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Posted: 07 January 2013 at 8:00am | IP Logged
I was terribly shocked Shocked to hear tis

Delhi gangrape: Accused produced in court, two lawyers offer to defend them

The Saket court witnessed chaos as the five men accused of rape and murder of 23-year-old woman, were produced before court. Bar association members created ruckus after two lawyers offered to defend the accused.
   
The five, who could face the death penalty if convicted, are also charged with kidnap, robbery and conspiracy over the attack on a bus on December 16 that sparked protests across India about the levels of violence against women.

The defendants have been named as Ram Singh, Mukesh Singh, Vijay Sharma, Akshay Thakur and Pawan Gupta.
   
A sixth accused, who is 17, is to be tried in a separate court for juveniles. The sixth accused, who is reportedly, seventeen and a half years old will be presented before a Juvenile Justice Board which has already summoned his school principal to determine his exact age.

Two of the six accused had on Sunday expressed the wish to turn into state witnesses. Vinay Sharma, a gym instructor, and Pawan Gupta, a fruit-seller, had confessed to their crime when produced before the court on December 19.

The two said they wanted to be witnesses in the case and refused to take the service of a legal aid counsel.

Some lawyers on Monday said they were willing to represent the accused but others expressed their anguish.

One advocate told the court that he was approached by the family of the accused, asking him to defend them.

"I was approached by the family of accused, I should be allowed to meet them here to sign the 'vakalatnama' (contract with the lawyer)," said the advocate.

To this, the judge said he would not be allowed to meet the accused and could go to Tihar Jail to sign the papers.

The incident has caused widespread rage and protests all over the nation, with protests being staged in several major cities, mainly in Delhi.

   
Police have pledged "maximum security" during the hearing at the magistrates' court amid fears for the defendants' safety. A man was arrested last week as he allegedly tried to plant a crude bomb near the home of one of the men.
   
Legal experts say the court in the Saket district of the capital would likely transfer the case to a more senior court during Monday's hearing.
   
"The court will ask them if they have lawyers and then it will appoint an Amicus Curiae (lawyer) to represent them and supply copies of the chargesheet to the accused," said Vishwender Verma, a senior advocate at Delhi High Court.
   
"The case will then be committed to a sessions court as a magistrates' court cannot try rape and murder cases."
   
The student, who cannot be named for legal reasons, had spent the evening at a cinema with her boyfriend on the night of the attack. After failing to flag down an autorickshaw, they were lured onto a privste bus they thought would take them home.
   
Instead, a gang are alleged to have taken it in turns to rape the young woman as well as sexually assault her with an iron bar that they also used to attack her companion. The pair were then stripped and thrown out of the moving vehicle.
   
Outlining their case before the same court in Saket on Saturday, prosecutors said there was DNA evidence to tie the defendants to the crime scene.
   
"The blood of the victim tallied with the stains found on the clothes of the accused," said Rajiv Mohan, part of the prosecution team.
   
He also said police had recovered possessions stolen from the victim and her male friend.
   
As well as the forensic and other evidence, the woman's friend has testified to police and has reportedly identified the culprits.
   
The friend in his media interviews, said that passers-by ignored the naked and bloodied couple for 30 minutes after they were thrown out of the bus and police then wasted more time arguing over who had jurisdiction.
   
"The cruelty I saw should not be seen ever," the 28-year-old man, who also cannot be named for legal reasons, said.
   
There have been widespread calls for the attackers to be hanged, including from the victim's father.
   
"At first I wanted to see the men responsible face to face but I don't want to any more. I just want to hear that the courts have punished them and they will be hanged," he told Britain's People newspaper.
   
"Death for all six of them. These men are beasts. They should be made an example of and that society will not allow such things to happen."
   
Rape cases are usually held behind closed doors in India and it will be up to the court to decide what the media will be allowed to report.
   
The police have issued an advisory saying "it shall not be lawful for any person to print or publish any matter in relation to such proceedings" unless they receive permission from the court.






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I am a resident  of Tamil nadu  , you have terrified me more

I  am now scared   to even be alone at my home  


Or neither me too i am also frm TamilNadu

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May her soul rest in peace. May her attackers be punished so greatly that it will be remember by all for years to come. No girl deserves her fate but she is in a better and safer place now. Away from this sinful world that is full of beastly creatures. 

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Posted: 07 January 2013 at 8:26am | IP Logged
Originally posted by NandyLove

Originally posted by -niti-


I am a resident  of Tamil nadu  , you have terrified me more

I  am now scared   to even be alone at my home  


Or neither me too i am also frm TamilNadu

I  read   a week back in the local newspaper that a   school girl was raped by her teacher  2-3 years ago . Another  student witnessed the scene  . The guilty immediately threatened the witness that he  would  fail him/her  if her/she revealed the truth.  The   victim went  and complained  to the head master  and even correspondent  who did  not respond properly . 

The girl after  a year of struggle   had  finally   go justice . The guilty  was punished  . I think he was given a  5 year death sentence  and   some amount as penalty Sleepy

Seriously , shocked  after the judgement   Angry!! But hats off to the girl's courage  


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Posted: 07 January 2013 at 8:32am | IP Logged
So 100%  sure braveheart jyothy's soul will nvr RIP , her death will go in vain. Her case is goin to be like other rape cases which r pending in India. The victim is dead/alive bt the culprits r roaming freely outside nd inside prison with lot of protection

Each day hearing rape news in channels ..totally fed up..R these liquor men's doin purposely

As frm the news articles , the statements, the case again postponded to Jan 10 , as two lawyers came forward to defend the accused. The juvenile 6th accused will be put up in prison fr 3yrs nd thn he will released it was said so frm some articles. The case will end in tis mnth , i don t knw abt th judgement

Nothing to say, the promise frm the govt the law will be changed is just an eyewash..They r dragging the case bcoz as we knw the protestors were at top anger state , to avoid t they r prolonging , such tht the public will forget the case gradually.  Why can't the judegement be given soon , wht the hell.

I am very happy tht she s dead nd living happily in heaven.

No tough laws gonna be raised , these 6 bas***ds will be living in the prison wth life imprisonment r some yrs of prisonment..Never expect death penalty frm the court.

Totally totally frustrated ...Dammit ashameful country

Hereafter nvr celeb Independence day/Republic Day. We hv to boycott the republic day..Bt thinking abt the army , navy & airforce soldiers we can't boycott it's fr thm

There s no independence for women in tis country frm men's nd frm some bitch witch women's also

Angry

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Yes we should be ashamed as a nation for the degeneration overall.  The delhi case has ripped apart our notion of shining India, a rapidly progressing India and a nation which aspires to be a major player in the world centerstage.  SHAME!!!
Our police had the audacity of arresting women who posted two simple sentences on facebook and was arrested and traumatised when a hatemonger at hyderabad is blatantly inciting people to wage war against India and he's been accompanied by the police to his home safely.  Decide yourself where we are heading as a nation?  

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Two rape accused eye approver route for escape

Police reject offer, say they have strong case

Two accused in the Delhi gang-rape case on Sunday told a court here that they wished to become prosecution witnesses while two others pleaded for legal aid to help in their defence. But the police said they were not taking the offer to turn approver seriously as they have doubts about the reliability of the accused.

Four of the accused were produced before Metropolitan Magistrate Jyoti Kler in her chamber after expiry of their 14 days of judicial custody. Pawan Gupta and Vinay Sharma refused the services of legal aid counsel and expressed their willingness to become witnesses. The two other accused, Ram Singh and his brother Mukesh, have asked for legal aid counsel.

The magistrate extended the judicial remand of all four till January 19. The magistrate said in open court: "All the accused persons were informed that they can seek legal aid in the case if they have not engaged any counsel. Accused Pawan and Vinay have refused to take service of the legal aid counsel and have submitted that they want to become witnesses on behalf of the State."Prosecutors are known to accept pleas of the accused to turn approver and seek pardon for them when their testimony helps to bolster the prosecution in a case where the crime is not heinous and the role of the accused in the offence is relatively minor.

Reacting to the two accused expressing willingness to turn approver, a senior police officer said: "Even if they turn approver, it does not change our position right now, nor would it affect the outcome of the case vis--vis their culpability. They will be awarded commensurate punishment if held guilty along with others. It is during the proceedings before the court concerned that their applications would come up for hearing," the officer said, adding the police had prepared a watertight case on the basis of scientific evidence and witness statements.

Police say father didn't consent to reveal name

Amid reports that the father of the 23-year-old physiotherapy student, who succumbed to her injuries after she was gang-raped on December 16, wishes the world to know his daughter's name, he is learnt to have denied having given any such consent. "He has categorically denied that he had given his approval to make his daughter's name public," said a senior police officer.




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Yes we should be ashamed as a nation for the degeneration overall.  The delhi case has ripped apart our notion of shining India, a rapidly progressing India and a nation which aspires to be a major player in the world centerstage.  SHAME!!!
Our police had the audacity of arresting women who posted two simple sentences on facebook and was arrested and traumatised when a hatemonger at hyderabad is blatantly inciting people to wage war against India and he's been accompanied by the police to his home safely.  Decide yourself where we are heading as a nation?  

Personally, I never had a notion that there was such a thing as shinning India. I mean what is really 'shining' unless you live in some gated community and work in an IT park in Bangalore or you are some rich landlord in Punjab. We have the highest rates of poverty, one of the lowest HDI in the world, highest rates of AIDS etc. At a time when communist revolutions are unheard of, more than 1/3 of our country is engulfed in Naxalism. A few years ago I read that we had the 2nd highest incidents of terror attacks after Iraq. And all this IT progresss that we like to brag so much about was nothing but a phase. Most of that work is now going elsewhere because westerners have understood that Indians lie about their qualifications all the time.

There really is little hope for the country, and a big part of the problem actually lies with the immorality of Indian people themselves. Even though Indians think they have some moral high ground vs westerners  but we are lacking even in basic morality. We lie, we cheat, we steal all the time. When I was in grad school, all  Indian students were cheating on their homework and exams. I didn't and I had the lowest grade in the lot. I used to see that the other American students and those of other nationalities (Chinese, Korean etc) looking at Indian students ( talking, passing chits in the exam ) with absolute shock and horror. Even in office settings and social life, an Indian will always screw his own people.

About the hate monger in Hyderabad, honestly what really scared me more than him was the cheerful reaction of the crowds. The country is clearly descending into civil war and chaos. It's only a matter of time and I think the whole situation is unsalvagable sadly. Leave if you can. That's what I have done, and even if I don't get to settle here in states, I will go somewhere else but I'm not going back. Those who think they can fight and change things, good luck to you. I tried and failed miserably and have zero strength to do anything anymore.



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