional abuse Ratan was into physical abuse.
Abuse is abuse whether it is physical or emotional - Both are abusive husbands.

As for Jagya-  let's see how easy or how difficult he finds it to become a good man.
One small trouble in life has been enough for him to bring out DS's spoilt brat in him.
There are 5 bad Jagya's in him and one weakly flickering good one.In the face of adversity he only takes the help of one of the 5 bad Jagyas.And we have seen it in the show it self.
Why don't we wait and see whether the weak and seriously ill one good Jagya will kill the 5 bad ones in him that too in the most difficult conditions?


you are misunderstanding me  i said Jagaya has  similarity with Ratan ..emotional abuse that he gave to Anandi...that too Gave now he is connecting dots and realizing what wrong he had done ...Ratan is following two approaches emotional + physical = one Ratan ..you said Jagaya is very much like Ratan while i said .Ratan janab is three steps ahead of jaggu ..yes one was a abusive husband  the other one  is  double abusive ..you don't care about Ratan but neutral  criticisim is done on one  or any one and points brought by seeing all circumstances...even if you compare two people then see both completely then bring points ..one similarity one shares ten differences then how can you call  to them very much like alike ?

@bold red ..  i haven't said he has become saint now i have used the phrase BECOMING A GOOD MAN and  isn't he becoming a good man? or is he still bad ? isn't he redeeming ? in how many difficult  situations now he has proved himself he is changing for good ? how many  bigger troubles came now  and the guy is proving himself he won't  harm anyone  the guy is slowly accepting all his misdeeds  he has started to live for others not only i me myself Ganga is completely a stranger to him she don't want his help but still he is restless seeing her pain and so concerned about her and wants to help her  after seeing this present  of his you still have doubts ?. the one you are calling seriously .ill Jagaya  is not seriously ill anymore he is recovering  now where are those four  Jagats? gone...the good one is progressing now you need to wait and see how the good man shines more  but seriously if you still say the redemption process hasn't started  then when it will start Confusedyou have still doubts on J's redemption really?Confused



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Posted: 12 January 2013 at 8:47am | IP Logged
Yes jagya had changed initially he didn't bothered abt the feeling of others now he is doing his profession at free of cost.
In tdy's episode anandhi is searching for jagyaAngry . Plz allow jagya to live his life he is also a human.Smile


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