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Posted: 19 November 2012 at 7:39am | IP Logged
Obama:-"Israel has the right to defend itself... and make its own decisions about its military tactics and operations."
 

80% global support for Palestine

Of the 193 member states of the United Nations, 131 (67.9%) have recognised the State of Palestine as of November 2012. Their total population is over 5.5 billion people, equalling 80 percent of the world\'s population. ...Then why like this things happening!

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Posted: 19 November 2012 at 1:10pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Prometeus

Obama:-"Israel has the right to defend itself... and make its own decisions about its military tactics and operations."
 

80% global support for Palestine

Of the 193 member states of the United Nations, 131 (67.9%) have recognised the State of Palestine as of November 2012. Their total population is over 5.5 billion people, equalling 80 percent of the world\'s population. ...Then why like this things happening!

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a hundred dumb asses dont make an einstein, so if you are using numbers then it doesnt make sense. Right is right, wrong is wrong, and that's true no matter how many chickens are running around with their brains chopped off.

the jews have more historical right on that land. It's the simple matter of history. The synagogue in Jersualem is UNDER the mosque. 

second, the palestinians and their ilk have not shown any ability to live peacefully with others. The Jews do just fine almost every country they are in.. Why support the palestinians if they cant support the right of another people to exist?

third, the UN is a joke. Most of your 131 countries are pea-sized one-town nations with tin-pot dictators who are united in their opposition to Israel just because of their common religion. If they really had so much fondness for the palestinians, they could set aside part of their own land mass for the palestinians (eg jordan where they are a majority). See, it doesnt take much to be generous with other people's land/ right to existence. But take an inch away from them, and they'll be waging wars against their own brethren.

fourth, look at contribution of that 20% to mankind- whether it's medicines that prolong life, technology that improves lives. What has most of the other 80% done than whine and foment trouble the world over? Point is there are other ways of dissecting UN representation than just a roll call of countries. Those other ways imo are more equitable and appropriate, and by that token the 20% is actually what we should be looking at, not the silly countries that have mushroomed up like so many cockroaches.Smile


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Posted: 19 November 2012 at 8:40pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Prometeus

Obama:-"Israel has the right to defend itself... and make its own decisions about its military tactics and operations."
 

80% global support for Palestine

Of the 193 member states of the United Nations, 131 (67.9%) have recognised the State of Palestine as of November 2012. Their total population is over 5.5 billion people, equalling 80 percent of the world\'s population. ...Then why like this things happening!

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 Spidy... Tongue

 @ Bold 1:  Let's first exhort to Obama to pay the humungous national debt...It was $ 10 Trillion when he assumed office ..And moved stupendously higher to $ 16 Trillion and counting ...LOL ..A buckley's chance ..A task more gigantic and impossible than those faked moon missions of the 70's and printing more money is simply not gonna help.. ...Now to the point - If Israel has a right to use it's military might to defend itself and it's sovereignty, other nations too have such right.  Such decisions and rights should not depend on Obama's whims and tacky decisions.

@ Bold 2:   The detectors in the WEST have engendered the history's greatest and most despicable massacres in the name of their sovereignty, based on fallacies as they hallucinated about their existence being jeopardized for their own selfish causes. They attacked Iraq in the name scouting for and destroying the weapons of mass destruction. Which were NEVER found. UNO ? Hahaha .. LOL  ..UNO is the greatest mockery of an organised effort of bringing peace to the world ..If you remember that, the resolution to besiege Iraq was Vetoed by France in the UNO. Their decision ( And that by many other nations who wailed against a hasty military aggression) should have been respected as per the UNO's tules and regulations. Which was defied by the malicious  Bush regime that served as Self Proclaimed anarchists. They bombed the cities won the war joining hands with their puppet nations only to return empty handed. Where are the Weapons of Mass Destruction ?  Just where ? In Donald Rumsfeld's pants ? LOL

 The same directorship which to me looks like a continuing body with a clear motive to systematically carry out the agenda of vengeance has a dark , pitiful past. Japan bombed Pearl Harbor which was a military base ...and the detectors in the west delivered the little boy and the fat man on the Japanese cities where most civilians dweled.  Killing an unprecedentedly high 170,000 people in a day ( including the aftermath ) The greatest manslaughter in the history of the world by the people who proclaim to be Messiaha's and musketeers of truth and equality. Who preach everyone principles of unity and integrity. Who proclaim to have killed the World's Greatest Terrorist without showing his mortal remains ...LOL ..Even the courts of law doesn't consider someone dead unless the body is found/ Shown. So that was a fig merely to raise popularity of their leader who can't help them out of the economic dilemma.. LOL ...

 Same happened in Australia ..Students and migrants from other nations, who reside there were ruthlessly killed..A particular community is targeted ..and they then sang a heartening tune of equality and justice for all ...LOL ..Much hilarious ...
 
 Jews were dispelled and banished by the German detector who mercilessly slaughtered them . The land of Jerusalem (Along with the GAZA strip)  belongs to them as has been accepted by the world at that time. Its not just Israel's but every nations right to fight and annihilate the Evil that pretends to be drear and astutely hides behind a veil of Humanity after devising attacks over other religions / communities world over.  Why are the people that belong to a particular community always in trouble? Why are they involved in most acts of  Terrorism ?  Why are people of other belief's not fighting with each other ? Why are most terrorist attacks based on only one principle with involvement of people that belong to one community   ? Why do those people apprehend danger at the hands of all other communities, beliefs  ? Why do they believe only they are hated so much for no just reason? Pretensions and illegible  beliefs after turning and twisting the words out of their guiding principles , to make them sound like whipping boys is not the way to justify the atrocious acts of that particular community to go killing people world wide and then seek protection under the name of humanity patronizing people world over that way.
 
 Everyone can see whats happening in today's world. Who is causing all terrorism, Indiscriminate brutal and relentless attacks. Who kills women, children, old people that bear no arms and have no will to kill or power to defend. The community that has been known not to be able to Co Exist when they increase in number. Who always demands separate states for them. The history is the proof, much indelible and eye opening. 

 Its high time Obama concentrates more on bringing back the scruffy economic engines of economy back to their rumbling state. He should insist that America first destroys her massive nuclear arsenal and then ask others to stop making such weapons. It should be his foremost priority to bring back troops from every corner of the world if he is for peace. Not just Iraq where the war is over long back and the fossicking accomplished.. LOL

 To sum up everything ...UN's laws and resolutions are not respected by it's own prominent members. Every country has a right to defend their people in every which way they can. Not just Israel. Every country who faces the wrath of a particular community that has always been in question, has a right to defend themselves against their aggressions. If its a war the casualties would happen and the the countries that slyly back and promote terrorism must understand this ..They can not hide behind the overly generous people who know zilch about the history and endorse the peace with those relentless killers in the name of humanity. They come a guster by not apprehending the biggest threat the world has from such clandestine operators that ll ensure the occurrence of apocalypse much ahead of time.

  To sum up everything, Israel and all other resentful nations have every right to defend their sovereignty and existence regardless of  anyone's approval. No one has been appointed by the almighty as the promoter of peace and moderator of all discrete activities by other nations unless it endangers the world's existence.

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Posted: 19 November 2012 at 11:45pm | IP Logged
 
 
Most fights are between political and religious leaders.
They should be controlled and if too much imprisoned instead.
 
The normal everyday people want to get on with their daily routines in peace and harmony.
 
I agree all terrorists should be imprisoned.

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Posted: 20 November 2012 at 12:22am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Summer3

 
 
Most fights are between political and religious leaders.
They should be controlled and if too much imprisoned instead.
 
The normal everyday people want to get on with their daily routines in peace and harmony.
 
I agree all terrorists should be imprisoned.
 
great. Now who's gonna tell that to the hamas?LOL

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Posted: 20 November 2012 at 8:27pm | IP Logged
Palestine. 

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Posted: 20 November 2012 at 8:54pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by BirdieNumNum

Originally posted by Summer3

 
 
Most fights are between political and religious leaders.
They should be controlled and if too much imprisoned instead.
 
The normal everyday people want to get on with their daily routines in peace and harmony.
 
I agree all terrorists should be imprisoned.
 
great. Now who's gonna tell that to the hamas?LOL
Ha HaLOL
Frankly if I am the common man I rather have strong government that keeps peace and order in the country ( It shold be a representative Government made up of Muslims, Hindus or Christians etc and relatively fair). Guess I am being idealistic but then it has a better chance of success. Alternative is to try and migrate but not many can afford it.
 
Unfortunately the problem is very much more complicated due to the deep hatred and distrust for each other.They could be Fated to die in each other's hands. How can educated and cultured people kill each other ? Guess anger and hatred make us deaf , dumb and blind.
 
Peace and security is a basic human right. But these people are born fighting and they also die fighting.
 

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Posted: 21 November 2012 at 10:07pm | IP Logged
ISRAEL - Kicking a$$ since Jesus!

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