Originally posted by merrydock
Originally posted by pankhudi11
Originally posted by br200910 Just Disgusting TVS... TVS ka koi izzat tha hi nahi warna koi apni jindi wife ka Barsi nahi karta & Beti ki age ki girl ke liye crazy nahi hota...
just tell me what according to you is disgusting ?? i think you want vikram to suffer, suffer and only suffer never tried to understand her side like sugni . but let it be i had said what ever i wanted to say about vikram , sugni and aditya don't wanna repeat them every time because you don't wanna understand it this shows your loyalty for adini .. ( and proves that truth offends ) .
aur reva hai hi is layak ki uski jeete ji uski barsi kar di jaye . Jab tvs ne uski barsi ki thi that time believe me i was also not happy but she proved me right . dear tvs ne to sirf uski barsi ki par reva to use is duniya se uthane ki puri koshish kar chuki hai,
one more thing why you people always have a problem with TVS and sugni's age for sugni TVS age was never a issue then why you have ?? she loved him for what he was ... so don't make his age a big issue here ...
sorry babes, its not loyelty to sugni or Adi. its the psychology of vikram that intrest me. here is a 40 + man behaving like a 16 year old boy. vikram is all charm and witt as long as things are happining his way. this man who has been married to a woman for a few years, thinks she;s dead but comes to know she is alive. but hides this fact for the girl he claims to love.
also, he very clearly know of his mother's maa thakur prejudice against women of sugni cast. but he was going to marry sugni without informing his mother. ho! very mature. tell you what that is something a 18 year old boy would do. becaues he is afraid his mommy wiil take his favriot toy away. when he cant get the girl he wants he throws a tantrum and run around bandishing a gun. like a wayward 18 year old goon. when he is in front of sugni he is begging and pleading that his love is true. to me vikram seams to be suffering from a borderline personility disorder.
let me explain
[ an individual suffering from BPD menifests instability in behavior,mood and self- image. his relatioships with others are intense and unstable, he is often impulsive and unpredictable and has mood swings the go from normal to dejected or to menifestation of anger and vilonce, and temper tantrums. such people are prone to engage in suididal gestures and self- mutilation.]
so you see Vikram behaviou is of intrest to me because of the above mentioned reasons. try studing vikrams behavior and you will notice that the above menifestations apply at some point or another
but then just because he is crazy does not make him right. a man of his age should have control on himself. which he lacks. and that is why i dont consider him a gentleman.
I believe since everyone has been able to access IF, they must know how to at least use Google, so it was not necessary for you to Google BPD and show us on the forum. It is a pity you did not just copy and paste, at least it would look just like it does on the site you got it from.
Also, Vikram has never showed any signs of the definition. What could make you possible believe, if you have been watching the show from the beginning, that Vikram has instability in behaviour, mood and self-image? Vikram does not have instability in either, the man is upset that the woman he thought loved him and he loves dearly, is going to be sleeping with his Nephew for 7 Births in his Own House, what is so wrong in being upset about that? Now he is lead to believe she tried to kill him, who wouldn't think that under the circumstances.
Anger, violence, temper tantrums can be experienced by anyone under the right circumstances.
When you for instance lash out at persons on the forum and say unkind things, didn't you not know that is violence? Violence is not just shown in action alone, it is also shown in verbal and emotional abuse.
Anger is a natural feeling (even though it is not good) that can be experienced by anyone at any age. Temper tantrums are displayed by all ages, so age has nothing to do with it. When you get upset with someone for not doing things your way or listening to you, or if you have children and you shout at them for the least thing, that is a temper tantrum.
Suicidal and self-mutilation. When did you see Vikram actually wanting to kill himself? When have you seen him mutilate himself.
In the West, drinking alcohol when you are heart broken is a regular thing. When someone gets their heart broken, or they have messed up their relationship for whatever reason, it is quite natural to feel your world has ended. Friends will even take you out, to get drunk and forget. Though it is not a spiritual thing to do, it is still a way of life for many people on the other side of the world.
Suicide is a thought or feeling that many experience, and it is not charitable to mock those who go through this. If you have never experienced it, don't try to assume anything about it. From the people I know friends and acquaintances who are Adults, have all gone through this. So, all the things that you are saying Vikram has, have been experienced by many and they have pulled through and they are not considered to have BPD. They were just going through a bad phase in their life...Nothing to do with age, My Dear.
Do you know children with BPD only? When you were doing your research, did it state that it can only be experienced by Teenagers? I am not understanding what Vikram's age has to do with BPD, why are you connecting your feeling that he is behaving like a Teenager with BPD?
If you don't like his behaviour, fine, but take care before going overboard with your analysis.
Why does Vikram need to inform his Mother of his marriage? I thought it was only younger people who are inclined to do so? Based on Vikram's behaviour towards the rest of the family when defending Sugni in the past, I am quite sure he would not be afraid of his Mother taking away his favourite toy. Vikram has always been a strong person. It is quite clear he is not even that close to his Mother.
When one does not understand love Vikram might seem crazy. When you have truly experienced love, then Vikram's emotions and fears would be totally understood. Vikram is not a spiritual man, so he would not have been able to handle what he is going through in a more rational manner, but that does not mean his feels are not justified.
Also, I do not agree with him wasting his emotions over a girl that does not deserve him, that is the part that annoys me.
Otherwise, I wish the cvs did not go this far for him to waste his good reputation as a gentleman on man handling a prostitute.
Just my two cents.
Edited by hillydee - 13 November 2012 at 8:11pm