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Posted: 10 November 2012 at 9:22pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Manisha.

Tia I agree with every word...

But i just dont want to see a new man for Khushi...
I am ok to accept another actor as ASR. It will be difficult but I am willing to give it a shot.
If the actor can do justice and the Story line is promising I am all for it...

But please please don't kill ASR to make way for a new man.
That will be the death of IPK...

And if he is serious to come back after the break...I am ok to show a leap where the new characters played by Barun and Sanaya meet in new circumstances and we witness a love hate relationship again. That will help in bringing in some freshness as well..


Agreed. There is no need to kill ASR. We can let the new man take over temporarily as ASR, but if Barun comes back, he can leave. It has happened before with Rohit Roy leaving Kyunki and came back again. Why not here?

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Posted: 10 November 2012 at 9:28pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by tia.o

Originally posted by Manisha.

Tia I agree with every word...

But i just dont want to see a new man for Khushi...
I am ok to accept another actor as ASR. It will be difficult but I am willing to give it a shot.
If the actor can do justice and the Story line is promising I am all for it...

But please please don't kill ASR to make way for a new man.
That will be the death of IPK...

And if he is serious to come back after the break...I am ok to show a leap where the new characters played by Barun and Sanaya meet in new circumstances and we witness a love hate relationship again. That will help in bringing in some freshness as well..


Agreed. There is no need to kill ASR. We can let the new man take over temporarily as ASR, but if Barun comes back, he can leave. It has happened before with Rohit Roy leaving Kyunki and came back again. Why not here?

Btw how many guys played the role of mihir...
Despite the changes in the actor the show was a hit I believe...

But I dont think we can compare that character with ASR...

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Posted: 10 November 2012 at 9:33pm | IP Logged
Thumbs Up..y dont we support the actors who r still inloyal to us...move on..

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Posted: 10 November 2012 at 9:33pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by tia.o

Hi everyone,

I'm making this post after constantly reading hundreds of mourning and crying and complaining to shut down IPK, if Barun Sobti leaves the show.

Now let's talk about fairness...

Those of you who are in school, how would you feel if, just because one of your popular classmates decided to bunk the exam, your entire class is not allowed to sit for your final exam?

Those of you who are working, how would you feel if, just because one of your popular colleague resigns, the entire department is fired from their job, including yourself?

Those of you who are homemaker, how would you feel if, just because your mayor decides to quit, your entire city funding is hacked leaving your entire city with no water, electricity and public transport?


Doesn't seem fair... is it?


Now look back and think what you are all doing to every cast and crew who are working for IPK and who never complained about their job and may even like it.

Let's think about Sanaya Irani, Utkarsha Naik, Karan Goddwani, Jayshree T...

Not to mention all those hundreds of cast and crew who work there.

If this serial shuts down today, Sanaya will be fine. Karan will be fine too. But Utkarsha and Jayshree T might get another role, but will they be as dynamic as the roles they are playing here?

And while they are still waiting for a better role to come, how will they pay the bills and how will they put food on the table? 

That's practical life, not a fantasy.

And not to mention all the extras and technicians, cast and crew who depend on this show for their daily bread will loose them because the fans don't want to see anyone else with Sanaya.

Really? Then when Barun will go make the movie with Shehnaz, how many of you are skipping it because you don't want to watch Barun with anyone else?

You call yourself Barun's fans? How do you think he will feel when he hears that his fans took away all those people's livelihood because he wanted to pursue his dreams whatever that may be.

He will feel guilty as hell because at the end of the day, you will be punishing his friends in the name of loving him.

And this quitting is not because complaint about the storyline, or track, or acting or anything worth discussing.

It's because of a face you want to see everyday. Then why don't you buy a poster of Barun and stick in your wall? Why kick on someone's belly?

So step back and think... What if whoever is brought can actually do a good job?

Remember Kyunki Saas Bhi Kabhi Bahu Thi? Amar Upadhyay left the show. But then Rohit Roy came in and did such a fabulous job that for me, Rohit Roy was a much better Mihir Virani than Amar.


Why not give this show you love a chance?


Why not give Lalit Mohan a chance?


Why not give all those wonderful actors a chance to make a newbie seem the perfect fit like they did with NK?

If the actor is not up to his calibre, if the storyline sucks, if the track is bad... then by all means complaint or quit. But don't give up on our Khushi, Mamiji, Naniji and NK just because of one Arnav Singh Raizada.


So here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to stick by this show and give it a chance to bring whoever and fill the empty spot left with Barun's leave/leaving.

If you agree with me. Like this post and comment. I will send this to as many people as possible, so that they can continue with the show. 

I'm giving them a chance to bring back the IPK magic and if they can't for some reason, at least I'll know that I gave them a chance and not gave up on them.


DISCLAIMER:No offence to people who don't want to watch IPK without Barun and Sanaya. If you don't want to watch IPK without them, feel free to quit. After all, it's individual preferences. 

But I personally would continue watching IPK until they screw up the track/storyline/proper casting. So all I'm doing is trying to keep it going until there is a reason bigger than one actor's leaving, to dig a grave and bury it.

Thanks.


My idea for a new track: If Arnav and Khushi are killed. Aarav grows up to be just like Arnav (in looks and in everything) and somewhere Khushi is born again, we can have a brand new romantic IPK again. 

Aarav can grow up as Anjali's son and all the characters remain exactly the same. We get our IPK and Barun gets vacation. Even if he doesn't come back, some other actor can play Aarav Singh Raizada, the new ASR without taking away from Arnav Singh Raizada. 

On the other hand, the new Khushi can be named Muskaan and is a well-educated but traditional girl in love with jalebies and may be Ranveer Kapoor?

Let me know what you think about that track?

I got your point Tia, and agree with most parts, esp., about the people involved with the show. However, for most of us the USP of this show is the unique story of love and hate between Arnav and Khushi.
Anyone else playing Arnav and Khushi, will not work for me...naah.


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Posted: 10 November 2012 at 9:34pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Manisha.

Originally posted by tia.o

Originally posted by Manisha.

Tia I agree with every word...

But i just dont want to see a new man for Khushi...
I am ok to accept another actor as ASR. It will be difficult but I am willing to give it a shot.
If the actor can do justice and the Story line is promising I am all for it...

But please please don't kill ASR to make way for a new man.
That will be the death of IPK...

And if he is serious to come back after the break...I am ok to show a leap where the new characters played by Barun and Sanaya meet in new circumstances and we witness a love hate relationship again. That will help in bringing in some freshness as well..


Agreed. There is no need to kill ASR. We can let the new man take over temporarily as ASR, but if Barun comes back, he can leave. It has happened before with Rohit Roy leaving Kyunki and came back again. Why not here?

Btw how many guys played the role of mihir...
Despite the changes in the actor the show was a hit I believe...

But I dont think we can compare that character with ASR...

I think three or four people played Mihir. Original was Amar Upadhayay, then Ronit Roy, then Rohit Roy and there were I think one or two more guys in between. 

Now it certainly seems that ASR's popularity is incomparable to Mihir Virani.

But that was not the age of social media and in spite of that Kyunki was the first show which took Star Plus in the global scale. 

When Mihir was killed because Amar Upadhayay went to try in movies, there were letters, emails, phone calls arriving from everywhere around the world. So much so that Ekta had to bring him back. However, he left promptly after. 

So if that character can be put on hold, ASR can be put on hold until Barun returns too... It's hard to imagine now because we haven't seen it yet. But it will be clearer should this show continues with a decent story line and strong direction.

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Posted: 10 November 2012 at 9:38pm | IP Logged
I am okay with a temp replacement for ASR...but currently it seems like he is not coming back...whatever the reasons...

Not sure how they carry on with the show...but what is clear is that there is more to it than meets the eye...
Couple of things that still stand out for me is that...how come Sanaya was okay with the track changing and only Barun was standing up for it...from what I have seen of him he is a very easy go happy person not sure if he would have taken such a strong stand on his own abt the track...

That said and whatever his reasons for leaving I am curious to know how the track was to go on...if they are killed then for me that is where their story ends ...
If they get a new actor in his place then can we expect a similar chemistry? 
According to me, they should carry on the show till the end of the year...Barun has said he does not when he will take his leave...assuming this is true and 23 rd is not his last day...this will give the cast and crew to find more work...it's better to finish off while the show is still popular for them professionally rather than wait for the show to die a natural death with low TRPs etc ...
I personally like Viraf, have loved him in Mahi Way...but cn he take ASRs place? 
I just want clarity for me to understand better...I wish the PH, the channel and even Barun had from the start been honest and clear instead of creating this big mess that we find ourselves in...

They all do have some responsibility to their audience, one who has supported them throughout...
During the kidnapping phase when we knew he was coming back we continued watching...but now I have lost all hope...his body language is very clear he is not coming back...
For Sanaya and her future I would like to say go on with the show, but honestly neither Khsuhi or arnav hold much attraction for me on their own, and certainly not with any other leads...
I like what they created together. 

That said I am probably happier if the show ends but not in a hurry, maybe at the end of the year...on a happy and high note...

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Posted: 10 November 2012 at 9:48pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by tia.o

Originally posted by charlotte74

Edited.

I understand that you are trying to be positive here. Nevertheless I will just explain my POV.

You mention fairness and I would like to point out that the analogies you have mentioned are not fair themselves. School and work? Seriously?

Let me tell you that students do suffer sometimes when exams are postponed because a paper leaked or someone decided to change the syllabus that year leaving them at a disadvantage.

Sometimes employees are out of work because their boss screwed up royally (heard the great Vijay Mallya and King Fisher?)

And talking about mayor deciding to quit'.. our existing politicians are so bad we wish they would quit and put us out of our miseries actually.

So Tia what do all the above do? They buck up and carry on. That is life.

I don't think the cast and crew of IPKKND is going to suffer in case the show comes to a stop. Shows go off air now and then due to low trps. Do the viewers, PH and channel worry about them in such a scenario? I don't think so. They buck up and begin looking out for new opportunities.

You said that is practical life and not fantasy. But fantasy was created Tia. It was created to sell the show. Now the fantasy is being broken. So the opposite is likely to happen isn't  it?

Coming to KSBKBT ' it was Tulsi who made that show immortal and not Mihir. It would be nice to know what would have happened if she had left the show. Would people still rave about it? Moreover that show was about the trials and tribulations of a woman in a joint family and NOT a love story.

The right examples to quote here would be MJHT, Geet, PKYEK, BHPH, KMH --- here the lovebirds remained together in the end. That is why people remember them even now.

Having said that, if Barun had left when he went for the 40 day stint, a replacement could have been considered to play ASR because the story was half way through. However hard it might have been, everyone would have to grudgingly accept the new actor to see the story to completion. But, now that the story is complete in a sense, there is no need to shove it down anyone's throats.

While I do like your new track, I have no interest in watching it as a continuation of this story. However much I love Sanaya, I'd rather watch her in a new show with a new lead than watch her in this show.  And the reason for that is ----  we are forgetting  that the creatives have been churning out very pathetic tracks since the hate marriage. While it chugged along managed to reach it a logical conclusion I think everyone agrees that the story could have come along in a much better way. The only saving factor during all this was clearly the chemistry of Arshi that kept us glued to our seats.

We signed up for a love story and a love story either ends with a fairy tale wedding or with the lovers dying together. For anything else we have other shows like PV or BV.

 


Fair enough. You are entitled to your opinion. I'm trying to be fair to the other cast and crew who didn't jump ship regardless of the temptation and pulled the show on their back when Barun went to make a movie. Their loyalty should not be paid by ignoring their efforts and good work.

I don't think it was looked upon as a favour from the rest of the cast when Barun went to make a movie. In the showbizz I doubt anyone does anyone a favour unless it works out for them as well. It probably was discussed maturely and decided that it was a win-win situation for everyone. It turned out to be a wonderful track showcasing Sanaya at her best without marring the essence of the love story. In any case, the important thing is Barun did shoot in between working over time and then came back and completed the show in a logical way. We had confession, redemption, consummation, marriage. So the efforts of good work has paid off and we got a wonderful show. We are done. 

I also wish we had a male lead who wouldn't get bored of stagnancy or one who no one would ever think of offering a movie. Then our show could go on and on.

But it is what it is.




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Posted: 10 November 2012 at 9:49pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by tia.o

Originally posted by Manisha.

Originally posted by tia.o

Originally posted by Manisha.

Tia I agree with every word...

But i just dont want to see a new man for Khushi...
I am ok to accept another actor as ASR. It will be difficult but I am willing to give it a shot.
If the actor can do justice and the Story line is promising I am all for it...

But please please don't kill ASR to make way for a new man.
That will be the death of IPK...

And if he is serious to come back after the break...I am ok to show a leap where the new characters played by Barun and Sanaya meet in new circumstances and we witness a love hate relationship again. That will help in bringing in some freshness as well..


Agreed. There is no need to kill ASR. We can let the new man take over temporarily as ASR, but if Barun comes back, he can leave. It has happened before with Rohit Roy leaving Kyunki and came back again. Why not here?

Btw how many guys played the role of mihir...
Despite the changes in the actor the show was a hit I believe...

But I dont think we can compare that character with ASR...

I think three or four people played Mihir. Original was Amar Upadhayay, then Ronit Roy, then Rohit Roy and there were I think one or two more guys in between. 

Now it certainly seems that ASR's popularity is incomparable to Mihir Virani.

But that was not the age of social media and in spite of that Kyunki was the first show which took Star Plus in the global scale. 

When Mihir was killed because Amar Upadhayay went to try in movies, there were letters, emails, phone calls arriving from everywhere around the world. So much so that Ekta had to bring him back. However, he left promptly after. 

So if that character can be put on hold, ASR can be put on hold until Barun returns too... It's hard to imagine now because we haven't seen it yet. But it will be clearer should this show continues with a decent story line and strong direction.




I used to follow KSBKBT occasional and remember the mass hysteria over his death...but that was different, what magic ASR and Khushi have brought to views as a couple is unparalleled ! The passion, chemistry and intensity...
Yes many replacements for Amar ...but Ronit I think was very impact full...but by then the show had done the 5/10/15 year leap ...
However Ronit today is one of TVs most popular actors and the other way faded into oblivion! 

If there was some clarity and assurance that BS was indeed coming back a temp ASR could be accepted...but after this mess and blame game and stories changing all the time abt the reality of what is going on, I will not trust he is coming back...for what ever his reasons...maybe his health, maybe his Bollywood aspirations, his wife works so am sure he is not going to be sitting at home all day with her...maybe he wants to just relax and then concentrate on movies and for that needs time to prepare...maybe take some class's/courses etc...work out! Who knows? 
He has to eventfully work..but some how his body language to me shows he is not coming back...even in his interview he said he is going on a LONG break not sure for how long but it's going to be long...no reassurance that I will be back...etc..like he did when he took time out for the shoot.

I think what he is saying abt leave maybe the official statement especially with this event in the UK...and for some normalcy and calmness and all this to die down! 

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