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Posted: 18 November 2012 at 9:25am | IP Logged
Agree to ur point on such raw hard core violence shown at prime time...
The episode, by itself was too engrossing and gripping that we ignored that part...

But i am very surprised that u havent heard of such crimes in real life...political murders or crimes done to destroy traces of their own bad deeds are often ghastly like this...revenge or crimes which arise from vengeance also are brutal...

but yeah, as u said, he could have got killed in some other way and not like this...
My heart definitely went out to that honest cop and his family...i had also mentioned that...a good person had to lose his life for such a racket to get caught...the mode of death didnt matter to me at that point...


Originally posted by sashashyam

I have now seen this episode, and I am surprised and disheartened that not one of the posts in this thread has expressed any dismay at the sickening and gruesome scene of a policeman being burnt alive  - not, as I had imagined, by being trapped in  a burning house by the goons , but by being deliberately doused with naptha and set on fire, while his superior officer, Inspector Daate, smiles and Shikre chortles in glee.

Did it not make any of you sick to the pit of your stomach? It did me. I do not care how clever the detection process was, and as for holes, I have discovered quite  a few, but what hit me like a ton of bricks was the level of sadistic violence, which was repeated towards the end of the episode. it was intolerable. And that too in an 8 pm show, when children are still up in most families
.

This sort of thing should be stopped. It is no use saying that such things might happen,though I personally have not heard of this kind of horror story in real life. There are any number of very ugly things that go on in the world,and one cannot show all of them on screen, and so casually at that. Why could they not have shown that brave man being knocked down by the truck and killed? Was it necessary to show this ghastly scene, and that too twice?


Arjun
already has too many shots of bullets going thru victim's heads, and even those shots, as in the Stolen Ganesha and the Riya shooting episode, were shown in far too gory closeups, and many times. This is unnecessary and undesirable.

But yesterday's horror was far worse, and the saddest of all is that it does not seem to have bothered anyone at all. Remembering Riya is fine and good,but we should also protest against the fate that the CVs have meted out to Havaldar Lokhande, and to us, or at least to me and those who feel as I did.


Shyamala B.Cowsik


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Posted: 18 November 2012 at 10:27am | IP Logged
No, Vidya, the mode of death does matter when you show it on screen. Bride burnings are a horrible crime too, and exactly like this one, but I have never seen it shown on TV and even in films it is not shown like this. I simply could not stand those men standing around and smiling as he was screaming and writhing on the ground. We should not ignore such things being shown at 8 pm.The bullet holes in the centre of the forehead are bad enough.

Yes, of course there are many equally ghastly crimes and some even worse - as I said above, bride burnings, acid attacks, and others, What I meant was that I had never heard of a police officer  being murdered/burnt like in with total impunity by a bunch of goons, with his superior actively aiding and abetting the crime. That is what made it infinitely worse.I have heard of any number of corrupt cops, but not yet of one who stands by and smiles as his junior is burnt alive.

 Even otherwise, policemen are secure only because the crooks believe, as that bar owner said in the Eagleman case, that you cannot kill a cop and get away with it. If that line of defence is breached, and as horribly as in this case, where will the policeman go?

Arjun is now beginning to specialise in crooked cops: ACP Girish Kulkarni, the contract killer cop last weekend, and now this Daate. Somebody was saying the other day that Arjun should have punched  that commercial donor of bone marrow. What should he have done this time? Neither he nor Rathore show much emotion, but at least Rathore's glare at that Bhandarkar, who actually sets fire to Lokhande, shows some rage and disgust.

I will be writing about this episode later, but the whole thing is too small an operation for the level of a minister, and even if one was involved, he would never deal with Daate personally.

The economics are also wonky - the profit on 5-700 litres of petrol per night, minus the cost of the replacement naphtha, and then all these chaps in between to be paid and paid off - what will be left? Why, a clever operator can steal a whole tanker, which is why they now have GPS radio trackers, and the drivers have to log in an each station on the route so that they can be tracked. And if there was so much damage due to adulteration of petrol, there would be a public outcry and raids would follow, putting these chaps out of business, at least temporarily. The story just looks good and flashy on the surface; the foundation is weak underneath.

As for the post mortem report, from which Rathore purports to read about the naptha, it is a howler, but more of that later.

What made me sad was that just last week,everyone was in tears (and rightly so) over that dying child, but this week, an honest  policeman screaming and writhing on the ground as he is deliberately burnt alive does not even merit a mention from anyone. If it had been a woman or a child who was burnt, would the reaction have been the same, do you think? It merits pondering over.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by vidya.anand

Agree to ur point on such raw hard core violence shown at prime time...
The episode, by itself was too engrossing and gripping that we ignored that part...

But i am very surprised that u havent heard of such crimes in real life...political murders or crimes done to destroy traces of their own bad deeds are often ghastly like this...revenge or crimes which arise from vengeance also are brutal...

but yeah, as u said, he could have got killed in some other way and not like this...
My heart definitely went out to that honest cop and his family...i had also mentioned that...a good person had to lose his life for such a racket to get caught...the mode of death didnt matter to me at that point...


Originally posted by sashashyam

I have now seen this episode, and I am surprised and disheartened that not one of the posts in this thread has expressed any dismay at the sickening and gruesome scene of a policeman being burnt alive  - not, as I had imagined, by being trapped in  a burning house by the goons , but by being deliberately doused with naptha and set on fire, while his superior officer, Inspector Daate, smiles and Shikre chortles in glee.

Did it not make any of you sick to the pit of your stomach? It did me. I do not care how clever the detection process was, and as for holes, I have discovered quite  a few, but what hit me like a ton of bricks was the level of sadistic violence, which was repeated towards the end of the episode. it was intolerable. And that too in an 8 pm show, when children are still up in most families
.

This sort of thing should be stopped. It is no use saying that such things might happen,though I personally have not heard of this kind of horror story in real life. There are any number of very ugly things that go on in the world,and one cannot show all of them on screen, and so casually at that. Why could they not have shown that brave man being knocked down by the truck and killed? Was it necessary to show this ghastly scene, and that too twice?


Arjun
already has too many shots of bullets going thru victim's heads, and even those shots, as in the Stolen Ganesha and the Riya shooting episode, were shown in far too gory closeups, and many times. This is unnecessary and undesirable.

But yesterday's horror was far worse, and the saddest of all is that it does not seem to have bothered anyone at all. Remembering Riya is fine and good,but we should also protest against the fate that the CVs have meted out to Havaldar Lokhande, and to us, or at least to me and those who feel as I did.


Shyamala B.Cowsik




Edited by sashashyam - 18 November 2012 at 12:31pm

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