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1. There is too much spamming & chatting which r
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that purpose.
2. Too much actor praising . We have Appreciation threads for it. Members can utilize it for that purpose. This is not to say it will not be allowed here . DC members can praise our actors in terms of looks , chemistry and acting for sure but without going overboard and hopefully limited to the scope of our show Punar Vivah.
3. Please stop bringing past resume/shows discussion of the actors needlessly.
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5. If you reserve on the first page (or even if you accidentally post there) you must fill that post with something relevant to the episode, be it a short or long take, a fiction piece, pictures or videos.
---------------------2. Too much actor praising . We have Appreciation threads for it. Members can utilize it for that purpose. This is not to say it will not be allowed here . DC members can praise our actors in terms of looks , chemistry and acting for sure but without going overboard and hopefully limited to the scope of our show Punar Vivah.
3. Please stop bringing past resume/shows discussion of the actors needlessly.
4. Absolutely no personal lives talk will be entertained anymore. If you want to discuss GC or KS's personal life , this thread is not the place.
5. If you reserve on the first page (or even if you accidentally post there) you must fill that post with something relevant to the episode, be it a short or long take, a fiction piece, pictures or videos.
We were discussing towards the end of last week, that
Yash is going to misunderstand Aarti and believe her to be in on this
whole Prashant thing, and it looks more and more likely. The CVs are smart that way. They will take the
hardest route to resolution and introduce as many obstacles as possible
because it gives them more quality air time for the show. If they take
any shortcuts to resolution then the show's shelf life is shorter, they
reach the resolution sooner and then the story stagnates: it is the problem with most of the shows on TV in India and what makes the Mittals
different. They have this very simple but very smart strategy, from what I have seen so far.
I made a prediction on Thursday, I think which is relevant, that Yash will think Aarti was in on the whole Prashant thing because the circumstances have just led in that direction, putting the one thing Aarti hid from him at the centre of a huge misunderstanding, as the enabler of the whole thing. From the fact that Yash met Prashant in Lalitpur and the former called Aarti his wife, to the fact that Aarti conveniently left Ansh at the Dubeys' just when Prashant needed the BMT is all going to speak against Aarti because of the one thing she hid from Yash, that she wasn't a widow, but a divorcee. So they are very cleverly showing how one lie can spiral out of control.
At this point, according to Yash's characterisation, if he found out the truth in a straight forward way, he would be hurt, but he would also get over it pretty fast, once he heard the whole story from Aarti/Dubeys. In order to introduce all the angst and passion to the Aarti-Yash story, which they are setting a back drop for with all the Johar-Barjatya-Chopra saccharine, Yash has to be hugely shaken by the truth and that can only happen if he thinks that Aarti lied to him because she still has some feelings for Prashant. Sure she fell in love with Yash when she thought Prashant didn't want her anymore...but what if he does now? Does that change things? And i don't even think the answer is totally clear for Aarti herself. Part of this is Aarti getting clear about her love for Yash, and separating it from any comparison with Prashant, which she hasn't really done so far, and part of it is Yash feeling that mad, burning passion for Aarti, along with this natural comfort, sweet infatuation and deep contentment he feels in their relationship now. His shayari was ample foreshadowing of this, I think!
They are also building the image of Aarti and Yash being everything to each other, in their completely unique circumstances. Yash's parents in an effort to get him to function after Arpita's death used blackmail and brute force (Gaya and SP, respectively) to try and get him to come out of his manic grief. Here, Aarti was the parental figure he needed, who supported his crazy actions but also mediated them to make sure he didn't put himself in too much danger. After all, a parent cannot control their kids' life completely, they can only support and guide and hope that the kid has imbibed enough of their guidance and derives enough strength from their support to make the right decisions. In short, Aarti gave Yash his space (when she was following her instincts), which was a much needed foil to his actual parents.
Similarly here, Yash is becoming a parental figure for Aarti in the opposite way, just when the guarding/guiding hand of Shobha was pulled away from Aarti's head. She sensed that abandonment during the phone call with Prashant on Friday, when she found out that instead of it being her and Shobha against Prashant, as she was always convinced it was, it was actually Shobha and Prashant against her in this complicated game of alliance and deception. Just as she questioned her world, feeling a loss of her most constant guardian, Yash stepped in, not letting her get a word in edgewise and treating her like a child who needed to be taken care of. And because he treated her like a child, she acted like one and forgot all her worries in a trice, only to be reminded the next morning. As Yash said, Aarti is ziddhi, she will insist on having her way, sometimes without too much forethought of the consequences. The Dubeys take that zidh too seriously and indulge it, which makes them fear it in the case of Prashant and the BMT. On the other hand, Yash has learned, both to respect the zidh and to override it when necessary, when he realises that Aarti herself is not looking at the bigger picture in her insistence, but in a way that she understands it. What is so sweet to think about is that he probably has good practice in this from getting into Ansh's heart!
Prashant is shaping up beautifully! I love how the desire for Ansh and his old family is creeping up on him, almost without his own knowledge. "Kash" is such a dangerous word, and a slippery slope to a justification to fight for what you lost. There was an excellent foreshadowing in today's episode where Prashant asks Ansh who makes the noodles better, mumma or friend-uncle, and Ansh replies, both. Prashant, at some point is going to make Ansh face this choice on a much bigger level, and as much as he would like to, he is not going to be able to shake the little man's loyalty to his mother, not in the case of noodles and not in the case of love!
I found the parallel that they are drawing between Yash and Prashant, really interesting. Whatever Yash had to learn through trial and error, Prashant already knows how to do right, like the gift. Yash initially bought Ansh the wrong gift, because of his experience with his girls and had to be instructed on what the right gift was, while Prashant bought Ansh a gift he loved on the first try. Yash tried to force Ansh to eat things, while Prashant asks Ansh what he wants to eat and knows just how he likes his noodles. And of course, Yash can't whistle and Prashant can. I love this irony where Prashant can do every, minute thing right on paper, and still not be Ansh's father. Being a father, or a parent really, is about instilling security and confidence in a child, something that can't be achieved through any number of gifts and similar traits.
Prashant, when it came down to it, could not care for his son today despite all these things, and shooed his parents off to the temple for selfish reasons, wanting to spend more time with Ansh, not once thinking that he was not fit to care for him. Contrast this with Yash, who without breathing a word, sent Ansh over to Aarti after he had taken that bullet so that Ansh wouldn't be afraid if he collapsed. Yash has earned Ansh's trust, while Prashant in characteristic style, is trying to charm it out of him. This is why there was no doubt in Ansh's mind as to who he should call when he found himself vulnerable, not Dubey, who was possibly closer and whose home he was in, but Scindia house, and then...Yash's cell phone. Kids will stay and socialise with anyone as long as they are happy and indulged; in that way they are remarkably flexible. But the instant they feel some discomfort, something not right, they want their parents, their safety net, with an equally formidable stubbornness that often can't be dissuaded. That is why it meant everything in the world that Ansh called Yash. It may seem like he is infatuated with, and absorbed in Prashant at the moment, forgetting all about his papa, but when the going gets tough, the CVs clearly hinted whose arms Ansh is going to go running into (insert scene from Lamhe with Ansh as Sridevi and Prahsant as Anil Kapoor...trust me, the image is deeply satisfying!).
Aaand. consider that my take for Friday and today!
PS: I totally see why it was necessary for Gayatri to be back in the spotlight! Nobody else could possibly hand out deliriously joyful blessings, rife with dramatic irony, or count chickens before they are hatched, with her panache! 😃
PPS: That scene with the three brothers ogling their wives was hilarious! i love that as though on cue, each of the wives lowered their eyes under their respective husband's gaze. It is as though the CVs are giving us toothaches so that we beg for the angst we know they are going to throw our way once the truth comes out! Then if we complain that the show is too depressing, they will say...well you asked for it! 😕
I made a prediction on Thursday, I think which is relevant, that Yash will think Aarti was in on the whole Prashant thing because the circumstances have just led in that direction, putting the one thing Aarti hid from him at the centre of a huge misunderstanding, as the enabler of the whole thing. From the fact that Yash met Prashant in Lalitpur and the former called Aarti his wife, to the fact that Aarti conveniently left Ansh at the Dubeys' just when Prashant needed the BMT is all going to speak against Aarti because of the one thing she hid from Yash, that she wasn't a widow, but a divorcee. So they are very cleverly showing how one lie can spiral out of control.
At this point, according to Yash's characterisation, if he found out the truth in a straight forward way, he would be hurt, but he would also get over it pretty fast, once he heard the whole story from Aarti/Dubeys. In order to introduce all the angst and passion to the Aarti-Yash story, which they are setting a back drop for with all the Johar-Barjatya-Chopra saccharine, Yash has to be hugely shaken by the truth and that can only happen if he thinks that Aarti lied to him because she still has some feelings for Prashant. Sure she fell in love with Yash when she thought Prashant didn't want her anymore...but what if he does now? Does that change things? And i don't even think the answer is totally clear for Aarti herself. Part of this is Aarti getting clear about her love for Yash, and separating it from any comparison with Prashant, which she hasn't really done so far, and part of it is Yash feeling that mad, burning passion for Aarti, along with this natural comfort, sweet infatuation and deep contentment he feels in their relationship now. His shayari was ample foreshadowing of this, I think!
They are also building the image of Aarti and Yash being everything to each other, in their completely unique circumstances. Yash's parents in an effort to get him to function after Arpita's death used blackmail and brute force (Gaya and SP, respectively) to try and get him to come out of his manic grief. Here, Aarti was the parental figure he needed, who supported his crazy actions but also mediated them to make sure he didn't put himself in too much danger. After all, a parent cannot control their kids' life completely, they can only support and guide and hope that the kid has imbibed enough of their guidance and derives enough strength from their support to make the right decisions. In short, Aarti gave Yash his space (when she was following her instincts), which was a much needed foil to his actual parents.
Similarly here, Yash is becoming a parental figure for Aarti in the opposite way, just when the guarding/guiding hand of Shobha was pulled away from Aarti's head. She sensed that abandonment during the phone call with Prashant on Friday, when she found out that instead of it being her and Shobha against Prashant, as she was always convinced it was, it was actually Shobha and Prashant against her in this complicated game of alliance and deception. Just as she questioned her world, feeling a loss of her most constant guardian, Yash stepped in, not letting her get a word in edgewise and treating her like a child who needed to be taken care of. And because he treated her like a child, she acted like one and forgot all her worries in a trice, only to be reminded the next morning. As Yash said, Aarti is ziddhi, she will insist on having her way, sometimes without too much forethought of the consequences. The Dubeys take that zidh too seriously and indulge it, which makes them fear it in the case of Prashant and the BMT. On the other hand, Yash has learned, both to respect the zidh and to override it when necessary, when he realises that Aarti herself is not looking at the bigger picture in her insistence, but in a way that she understands it. What is so sweet to think about is that he probably has good practice in this from getting into Ansh's heart!
Prashant is shaping up beautifully! I love how the desire for Ansh and his old family is creeping up on him, almost without his own knowledge. "Kash" is such a dangerous word, and a slippery slope to a justification to fight for what you lost. There was an excellent foreshadowing in today's episode where Prashant asks Ansh who makes the noodles better, mumma or friend-uncle, and Ansh replies, both. Prashant, at some point is going to make Ansh face this choice on a much bigger level, and as much as he would like to, he is not going to be able to shake the little man's loyalty to his mother, not in the case of noodles and not in the case of love!
I found the parallel that they are drawing between Yash and Prashant, really interesting. Whatever Yash had to learn through trial and error, Prashant already knows how to do right, like the gift. Yash initially bought Ansh the wrong gift, because of his experience with his girls and had to be instructed on what the right gift was, while Prashant bought Ansh a gift he loved on the first try. Yash tried to force Ansh to eat things, while Prashant asks Ansh what he wants to eat and knows just how he likes his noodles. And of course, Yash can't whistle and Prashant can. I love this irony where Prashant can do every, minute thing right on paper, and still not be Ansh's father. Being a father, or a parent really, is about instilling security and confidence in a child, something that can't be achieved through any number of gifts and similar traits.
Prashant, when it came down to it, could not care for his son today despite all these things, and shooed his parents off to the temple for selfish reasons, wanting to spend more time with Ansh, not once thinking that he was not fit to care for him. Contrast this with Yash, who without breathing a word, sent Ansh over to Aarti after he had taken that bullet so that Ansh wouldn't be afraid if he collapsed. Yash has earned Ansh's trust, while Prashant in characteristic style, is trying to charm it out of him. This is why there was no doubt in Ansh's mind as to who he should call when he found himself vulnerable, not Dubey, who was possibly closer and whose home he was in, but Scindia house, and then...Yash's cell phone. Kids will stay and socialise with anyone as long as they are happy and indulged; in that way they are remarkably flexible. But the instant they feel some discomfort, something not right, they want their parents, their safety net, with an equally formidable stubbornness that often can't be dissuaded. That is why it meant everything in the world that Ansh called Yash. It may seem like he is infatuated with, and absorbed in Prashant at the moment, forgetting all about his papa, but when the going gets tough, the CVs clearly hinted whose arms Ansh is going to go running into (insert scene from Lamhe with Ansh as Sridevi and Prahsant as Anil Kapoor...trust me, the image is deeply satisfying!).
Aaand. consider that my take for Friday and today!
PS: I totally see why it was necessary for Gayatri to be back in the spotlight! Nobody else could possibly hand out deliriously joyful blessings, rife with dramatic irony, or count chickens before they are hatched, with her panache! 😃
PPS: That scene with the three brothers ogling their wives was hilarious! i love that as though on cue, each of the wives lowered their eyes under their respective husband's gaze. It is as though the CVs are giving us toothaches so that we beg for the angst we know they are going to throw our way once the truth comes out! Then if we complain that the show is too depressing, they will say...well you asked for it! 😕
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