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Posted: 13 November 2012 at 11:53am | IP Logged
Originally posted by kkr531


samuthra manthan might have been and historical event which tilted balance of power towards
devatas based on some treachery which is now attributed to vishnu. so the justification that world would have been destroyed by asurs had they been given amrit etc etc is quite shallow and doesn't really make sense .

This topic is made on basis of what is shown in this show, not the Historic aspect. If the Historic aspect is shown in the show then please tell me in which epi? I might have missed seeing it. If Historic aspect is not shown then calling this post, quite shallow & doesn't really make sense is wrong.

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Posted: 13 November 2012 at 12:23pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by mnx12

Originally posted by kkr531


samuthra manthan might have been and historical event which tilted balance of power towards
devatas based on some treachery which is now attributed to vishnu. so the justification that world would have been destroyed by asurs had they been given amrit etc etc is quite shallow and doesn't really make sense .

This topic is made on basis of what is shown in this show, not the Historic aspect. If the Historic aspect is shown in the show then please tell me in which epi? I might have missed seeing it. If Historic aspect is not shown then calling this post, quite shallow & doesn't really make sense is wrong.


I did'nt know that forum discussion should be only limited to what has been shown in the show, if every thing that has been shown in the show is to be relied, i really don't know what to say.

Moreover its not whether who is right or wrong,  there are hundreds of commentaries on samudra manthan and most of them (90%) are on similar vein whether mythological or spiritual its rather monotonic. i was providing another angle to look at it.

Moreover the post discussed the event as real event rather than mythological hence i had to go into the historical aspect of samudra manthan. so my commentary is perfectly justified with in the context of the post.

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Krishna 

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Posted: 13 November 2012 at 1:28pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by vanadhi

almost u have said every ...deva's only work is to safe guard the earth and asura's only work to is disturb that by this or that means  LOL
these two are really funny before god's eyes i think so ...thats why shivji is favour of any one who follows darma ...where vishnu is interested to help the more comfortable ones who are less thread to his Earth (he is a preserver nah )=these leads to deva's automatically...
When good ones like Prahalad or bali campaign earth he relaxes a bit ...due to their good deeds ...
even in Ravan or kansh ...he do gave lot of time for them to enjoy their passtimes (like torturing indra and other'sROFL) before his arrival ...
It is said shiv is destroyer and Vishnu is protector ...here in asur's issues shiv gave boons to them to live  and vishnu took avators to  destroy them ...reverse order to reversible persons Stern Smile


the only thing i hate is Why indra has to pledge all the time to save his chair before lords ...
why dont.he try the same route by mediating (he can also claim a boon like no asurs will defeat me for another dash K years or Every asurs who is going to born ,already born should not eye his chair etc etc simple hai nah?  ) 


i love ur comment dearLOL..by the the behaviour of devtas and asurs maybe a funny timepass for Mahaddev..He is provided  withor sarcastic and also rofl scenes..its like he is watchin tv live!!!LOL

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Posted: 13 November 2012 at 11:25pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by mnx12

Samudra Manthan is a very big event that happened in Puranas with contribution of Tridevas, Devas & Asuras. This entire incident shows on first thought, that Asuras were cheated. Some say asuras wprked hard but didn't get anything.
Asuras did get something.
Here Samudra Manthan is shown from Shivji's pov but Vishnuji has a major role to play. 
Why Tridevs didn't help Asuras ? Let's see.
Shivji by drinking Halahal helped everyone including Devas, Asuras, Animals, Humans, the entire World.
As far as Vishnuji is concerned, he took Kurma avatar, held Mandar paravt during the entire churning, that itself is a big contribution. He got Lakshmiji back, so did the entire World.
Bali was a good king, but all other Asuras were not. had they become immortal, then this World would have been different. Asuras have a tendancy of misusing their power after getting a boon, for their tough penance. The World would have been different if along with good Asura like Bali others with Asuri vrittis would have become immortal.
Simillarly all the Devas are not perfect. Devraj Indra, is portrayed badly in this show, the real one was better then this one. The Devas like Indra, Agnidev, Vayudev etc are performing significant duties in this World since beginning, why any Asura is not given any important duty like Devas?
May be the reason, why Devas were given Amrit lies in the above mentioned fact. To retain balance of Brhmaji's creation, for which Aadi shakti was seperated form Shivji' Ardhnarishwar form many years back & it took her lots of efforts to unite back with him. To retain all the good things may be it was necessary that Asuras should not be immortal or after becoming immortal they might destroy all good things, even no one will listen to the Tridevs.
Devas, Indra are controllable by Tridevas upto certain extent but not all the Asuras. Would other asuras have listened to Bali to follow path of Dharma after being immortal? Higly doubtful.
 

Also Devas are not cruel.

they dont trouble humans

they dont encroach onto others land

Asurs become vain fast. Power goes to there head

most of them barring a few exeptions are cruel and kill humans and sages

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Posted: 13 November 2012 at 11:40pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by kkr531

I did'nt know that forum discussion should be only limited to what has been shown in the show, if every thing that has been shown in the show is to be relied, i really don't know what to say.

Moreover its not whether who is right or wrong,  there are hundreds of commentaries on samudra manthan and most of them (90%) are on similar vein whether mythological or spiritual its rather monotonic. i was providing another angle to look at it.

Moreover the post discussed the event as real event rather than mythological hence i had to go into the historical aspect of samudra manthan. so my commentary is perfectly justified with in the context of the post.

regards
Krishna 
This forum is of the show Devon Ke Dev Mahadev, so discussions have to be based on that. If a topic is made on basis of some track going on currently then it is highly understood discussion is for that. History of Asuras & Devas is not covered in this show, so giving that as a reference to ridicule the main post by calling it shallow & doesn't make sense is not right.
This post inclded views based on many past, current & future events occured in Mythology. History has it's limitations, Why only consider History, consider Science, Geogrophy, Psychology too.

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Posted: 14 November 2012 at 12:20am | IP Logged
I am reminded of Udhav

I know this is a bit OT

but I could not help saying it

For those who dont know who was Udhav

he was a guy who used to distribute lot of gyan on sprituality and wennt to preach Radha Rani

Now I dont know why I am reminded of thatLOL

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Posted: 14 November 2012 at 4:10am | IP Logged
Originally posted by mnx12

Originally posted by kkr531

I did'nt know that forum discussion should be only limited to what has been shown in the show, if every thing that has been shown in the show is to be relied, i really don't know what to say.

Moreover its not whether who is right or wrong,  there are hundreds of commentaries on samudra manthan and most of them (90%) are on similar vein whether mythological or spiritual its rather monotonic. i was providing another angle to look at it.

Moreover the post discussed the event as real event rather than mythological hence i had to go into the historical aspect of samudra manthan. so my commentary is perfectly justified with in the context of the post.

regards
Krishna 
This forum is of the show Devon Ke Dev Mahadev, so discussions have to be based on that. If a topic is made on basis of some track going on currently then it is highly understood discussion is for that. History of Asuras & Devas is not covered in this show, so giving that as a reference to ridicule the main post by calling it shallow & doesn't make sense is not right.
This post inclded views based on many past, current & future events occured in Mythology. History has it's limitations, Why only consider History, consider Science, Geogrophy, Psychology too.


come on is that ridiculing, its after all just a discussion. i was only giving a balanced view. if the asurs and devatas are conceived and discussed as real characters history is bound to come into picture but even if the puranas and scriptures are considered the judgement passed on that asurs would destroy the universe if given amrit is quite shallow argument.

i am open to discussion on that however if we intend to discuss objectively i suggest we start using citations so that we can verify the authenticity and veracity of the quoted scriptures

Best regards
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Posted: 14 November 2012 at 4:13am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Nandiniraizaada

I am reminded of Udhav

I know this is a bit OT

but I could not help saying it

For those who dont know who was Udhav

he was a guy who used to distribute lot of gyan on sprituality and wennt to preach Radha Rani

Now I dont know why I am reminded of thatLOL


and became devotee of radha rani in the end and triumph of bhakti marga over jnana marga is pronounced.Shocked

i am quite amused

but on serious note i am open to discussion bhakti and jnana marga

regards
krishna


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