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Its either SArun or nothing. You don't change the the Hero of a movie in between the movie!!

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I would love it if they would.

But we, the audience, are greedy. We can't even stand the thought of not watching the show for 2 days (Sat&Sun), can you really expect the audience to handle a few month breaks?

Why not? If you are a true IPKKND fan you'll do so. Remember ... sabar ka phal meeta hota hotha hai :)


I am not talking about myself - by we I meant the general audience which consists of people who cannot really stand the idea of a show not being there for 3+ months as they get so used to seeing it and making it a part of their daily life.

This is also something that has been ongoing for a very long time - hence a change as drastic as bringing in seasonal shows would need to be well thought-out with the audience watching the show in mind.

Since a lot of the shows cater for an older group of audience - that audience has an attention span of a two year old. If they get bored of a show, they will move on to another, and come back to another show if the other one gets interesting. Which is why half the unreasonable twists are brought forth in the shows because they want to keep the competition alive.

Which brings me to my other point that there is a lot of competition on the Indian TV. We have a lot of channels - all of whom have shows which follow one genre - drama. Hence all the shows work towards maintaining their audience.

If the audience is such that they leave the show if it gets boring and forget about it - bringing in seasonal episodes can be risky as this is the same audience that may not tune into the next season after finding something else exciting.

Not only that, but the revenue they may make from daily episodes, along with the events from Star Plus are probably way more than what they may make from seasonal episodes.


However, personally speaking - I would love for the seasonal episodes to become a trend as it means that we will get better quality episodes and stories.

So I think the audience needs to be more adapting about this matter before such a drastic change is introduced.

IPKKND audience is different from others. This show has more international audience when compared to any other show in India. This audience is used to 'Seasons. They watch Indian television shows along with the international ones. I know that I'm as fond of this show as I have been of 'FRIENDS', 'West Wing', NCIS, PRISON BREAK ETC.

While I'm not fully aware of the number of love stories running on Indian television, I do know there are a few successful ones. However, none of them compare to IPKKND. This is because of the lead pair of this show. 

I think the fan love for this show should not be under estimated. This may actually pave the way forward for Indian Tel;evision. Imagine pioneering something :)



I agree to that, however the audience of IPKKND is not just limited to the international, or young audience. There is a wide range of people who watch this show - ranging from kids to really old people. So Star Plus has to look into that audience as well before taking such a step.

I think they have introduced the seasonal thing with Teri Meri Love Stories, and they will probably see how the turnout is the year after.

However with the shows on Star Plus, it's a big gamble to make with existing shows. You can probably do it with new shows as you are building an audience for those. With existing shows - and with the competition piling - it's a lot harder to make such a big decision, as you don't want to interfere with the audience you have already built up.

Therefore for it happening with IPKKND - the chances are close to none.

However in the future i would love it if the channel, along with other channels, explored the idea about introducing seasons.

If it is any consolation, I'm 41 years old. I never once said, young and international audience only. As for Teri Meri Love Stories, we cannot call it seasonal. They are mini love stories. Very superficial in nature. I personally watched half an episode and never went back to it.

Just because Teri Meri Love Stories is about love, it can no way be compared to IPKKND. I personally think if the seasonal thing works in the world, it'll work in India. Particularly for IPKKND coz this show has an addictive quality because of the lead pair. I can tell you my personal experience. I stumbled across this show by accident while researching for my creative writing work shop. Watched one episode and was so hooked that I watched 9 months episodes in 10 days time. 


I wasn't putting you in any specific category, I merely meant to point out that the audience does consist of those that do not necessarily watch Western shows and therefore do not know much about the seasonal episodes - unless they watch reality TV shows.

I took the example of Teri Meri Love Stories because it was the only seasonal Star show. However another one would be Rishta.com
It completed its season 1, and due to low revenues, and competition with other shows that were generating consistent TRPs, it was not renewed for another season. As long as other shows continue to show daily episodes, the breakthrough of seasonal shows is going to be hard.

Maybe if they ended this show, and came back with a fresh storyline, new characters, same leads etc - they could venture into this seasonal episodes. However, I still believe that for this change to occur, it needs to be done across many channels, many shows for it to be effective. Otherwise the TRPs are going to kick you off the charts.

If you go back to my original post, you'll see that I said, if anybody has the clout to pioneer seasonal shows in India, it is Star Plus. Somebody needs to begin. Star Plus has the capability to set the trend and IPKKND has the power (sizzling chemistry of the leads) to draw the audience. Given those factors, there is no way the TRP's will show otherwise. 
As for audience without international exposure, I agree that not all IPKKND fans watch international shows, like my mother and grand mother. But as someone who understands where they stand with this show, I feel they'll look forward to the show after a break and not move on. Of course this is my personal opinion and opinion of few friends who seem to feel the same way.


I agree that Star Plus has the capacity to do something as big as this - but even if they bring a change, it cannot just happen with one show, they'll need to do it with their other shows as well, otherwise it'll put other shows at an unfair advantage or disadvantage on their channel.

And now the whole other factor of the PH agreeing to such changes comes about.
If eventually this seasonal change is not accepted by the Indian audience, eventually Star Plus, and the PH associated with it, are going to suffer.

And you seem to be misunderstanding me. Just because I am saying that this may be harder than it seems - does not mean I am against it.

There is something called 'One step at a time'. If Star Plus conducts market research, they will understand their most successful show IPKKND is a worthwhile show to conduct the seasonal experiment. Why talk about doing the same for all shows. One at a time. 

Which production house doesn't want to be a part of a successful show? It is business at the end of the day. Why are you concluding this will fail. This experiment is being undertaken to pioneer a change. Of course there is risk involved but the chances oif it succeeding are far greater than the failure.

I'm not offended by your comments at all. It is good to discuss with someone who feels as strongly. 


So they will need to do market research, get people's viewpoints on these things - which in itself can take a whole lot of time. So lets say after a good few months they finally come to the conclusion that going seasonal is a good thing.

Now say IPKKND by some stroke of luck survives the few months of research - and then goes seasonal.

People watch it for a few months, and then it goes off-air. The same viewers turn to watching other shows that are daily, the same show they don't have to wait for a few months to know what's happening, the same shows that they can rely on being there for 5 days a week.

The season comes back, and some audience gets back to it, while others don't as they are hooked onto another story which is providing them with daily episodes of what's happening.

Let's say that the complete audience does return to IPKKND and it turns out that they did not lose that much percentage of audience in this change.

What about the time-slot? Right now it's famous because of a well-placed tine-slot. As it goes earlier or later, it's gonna get harder to get the same TRPs.
Are you to say that every time IPKKND would return, another show would be bumped off from 8:00 slot and put on another time slot?
Isn't that already interfering with the viewership of the present shows that are providing with daily episodes?

Every production house wants to provide a successful show - however if the seasonal thing does not turn out and this turns out to be a disaster, it means their show is a disaster, which means that their show gets shut down before they can show the story. So the PH will suffer.

The chances of it succeeding are not greater than failure, because no research has been conducted on this matter. And the shows that have tried to go seasonal have not returned with a season 2 (YRF, anyone?)

It's not that I feel strongly about it. If I felt strongly about it, I would be either a yes or a no for this matter.
I am saying that I am a yes of India does decide to go for the seasonal approach. However, I am also looking at the other side of the coin, and seeing how hard it is to venture into this decision - hence it might be a while before Indian audience, and the business of media decides to take the leap into seasonal shows. So therefore this happening with IPKKND is pretty slim on the chances.

Not only that but the only seasons that seem to happen in the Indian TV show business is when the story dies out and they need to mark something as a season 2 to mark a fresh beginning of an already dying story - just to keep the TRPs up.

Eventually TRP is the game changer. If the TRPs decide that during those few months you are on air, you don't garner the TRPs that other shows are getting - you are off. And that's a big gamble to make.



Firstly, I need to ask you a question. Are you from Star Plus who is trying to dissuade a fan or fans?
If you are not, I'm sorry for the question. 

Secondly, If Star Plus wants to make this work, they can. When the CEO decided to move away from 'K' serials so that he could attract different audience, he did exactly that. 

I gave my ideas, you can counter with as many. There is no point in going back and forth, if you have decided it is not going to work. 

However, as a huge fans of IPKKND, my friends and I hope the show makes a come back with season 2, with Barun and Sanaya as leads.


Why did you come to the conclusion that I was from Star Plus?

Yes, and they had to get rid of pretty much all the "K" in their serials - save for one or two which are still heavily criticized. They had to refresh their motto with "rishta wahi soch nayi" pretty much changing the outlook of all their shows.

See, you are still missing my point. Just because I am saying that it's hard does not mean it's not going to work. It can work but it requires a whole heap of effort not only from all the channels but also from a more accepting audience - and for the whole system to be changed, regarding the TRPs.

As for season 2, that is pretty much what I have been chanting all this while - but the chances of that happening are as much as the chances of Geet 2 happening were.

Pray tell! what point am I missing? Of course it requires effort. Success is never attained easily, whether in personal life or in a profession. 

Why are we talking about all the channels? The discussion is about whether or not Star Plus could pioneer this change. 

Let star plus do it and the audience will surprise you. 

Do you know that IPKKND in its telugu dubbed version has been moved to the prime time slot? It is very much local telugu speaking audience. If they are appreciating it soo much, you are saying IPKKND in hindi will not be welcomed with open arms in season 2. 

Sorry, I have no comments on Geet coz I never watched it.


And you still haven't told me why I was pegged as a Star Plus official trying to demotivate fans.

The seasonal change is a lot bigger than you might think it is. Yes success is not attained easily - but this is not guaranteed success. It's a gamble of sorts, so the idea of the channel jumping into the seasonal business requires a lot more thought than the fact that they have a show which is popular.
If that was the case then they would do that with DABH which has consistently provided them with high TRPs.

I don't watch Telugu stuff so do not know about that. But I am talking about IPKKND here - and you cannot deny that the present storyline is glaringly different from last year's - and not in a good way.

Well it still doesn't change the fact that 4Lions has not provided with any indication of taking a break and wanting to do a season 2.

I asked the question coz your argument is all about why it wouldn't work for the channel whether it is trp's, prime slot to come back to etc etc. Didnt mean to offend you. Sorry!

You have seen the outcry from fans against PH and SP. Have any TV show seen anything like this? While the seasonal change is a humungous change, the reactions from fans has been nothing less. 

There is no such thing as a guarenteed success. NEVER BEEN. NEVER WILL BE. If the channel is not willing to take the risk, how will they ever know. They maybe lsing out on a hugely successful future too.

You don't need to watch telugu stuff. I was talking about IPKKND dubbed into Telugu language. So it is about IPKKND.

Now you are supporting my point. Of course the story line is glaring;ly different, which is the reason why we need a refreshed story line with a 6months to one year jump. Thus the idea for a rejuvinated IPKKND season 2.



I merely raised those points because they do factor into the equation of the channel considering seasonal changes. I don't have a secret agenda here.

The outcry to hold Sobti back? Yeah I am seeing it, and it's massive. But how does that point towards the channel making a change into seasonal IPKKND?
I ask this because, the show, Rishta.com made by Yash Raj Films was a seasonal show - with mostly an international audience (not counted in TRPs) and was eventually kicked off the TV for low TRPs during the time frame they were supposed to air season 1.

But why take a risk with a show whose storyline is absolutely gone right now? Why take a risk with a show whose storyline is criticised every day it is aired? Why take a gamble with a show whose fans were majorly upset with everything, were on two warring ends, and are not together to bring Sobti back.
As a channel - venturing into such a risky decision - I would choose a show that has provided me with consistent high TRPs which is DABH as opposed to IPKKND that has fluctuated between 1.something to 4.something.

So because IPKKND is dubbed in Telegu language, how does that support your case of why it should be the show chosen for the approach into seasonal change?

I was always supporting your point - I was just posting different sides to a coin, such as how difficult it is, and why it may not happen despite us wanting it to happen. Just because I was doing that does not mean I do not want it to happen.

After the PH goes on a break, comes back with season 2, then what? Will it be a weekly episode, will it be daily? If it's daily, how long? If it's gonna go on for ages, how does one stop it from going down the drain like it did for this storyline?
Where is the guarantee for the channel to take the big step with IPKKND?

That's great. When Star Plus reads this exchange, they'll have a debate to consider and hopefully, they will see the merits and demerits of going seasonal with IPKKND and then decide what to do. We've made it easier for them, so that they dont need to do the thinking like how Four Lions wanted fans to give story ideas for future tracks. 

Sarcasm against Four Lions apart, the outcry was to hold Barun back by meeting his terms or to end the show on a high note and not bring in replacement stupidity like Ekta Kapoor's serials. 
The outcry shows few things.
1. How big IPKKND is.
2. How famous the sizzling chemistry between Sanaya and Barun is
3. The fans who want the show to go on forever (which everyone knows is not possible), want it to conclude when they hear of a replacement in Barun's place... meaning IPKKND is the most liked Star Plus show for many reasons and one of the main factors being the chemistry between the lead pair.

Coming to the storyline, I'm not sure about you but I personally felt it was too early in Khushi and Arnav's married life to bring in a child. After all, Khushi and Arnav got married after so many hurdles. They already had a marraige that was difficult and with no honey moon. This is a love story. Fans expect some romance after marraige. Not problem after problem with no relief in sight. PH botched. I guess Gul Khan was indeed busy with her new show that she couldn't spare too much time for the story line of IPKKND.

So, a break in the seasons will help the writers to come up with fresh ideas, so that they can make the show work. If they made it work in year 1, they can do so again, given the time. If they have produce something interesting without a break, their exhausted minds obviously fail.

The other show you talked about may have a different USP (I don;t watch it). If IPKKND TRP's were a problem, then why didnt Star Plus or PH shut it down before? They could have done it when the TRP's kept falling after Barun's return from kidnapping but they didn't. This is because the international audience are not calculated in the TRP's and Star plus knows that. 

Why should it be a weekly episode when the show makes a come back. It'll be a daily serial but a seasonal one.

I do not want to repeat myself on guarentees. This will be the last time I say, 'There is no such thing as a guarenteed success'. However, Star Plus should think about the future success they maybe foregoing by not going seasonal with IPKKND.

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Posted: 12 November 2012 at 9:53am | IP Logged
i agree...
suggest SP thiis 
hope they agrees too

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Posted: 12 November 2012 at 10:53pm | IP Logged
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I would love it if they would.

But we, the audience, are greedy. We can't even stand the thought of not watching the show for 2 days (Sat&Sun), can you really expect the audience to handle a few month breaks?

Why not? If you are a true IPKKND fan you'll do so. Remember ... sabar ka phal meeta hota hotha hai :)


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I would love it if they would.

But we, the audience, are greedy. We can't even stand the thought of not watching the show for 2 days (Sat&Sun), can you really expect the audience to handle a few month breaks?

Why not? If you are a true IPKKND fan you'll do so. Remember ... sabar ka phal meeta hota hotha hai :)


I am not talking about myself - by we I meant the general audience which consists of people who cannot really stand the idea of a show not being there for 3+ months as they get so used to seeing it and making it a part of their daily life.

This is also something that has been ongoing for a very long time - hence a change as drastic as bringing in seasonal shows would need to be well thought-out with the audience watching the show in mind.

Since a lot of the shows cater for an older group of audience - that audience has an attention span of a two year old. If they get bored of a show, they will move on to another, and come back to another show if the other one gets interesting. Which is why half the unreasonable twists are brought forth in the shows because they want to keep the competition alive.

Which brings me to my other point that there is a lot of competition on the Indian TV. We have a lot of channels - all of whom have shows which follow one genre - drama. Hence all the shows work towards maintaining their audience.

If the audience is such that they leave the show if it gets boring and forget about it - bringing in seasonal episodes can be risky as this is the same audience that may not tune into the next season after finding something else exciting.

Not only that, but the revenue they may make from daily episodes, along with the events from Star Plus are probably way more than what they may make from seasonal episodes.


However, personally speaking - I would love for the seasonal episodes to become a trend as it means that we will get better quality episodes and stories.

So I think the audience needs to be more adapting about this matter before such a drastic change is introduced.

IPKKND audience is different from others. This show has more international audience when compared to any other show in India. This audience is used to 'Seasons. They watch Indian television shows along with the international ones. I know that I'm as fond of this show as I have been of 'FRIENDS', 'West Wing', NCIS, PRISON BREAK ETC.

While I'm not fully aware of the number of love stories running on Indian television, I do know there are a few successful ones. However, none of them compare to IPKKND. This is because of the lead pair of this show. 

I think the fan love for this show should not be under estimated. This may actually pave the way forward for Indian Tel;evision. Imagine pioneering something :)



I agree to that, however the audience of IPKKND is not just limited to the international, or young audience. There is a wide range of people who watch this show - ranging from kids to really old people. So Star Plus has to look into that audience as well before taking such a step.

I think they have introduced the seasonal thing with Teri Meri Love Stories, and they will probably see how the turnout is the year after.

However with the shows on Star Plus, it's a big gamble to make with existing shows. You can probably do it with new shows as you are building an audience for those. With existing shows - and with the competition piling - it's a lot harder to make such a big decision, as you don't want to interfere with the audience you have already built up.

Therefore for it happening with IPKKND - the chances are close to none.

However in the future i would love it if the channel, along with other channels, explored the idea about introducing seasons.

If it is any consolation, I'm 41 years old. I never once said, young and international audience only. As for Teri Meri Love Stories, we cannot call it seasonal. They are mini love stories. Very superficial in nature. I personally watched half an episode and never went back to it.

Just because Teri Meri Love Stories is about love, it can no way be compared to IPKKND. I personally think if the seasonal thing works in the world, it'll work in India. Particularly for IPKKND coz this show has an addictive quality because of the lead pair. I can tell you my personal experience. I stumbled across this show by accident while researching for my creative writing work shop. Watched one episode and was so hooked that I watched 9 months episodes in 10 days time. 


I wasn't putting you in any specific category, I merely meant to point out that the audience does consist of those that do not necessarily watch Western shows and therefore do not know much about the seasonal episodes - unless they watch reality TV shows.

I took the example of Teri Meri Love Stories because it was the only seasonal Star show. However another one would be Rishta.com
It completed its season 1, and due to low revenues, and competition with other shows that were generating consistent TRPs, it was not renewed for another season. As long as other shows continue to show daily episodes, the breakthrough of seasonal shows is going to be hard.

Maybe if they ended this show, and came back with a fresh storyline, new characters, same leads etc - they could venture into this seasonal episodes. However, I still believe that for this change to occur, it needs to be done across many channels, many shows for it to be effective. Otherwise the TRPs are going to kick you off the charts.

If you go back to my original post, you'll see that I said, if anybody has the clout to pioneer seasonal shows in India, it is Star Plus. Somebody needs to begin. Star Plus has the capability to set the trend and IPKKND has the power (sizzling chemistry of the leads) to draw the audience. Given those factors, there is no way the TRP's will show otherwise. 
As for audience without international exposure, I agree that not all IPKKND fans watch international shows, like my mother and grand mother. But as someone who understands where they stand with this show, I feel they'll look forward to the show after a break and not move on. Of course this is my personal opinion and opinion of few friends who seem to feel the same way.


I agree that Star Plus has the capacity to do something as big as this - but even if they bring a change, it cannot just happen with one show, they'll need to do it with their other shows as well, otherwise it'll put other shows at an unfair advantage or disadvantage on their channel.

And now the whole other factor of the PH agreeing to such changes comes about.
If eventually this seasonal change is not accepted by the Indian audience, eventually Star Plus, and the PH associated with it, are going to suffer.

And you seem to be misunderstanding me. Just because I am saying that this may be harder than it seems - does not mean I am against it.

There is something called 'One step at a time'. If Star Plus conducts market research, they will understand their most successful show IPKKND is a worthwhile show to conduct the seasonal experiment. Why talk about doing the same for all shows. One at a time. 

Which production house doesn't want to be a part of a successful show? It is business at the end of the day. Why are you concluding this will fail. This experiment is being undertaken to pioneer a change. Of course there is risk involved but the chances oif it succeeding are far greater than the failure.

I'm not offended by your comments at all. It is good to discuss with someone who feels as strongly. 


So they will need to do market research, get people's viewpoints on these things - which in itself can take a whole lot of time. So lets say after a good few months they finally come to the conclusion that going seasonal is a good thing.

Now say IPKKND by some stroke of luck survives the few months of research - and then goes seasonal.

People watch it for a few months, and then it goes off-air. The same viewers turn to watching other shows that are daily, the same show they don't have to wait for a few months to know what's happening, the same shows that they can rely on being there for 5 days a week.

The season comes back, and some audience gets back to it, while others don't as they are hooked onto another story which is providing them with daily episodes of what's happening.

Let's say that the complete audience does return to IPKKND and it turns out that they did not lose that much percentage of audience in this change.

What about the time-slot? Right now it's famous because of a well-placed tine-slot. As it goes earlier or later, it's gonna get harder to get the same TRPs.
Are you to say that every time IPKKND would return, another show would be bumped off from 8:00 slot and put on another time slot?
Isn't that already interfering with the viewership of the present shows that are providing with daily episodes?

Every production house wants to provide a successful show - however if the seasonal thing does not turn out and this turns out to be a disaster, it means their show is a disaster, which means that their show gets shut down before they can show the story. So the PH will suffer.

The chances of it succeeding are not greater than failure, because no research has been conducted on this matter. And the shows that have tried to go seasonal have not returned with a season 2 (YRF, anyone?)

It's not that I feel strongly about it. If I felt strongly about it, I would be either a yes or a no for this matter.
I am saying that I am a yes of India does decide to go for the seasonal approach. However, I am also looking at the other side of the coin, and seeing how hard it is to venture into this decision - hence it might be a while before Indian audience, and the business of media decides to take the leap into seasonal shows. So therefore this happening with IPKKND is pretty slim on the chances.

Not only that but the only seasons that seem to happen in the Indian TV show business is when the story dies out and they need to mark something as a season 2 to mark a fresh beginning of an already dying story - just to keep the TRPs up.

Eventually TRP is the game changer. If the TRPs decide that during those few months you are on air, you don't garner the TRPs that other shows are getting - you are off. And that's a big gamble to make.



Firstly, I need to ask you a question. Are you from Star Plus who is trying to dissuade a fan or fans?
If you are not, I'm sorry for the question. 

Secondly, If Star Plus wants to make this work, they can. When the CEO decided to move away from 'K' serials so that he could attract different audience, he did exactly that. 

I gave my ideas, you can counter with as many. There is no point in going back and forth, if you have decided it is not going to work. 

However, as a huge fans of IPKKND, my friends and I hope the show makes a come back with season 2, with Barun and Sanaya as leads.


Why did you come to the conclusion that I was from Star Plus?

Yes, and they had to get rid of pretty much all the "K" in their serials - save for one or two which are still heavily criticized. They had to refresh their motto with "rishta wahi soch nayi" pretty much changing the outlook of all their shows.

See, you are still missing my point. Just because I am saying that it's hard does not mean it's not going to work. It can work but it requires a whole heap of effort not only from all the channels but also from a more accepting audience - and for the whole system to be changed, regarding the TRPs.

As for season 2, that is pretty much what I have been chanting all this while - but the chances of that happening are as much as the chances of Geet 2 happening were.

Pray tell! what point am I missing? Of course it requires effort. Success is never attained easily, whether in personal life or in a profession. 

Why are we talking about all the channels? The discussion is about whether or not Star Plus could pioneer this change. 

Let star plus do it and the audience will surprise you. 

Do you know that IPKKND in its telugu dubbed version has been moved to the prime time slot? It is very much local telugu speaking audience. If they are appreciating it soo much, you are saying IPKKND in hindi will not be welcomed with open arms in season 2. 

Sorry, I have no comments on Geet coz I never watched it.


And you still haven't told me why I was pegged as a Star Plus official trying to demotivate fans.

The seasonal change is a lot bigger than you might think it is. Yes success is not attained easily - but this is not guaranteed success. It's a gamble of sorts, so the idea of the channel jumping into the seasonal business requires a lot more thought than the fact that they have a show which is popular.
If that was the case then they would do that with DABH which has consistently provided them with high TRPs.

I don't watch Telugu stuff so do not know about that. But I am talking about IPKKND here - and you cannot deny that the present storyline is glaringly different from last year's - and not in a good way.

Well it still doesn't change the fact that 4Lions has not provided with any indication of taking a break and wanting to do a season 2.

I asked the question coz your argument is all about why it wouldn't work for the channel whether it is trp's, prime slot to come back to etc etc. Didnt mean to offend you. Sorry!

You have seen the outcry from fans against PH and SP. Have any TV show seen anything like this? While the seasonal change is a humungous change, the reactions from fans has been nothing less. 

There is no such thing as a guarenteed success. NEVER BEEN. NEVER WILL BE. If the channel is not willing to take the risk, how will they ever know. They maybe lsing out on a hugely successful future too.

You don't need to watch telugu stuff. I was talking about IPKKND dubbed into Telugu language. So it is about IPKKND.

Now you are supporting my point. Of course the story line is glaring;ly different, which is the reason why we need a refreshed story line with a 6months to one year jump. Thus the idea for a rejuvinated IPKKND season 2.



I merely raised those points because they do factor into the equation of the channel considering seasonal changes. I don't have a secret agenda here.

The outcry to hold Sobti back? Yeah I am seeing it, and it's massive. But how does that point towards the channel making a change into seasonal IPKKND?
I ask this because, the show, Rishta.com made by Yash Raj Films was a seasonal show - with mostly an international audience (not counted in TRPs) and was eventually kicked off the TV for low TRPs during the time frame they were supposed to air season 1.

But why take a risk with a show whose storyline is absolutely gone right now? Why take a risk with a show whose storyline is criticised every day it is aired? Why take a gamble with a show whose fans were majorly upset with everything, were on two warring ends, and are not together to bring Sobti back.
As a channel - venturing into such a risky decision - I would choose a show that has provided me with consistent high TRPs which is DABH as opposed to IPKKND that has fluctuated between 1.something to 4.something.

So because IPKKND is dubbed in Telegu language, how does that support your case of why it should be the show chosen for the approach into seasonal change?

I was always supporting your point - I was just posting different sides to a coin, such as how difficult it is, and why it may not happen despite us wanting it to happen. Just because I was doing that does not mean I do not want it to happen.

After the PH goes on a break, comes back with season 2, then what? Will it be a weekly episode, will it be daily? If it's daily, how long? If it's gonna go on for ages, how does one stop it from going down the drain like it did for this storyline?
Where is the guarantee for the channel to take the big step with IPKKND?

That's great. When Star Plus reads this exchange, they'll have a debate to consider and hopefully, they will see the merits and demerits of going seasonal with IPKKND and then decide what to do. We've made it easier for them, so that they dont need to do the thinking like how Four Lions wanted fans to give story ideas for future tracks. 

Sarcasm against Four Lions apart, the outcry was to hold Barun back by meeting his terms or to end the show on a high note and not bring in replacement stupidity like Ekta Kapoor's serials. 
The outcry shows few things.
1. How big IPKKND is.
2. How famous the sizzling chemistry between Sanaya and Barun is
3. The fans who want the show to go on forever (which everyone knows is not possible), want it to conclude when they hear of a replacement in Barun's place... meaning IPKKND is the most liked Star Plus show for many reasons and one of the main factors being the chemistry between the lead pair.

Coming to the storyline, I'm not sure about you but I personally felt it was too early in Khushi and Arnav's married life to bring in a child. After all, Khushi and Arnav got married after so many hurdles. They already had a marraige that was difficult and with no honey moon. This is a love story. Fans expect some romance after marraige. Not problem after problem with no relief in sight. PH botched. I guess Gul Khan was indeed busy with her new show that she couldn't spare too much time for the story line of IPKKND.

So, a break in the seasons will help the writers to come up with fresh ideas, so that they can make the show work. If they made it work in year 1, they can do so again, given the time. If they have produce something interesting without a break, their exhausted minds obviously fail.

The other show you talked about may have a different USP (I don;t watch it). If IPKKND TRP's were a problem, then why didnt Star Plus or PH shut it down before? They could have done it when the TRP's kept falling after Barun's return from kidnapping but they didn't. This is because the international audience are not calculated in the TRP's and Star plus knows that. 

Why should it be a weekly episode when the show makes a come back. It'll be a daily serial but a seasonal one.

I do not want to repeat myself on guarentees. This will be the last time I say, 'There is no such thing as a guarenteed success'. However, Star Plus should think about the future success they maybe foregoing by not going seasonal with IPKKND.





So you are pretty much saying that they should go seasonal with IPKKND, and it doesn't matter with other shows.
I am saying that the channel needs to take into consideration its other shows and its revenue as well as other factors before taking such a drastic step, especially with a show that has been a disappointment throughout this year. I am also pointing out that it is a lot harder than it seems, and chances are that it may not happen as the audience needs to be open about this idea, along with the production house, as well as the channel.
I'll say it again, that I am not saying that I don't want this change - just that it's a lot harder than it seems.

I agree with you that it is not going to be easy. Whether it is Star Plus or any other channel, they cannot go seasonal with all their shows simultaneously. There is something called product testing. Let IPKKND be that testing product for Star Plus shows to go seasonal. IPKKND is one of those shows with great potential to succeed. As for the story line and the dragging of unnecessary moments on the show over the last few months- isn't it time Star Plus pulled up the production house for doing poor job on a fantastic show?

 

Normally, any serial needs to build up characters from episode 1 and it takes a minimum of 20-25 episodes (4 weeks of TRPs) for the characters to be established enough for the audience to connect with them. In the case of a well-loved story that comes back for the next season, it has an instant connect with the audience, thus garnering decent TRPs to begin with unlike a new show.

 

Seasonal shows will have the edge with established characters that audience love in addition to refreshed ideas, rejuvenated actors and creative teams. Seasonal shows also know the story lines that are not liked by their respective audience. This gives them an edge. No channel will allow the creative teams to get away with crap story lines, costumes etc after making an effort to bring back the show for the next season. Going seasonal gives less scope for story taking unreasonable twists just to keep the audience interested. The break between seasons gives all involved the chance to review and research their ideas and come up with ones that are plausible.

 

Talking about audience, Indian TV has evolved so much in the recent years by adapting international standards in a manner that suits Indian scenario and mindset. If, the television shows have evolved, so have the audience. So, going seasonal is the next big step would be the evolution of Indian shows and audience alike. If audience audience has accepted the changes on Star Plus shows from K serials to the current day shows, doesn't it vouch for their intelligence to adapt to situations?

 

To see if seasons work on Indian television through Teri Meri Love Stories would be bad idea to begin with. It was a show that failed in season 1. Why would the makers want to come back with season 2 of TMLS when it failed in season 1? Only successful shows are brought back for the next season. Maybe IPKKND and TMLS share the theme of love but that is where the comparison between the ends.  I didn't watch or follow Rishta.com, so I cannot comment on that.

 

A production house plays a big role, no doubt. But IPKKND is an established show. If the creative teams and the directors were willing to continue with the show, any production house would grab a business opportunity such as this. Of course, this is where the big IF's come in. If the production house wants to continue the show, if the creative teams are willing to continue with the show without the existing production house or if Star Plus wants to pioneer a change by going seasonal with IPKKND. Well, this is where Star Plus should say; Let's give it a try. It is a worthwhile show.' 

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I would love it if they would.

But we, the audience, are greedy. We can't even stand the thought of not watching the show for 2 days (Sat&Sun), can you really expect the audience to handle a few month breaks?

Why not? If you are a true IPKKND fan you'll do so. Remember ... sabar ka phal meeta hota hotha hai :)


I am not talking about myself - by we I meant the general audience which consists of people who cannot really stand the idea of a show not being there for 3+ months as they get so used to seeing it and making it a part of their daily life.

This is also something that has been ongoing for a very long time - hence a change as drastic as bringing in seasonal shows would need to be well thought-out with the audience watching the show in mind.

Since a lot of the shows cater for an older group of audience - that audience has an attention span of a two year old. If they get bored of a show, they will move on to another, and come back to another show if the other one gets interesting. Which is why half the unreasonable twists are brought forth in the shows because they want to keep the competition alive.

Which brings me to my other point that there is a lot of competition on the Indian TV. We have a lot of channels - all of whom have shows which follow one genre - drama. Hence all the shows work towards maintaining their audience.

If the audience is such that they leave the show if it gets boring and forget about it - bringing in seasonal episodes can be risky as this is the same audience that may not tune into the next season after finding something else exciting.

Not only that, but the revenue they may make from daily episodes, along with the events from Star Plus are probably way more than what they may make from seasonal episodes.


However, personally speaking - I would love for the seasonal episodes to become a trend as it means that we will get better quality episodes and stories.

So I think the audience needs to be more adapting about this matter before such a drastic change is introduced.

IPKKND audience is different from others. This show has more international audience when compared to any other show in India. This audience is used to 'Seasons. They watch Indian television shows along with the international ones. I know that I'm as fond of this show as I have been of 'FRIENDS', 'West Wing', NCIS, PRISON BREAK ETC.

While I'm not fully aware of the number of love stories running on Indian television, I do know there are a few successful ones. However, none of them compare to IPKKND. This is because of the lead pair of this show. 

I think the fan love for this show should not be under estimated. This may actually pave the way forward for Indian Tel;evision. Imagine pioneering something :)



I agree to that, however the audience of IPKKND is not just limited to the international, or young audience. There is a wide range of people who watch this show - ranging from kids to really old people. So Star Plus has to look into that audience as well before taking such a step.

I think they have introduced the seasonal thing with Teri Meri Love Stories, and they will probably see how the turnout is the year after.

However with the shows on Star Plus, it's a big gamble to make with existing shows. You can probably do it with new shows as you are building an audience for those. With existing shows - and with the competition piling - it's a lot harder to make such a big decision, as you don't want to interfere with the audience you have already built up.

Therefore for it happening with IPKKND - the chances are close to none.

However in the future i would love it if the channel, along with other channels, explored the idea about introducing seasons.

If it is any consolation, I'm 41 years old. I never once said, young and international audience only. As for Teri Meri Love Stories, we cannot call it seasonal. They are mini love stories. Very superficial in nature. I personally watched half an episode and never went back to it.

Just because Teri Meri Love Stories is about love, it can no way be compared to IPKKND. I personally think if the seasonal thing works in the world, it'll work in India. Particularly for IPKKND coz this show has an addictive quality because of the lead pair. I can tell you my personal experience. I stumbled across this show by accident while researching for my creative writing work shop. Watched one episode and was so hooked that I watched 9 months episodes in 10 days time. 


I wasn't putting you in any specific category, I merely meant to point out that the audience does consist of those that do not necessarily watch Western shows and therefore do not know much about the seasonal episodes - unless they watch reality TV shows.

I took the example of Teri Meri Love Stories because it was the only seasonal Star show. However another one would be Rishta.com
It completed its season 1, and due to low revenues, and competition with other shows that were generating consistent TRPs, it was not renewed for another season. As long as other shows continue to show daily episodes, the breakthrough of seasonal shows is going to be hard.

Maybe if they ended this show, and came back with a fresh storyline, new characters, same leads etc - they could venture into this seasonal episodes. However, I still believe that for this change to occur, it needs to be done across many channels, many shows for it to be effective. Otherwise the TRPs are going to kick you off the charts.

If you go back to my original post, you'll see that I said, if anybody has the clout to pioneer seasonal shows in India, it is Star Plus. Somebody needs to begin. Star Plus has the capability to set the trend and IPKKND has the power (sizzling chemistry of the leads) to draw the audience. Given those factors, there is no way the TRP's will show otherwise. 
As for audience without international exposure, I agree that not all IPKKND fans watch international shows, like my mother and grand mother. But as someone who understands where they stand with this show, I feel they'll look forward to the show after a break and not move on. Of course this is my personal opinion and opinion of few friends who seem to feel the same way.


I agree that Star Plus has the capacity to do something as big as this - but even if they bring a change, it cannot just happen with one show, they'll need to do it with their other shows as well, otherwise it'll put other shows at an unfair advantage or disadvantage on their channel.

And now the whole other factor of the PH agreeing to such changes comes about.
If eventually this seasonal change is not accepted by the Indian audience, eventually Star Plus, and the PH associated with it, are going to suffer.

And you seem to be misunderstanding me. Just because I am saying that this may be harder than it seems - does not mean I am against it.

There is something called 'One step at a time'. If Star Plus conducts market research, they will understand their most successful show IPKKND is a worthwhile show to conduct the seasonal experiment. Why talk about doing the same for all shows. One at a time. 

Which production house doesn't want to be a part of a successful show? It is business at the end of the day. Why are you concluding this will fail. This experiment is being undertaken to pioneer a change. Of course there is risk involved but the chances oif it succeeding are far greater than the failure.

I'm not offended by your comments at all. It is good to discuss with someone who feels as strongly. 


So they will need to do market research, get people's viewpoints on these things - which in itself can take a whole lot of time. So lets say after a good few months they finally come to the conclusion that going seasonal is a good thing.

Now say IPKKND by some stroke of luck survives the few months of research - and then goes seasonal.

People watch it for a few months, and then it goes off-air. The same viewers turn to watching other shows that are daily, the same show they don't have to wait for a few months to know what's happening, the same shows that they can rely on being there for 5 days a week.

The season comes back, and some audience gets back to it, while others don't as they are hooked onto another story which is providing them with daily episodes of what's happening.

Let's say that the complete audience does return to IPKKND and it turns out that they did not lose that much percentage of audience in this change.

What about the time-slot? Right now it's famous because of a well-placed tine-slot. As it goes earlier or later, it's gonna get harder to get the same TRPs.
Are you to say that every time IPKKND would return, another show would be bumped off from 8:00 slot and put on another time slot?
Isn't that already interfering with the viewership of the present shows that are providing with daily episodes?

Every production house wants to provide a successful show - however if the seasonal thing does not turn out and this turns out to be a disaster, it means their show is a disaster, which means that their show gets shut down before they can show the story. So the PH will suffer.

The chances of it succeeding are not greater than failure, because no research has been conducted on this matter. And the shows that have tried to go seasonal have not returned with a season 2 (YRF, anyone?)

It's not that I feel strongly about it. If I felt strongly about it, I would be either a yes or a no for this matter.
I am saying that I am a yes of India does decide to go for the seasonal approach. However, I am also looking at the other side of the coin, and seeing how hard it is to venture into this decision - hence it might be a while before Indian audience, and the business of media decides to take the leap into seasonal shows. So therefore this happening with IPKKND is pretty slim on the chances.

Not only that but the only seasons that seem to happen in the Indian TV show business is when the story dies out and they need to mark something as a season 2 to mark a fresh beginning of an already dying story - just to keep the TRPs up.

Eventually TRP is the game changer. If the TRPs decide that during those few months you are on air, you don't garner the TRPs that other shows are getting - you are off. And that's a big gamble to make.



Firstly, I need to ask you a question. Are you from Star Plus who is trying to dissuade a fan or fans?
If you are not, I'm sorry for the question. 

Secondly, If Star Plus wants to make this work, they can. When the CEO decided to move away from 'K' serials so that he could attract different audience, he did exactly that. 

I gave my ideas, you can counter with as many. There is no point in going back and forth, if you have decided it is not going to work. 

However, as a huge fans of IPKKND, my friends and I hope the show makes a come back with season 2, with Barun and Sanaya as leads.


Why did you come to the conclusion that I was from Star Plus?

Yes, and they had to get rid of pretty much all the "K" in their serials - save for one or two which are still heavily criticized. They had to refresh their motto with "rishta wahi soch nayi" pretty much changing the outlook of all their shows.

See, you are still missing my point. Just because I am saying that it's hard does not mean it's not going to work. It can work but it requires a whole heap of effort not only from all the channels but also from a more accepting audience - and for the whole system to be changed, regarding the TRPs.

As for season 2, that is pretty much what I have been chanting all this while - but the chances of that happening are as much as the chances of Geet 2 happening were.

Pray tell! what point am I missing? Of course it requires effort. Success is never attained easily, whether in personal life or in a profession. 

Why are we talking about all the channels? The discussion is about whether or not Star Plus could pioneer this change. 

Let star plus do it and the audience will surprise you. 

Do you know that IPKKND in its telugu dubbed version has been moved to the prime time slot? It is very much local telugu speaking audience. If they are appreciating it soo much, you are saying IPKKND in hindi will not be welcomed with open arms in season 2. 

Sorry, I have no comments on Geet coz I never watched it.


And you still haven't told me why I was pegged as a Star Plus official trying to demotivate fans.

The seasonal change is a lot bigger than you might think it is. Yes success is not attained easily - but this is not guaranteed success. It's a gamble of sorts, so the idea of the channel jumping into the seasonal business requires a lot more thought than the fact that they have a show which is popular.
If that was the case then they would do that with DABH which has consistently provided them with high TRPs.

I don't watch Telugu stuff so do not know about that. But I am talking about IPKKND here - and you cannot deny that the present storyline is glaringly different from last year's - and not in a good way.

Well it still doesn't change the fact that 4Lions has not provided with any indication of taking a break and wanting to do a season 2.

I asked the question coz your argument is all about why it wouldn't work for the channel whether it is trp's, prime slot to come back to etc etc. Didnt mean to offend you. Sorry!

You have seen the outcry from fans against PH and SP. Have any TV show seen anything like this? While the seasonal change is a humungous change, the reactions from fans has been nothing less. 

There is no such thing as a guarenteed success. NEVER BEEN. NEVER WILL BE. If the channel is not willing to take the risk, how will they ever know. They maybe lsing out on a hugely successful future too.

You don't need to watch telugu stuff. I was talking about IPKKND dubbed into Telugu language. So it is about IPKKND.

Now you are supporting my point. Of course the story line is glaring;ly different, which is the reason why we need a refreshed story line with a 6months to one year jump. Thus the idea for a rejuvinated IPKKND season 2.



I merely raised those points because they do factor into the equation of the channel considering seasonal changes. I don't have a secret agenda here.

The outcry to hold Sobti back? Yeah I am seeing it, and it's massive. But how does that point towards the channel making a change into seasonal IPKKND?
I ask this because, the show, Rishta.com made by Yash Raj Films was a seasonal show - with mostly an international audience (not counted in TRPs) and was eventually kicked off the TV for low TRPs during the time frame they were supposed to air season 1.

But why take a risk with a show whose storyline is absolutely gone right now? Why take a risk with a show whose storyline is criticised every day it is aired? Why take a gamble with a show whose fans were majorly upset with everything, were on two warring ends, and are not together to bring Sobti back.
As a channel - venturing into such a risky decision - I would choose a show that has provided me with consistent high TRPs which is DABH as opposed to IPKKND that has fluctuated between 1.something to 4.something.

So because IPKKND is dubbed in Telegu language, how does that support your case of why it should be the show chosen for the approach into seasonal change?

I was always supporting your point - I was just posting different sides to a coin, such as how difficult it is, and why it may not happen despite us wanting it to happen. Just because I was doing that does not mean I do not want it to happen.

After the PH goes on a break, comes back with season 2, then what? Will it be a weekly episode, will it be daily? If it's daily, how long? If it's gonna go on for ages, how does one stop it from going down the drain like it did for this storyline?
Where is the guarantee for the channel to take the big step with IPKKND?

That's great. When Star Plus reads this exchange, they'll have a debate to consider and hopefully, they will see the merits and demerits of going seasonal with IPKKND and then decide what to do. We've made it easier for them, so that they dont need to do the thinking like how Four Lions wanted fans to give story ideas for future tracks. 

Sarcasm against Four Lions apart, the outcry was to hold Barun back by meeting his terms or to end the show on a high note and not bring in replacement stupidity like Ekta Kapoor's serials. 
The outcry shows few things.
1. How big IPKKND is.
2. How famous the sizzling chemistry between Sanaya and Barun is
3. The fans who want the show to go on forever (which everyone knows is not possible), want it to conclude when they hear of a replacement in Barun's place... meaning IPKKND is the most liked Star Plus show for many reasons and one of the main factors being the chemistry between the lead pair.

Coming to the storyline, I'm not sure about you but I personally felt it was too early in Khushi and Arnav's married life to bring in a child. After all, Khushi and Arnav got married after so many hurdles. They already had a marraige that was difficult and with no honey moon. This is a love story. Fans expect some romance after marraige. Not problem after problem with no relief in sight. PH botched. I guess Gul Khan was indeed busy with her new show that she couldn't spare too much time for the story line of IPKKND.

So, a break in the seasons will help the writers to come up with fresh ideas, so that they can make the show work. If they made it work in year 1, they can do so again, given the time. If they have produce something interesting without a break, their exhausted minds obviously fail.

The other show you talked about may have a different USP (I don;t watch it). If IPKKND TRP's were a problem, then why didnt Star Plus or PH shut it down before? They could have done it when the TRP's kept falling after Barun's return from kidnapping but they didn't. This is because the international audience are not calculated in the TRP's and Star plus knows that. 

Why should it be a weekly episode when the show makes a come back. It'll be a daily serial but a seasonal one.

I do not want to repeat myself on guarentees. This will be the last time I say, 'There is no such thing as a guarenteed success'. However, Star Plus should think about the future success they maybe foregoing by not going seasonal with IPKKND.





So you are pretty much saying that they should go seasonal with IPKKND, and it doesn't matter with other shows.
I am saying that the channel needs to take into consideration its other shows and its revenue as well as other factors before taking such a drastic step, especially with a show that has been a disappointment throughout this year. I am also pointing out that it is a lot harder than it seems, and chances are that it may not happen as the audience needs to be open about this idea, along with the production house, as well as the channel.
I'll say it again, that I am not saying that I don't want this change - just that it's a lot harder than it seems.

I agree with you that it is not going to be easy. Whether it is Star Plus or any other channel, they cannot go seasonal with all their shows simultaneously. There is something called product testing. Let IPKKND be that testing product for Star Plus shows to go seasonal. IPKKND is one of those shows with great potential to succeed. As for the story line and the dragging of unnecessary moments on the show over the last few months- isn't it time Star Plus pulled up the production house for doing poor job on a fantastic show?

 

Normally, any serial needs to build up characters from episode 1 and it takes a minimum of 20-25 episodes (4 weeks of TRPs) for the characters to be established enough for the audience to connect with them. In the case of a well-loved story that comes back for the next season, it has an instant connect with the audience, thus garnering decent TRPs to begin with unlike a new show.

 

Seasonal shows will have the edge with established characters that audience love in addition to refreshed ideas, rejuvenated actors and creative teams. Seasonal shows also know the story lines that are not liked by their respective audience. This gives them an edge. No channel will allow the creative teams to get away with crap story lines, costumes etc after making an effort to bring back the show for the next season. Going seasonal gives less scope for story taking unreasonable twists just to keep the audience interested. The break between seasons gives all involved the chance to review and research their ideas and come up with ones that are plausible.

 

Talking about audience, Indian TV has evolved so much in the recent years by adapting international standards in a manner that suits Indian scenario and mindset. If, the television shows have evolved, so have the audience. So, going seasonal is the next big step would be the evolution of Indian shows and audience alike. If audience audience has accepted the changes on Star Plus shows from K serials to the current day shows, doesn't it vouch for their intelligence to adapt to situations?

 

To see if seasons work on Indian television through Teri Meri Love Stories would be bad idea to begin with. It was a show that failed in season 1. Why would the makers want to come back with season 2 of TMLS when it failed in season 1? Only successful shows are brought back for the next season. Maybe IPKKND and TMLS share the theme of love but that is where the comparison between the ends.  I didn't watch or follow Rishta.com, so I cannot comment on that.

 

A production house plays a big role, no doubt. But IPKKND is an established show. If the creative teams and the directors were willing to continue with the show, any production house would grab a business opportunity such as this. Of course, this is where the big IF's come in. If the production house wants to continue the show, if the creative teams are willing to continue with the show without the existing production house or if Star Plus wants to pioneer a change by going seasonal with IPKKND. Well, this is where Star Plus should say; Let's give it a try. It is a worthwhile show.' 



Honestly, I really don't know why this debate is being continued when I've already made it clear that I am for the seasonal change occurring, however just put forth my doubts in regards to it happening.

Anyway, to answer you.

IPKKND is now famous not for the storyline, it's famous for the franchise. For the love story that was promised, but never delivered. For the lead actors that created the magic, and made everyone fall in love and believe with the characters.

So if Star Plus was to even consider doing a seasonal show with IPKKND, it cannot do it with an already sinking storyline - with one of the main leads missing and several actors from the original cast on permanent leave.

Therefore if they were to go seasonal with IPKKND it would need to be with a fresh storyline, and a fresh set of characters, otherwise the audience will continuously compare it with the golden 2011 year of IPKKND, and never be satisfied. If new characters were presented, it would give the audience time to adapt to the changes and give the new system and the show a chance.

You are talking about all the advantages of going seasonal - and I can assure you I am aware of the advantages, which is why I am for it. However I still believe that the process of Star Plus venturing into such a big step is very iffy - and them doing it with IPKKND (an already deteriorating show) is even more doubtful.

And as for Indian mindset and television adapting and changing, I would just like to direct you to minimuffins IPK feminism thread which deals with how much the TV has changed in its mindset - which is not actually that much.
This is still a channel that shows a woman wearing Western clothes as being evil (for most shows), and this half reflect the society's mindset as they take in everything that is shown and accept it.

But my above point is going away from the real point you have been raising throughout - whether Indian TV should adopt the seasonal approach or not.

I have said it before, and I'll say it again.
Yes, such a change should be implemented for all the serials presently being broadcasted as it delivers more quality, allows the actors to show their true potential, etc.

However chances of this happening are slim due to the audience's reaction,the revenue generated, along with other factors discussed previously.


So they won't do it and I say they should do it. Let's wait and watch. So long. 
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Posted: 13 November 2012 at 9:04am | IP Logged
I agree with TM, I think it's a great thought.  I'm international viewer (no connection to India what so ever) and very much used to watching shows with seasonal breaks. Would love to see IPK take a break and come back with season 2.  I hope that people in Star Plus are more open to new ideas and would consider something new from "why it would work" point of view rather than "why it wouln't".

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