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Episode 121 Discussion: 9th Nov 2012 (Page 13)

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Posted: 11 November 2012 at 4:56pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Gurtiluv

Another thought crossed my mind, is this whole Shamsher track a part of RK's redemption. That he was willing to hide the fact that Shamsher tried to kill him because he realized how he had wronged the Malik family. That he held the truth because he couldnt bare to hurt Madhu any further. I think RK will play a role in helping Madhu and Shamsher sort out this mess.

I am of the opinion that RK doesn't need to redeem himself at all...

 I think RK is a kind of person who behaves with you the way you behave with him... You show genuine care and concern for him , he would return the same to you and when somebody hurts him, he gives it back to them in his own way.. Tit for tat... That is all he knows... And coz all his life, people around him have been selfish,mean and have not shown love,care towards him so  the bad-boy image...

 His ego, his pride was hurt so he made Madhu's living life hell...Living with madhu, he has realised that she is a very caring and gentle soul and despite the badness he showed to her, she wished only good for him... So he is also thinking only good for her...  

And if at all you think he has to be redeemed, then i think that started off when he got the foreign machines for Malik's treatment


Edited by zoya_naziya - 11 November 2012 at 5:01pm

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Posted: 11 November 2012 at 5:16pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Red_Opium

@Preet, so happy to see you.  I totally agree with you about how ridiculous Yash acted out after sharing an intimate night with his wife.  But capturing their intimate night before his love declaration was not a bad idea by the CVs, it made sense to me.  We all know that none of these men have taken the vow of celibacy and no one is practicing to become a monk

@Madhu's sorry and will be back soon, I don't think anyone discussed that.  There was reference to her statement only to question her ability of return back on time, nothing more in details (at least that's what I remember).  I think she made the promise due to: guilt (leaving without RK's permission) and self reassurance (hoping that her gut feeling is wrong and Malik is innocent), hence she will return back soon.

@Junior artist, ROFLROFLROFL Shri I'm totally in love with your unique observational techniques.  No one can get anything passed by you, am I glad that you never were my teacher or professor.  Passing your class assignments would have been more impossible than missions that are handed to Agent Ethan Matthew Hunt (of Mission Impossible film series).
 

Thanks for your take on Madhu's lines from right before she was leaving RK.  The way in which she said it and the words that she used I was left wondering why didn't she just slip out quietly.  

@SD - I'm there with Zoe, I cannot believe that you picked those out! lol  Awesome!!  Your observational skills are mindblowing - you could probably give Shawn Spencer (of Psych) a run for his money if you were wanting to open up your own private investigating firm. 


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Posted: 11 November 2012 at 5:18pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by 0-SD-0

Hey All,

Never much paid attention to this. As the revenge drama has ended and hate story is coming to an end with closures at all places, I was tempted to go back and watch Balraj and RK interaction in the jail.

Look at this video. Between 10 to 11th minute, Balraj is advising RK to finish off Madhubala business forever. RK seems to be contemplating over that. So was he partially influenced by Balraj's company in the jail for 4 days ? I just wonder...


And check from 15th minute. Balraj speaks about Padmini and that food.

So this is yet another unfinished business. An encounter played out that nicely, should not go waste in the overall storyline. That's my thought.


I went back and watched these scenes the day that Madhu opened up to RK about her past and her biological father.  It was actually really well done and I remember being like WTH?! when I first saw it.  There's definitely story to be told from that encounter, a whole track of its own, which was a smart way for the writers to prop open a door to be opened later.  

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Posted: 11 November 2012 at 6:42pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by zoya_naziya

Originally posted by 0-SD-0

Hey All,

Never much paid attention to this. As the revenge drama has ended and hate story is coming to an end with closures at all places, I was tempted to go back and watch Balraj and RK interaction in the jail.

Look at this video. Between 10 to 11th minute, Balraj is advising RK to finish off Madhubala business forever. RK seems to be contemplating over that. So was he partially influenced by Balraj's company in the jail for 4 days ? I just wonder...


And check from 15th minute. Balraj speaks about Padmini and that food.

So this is yet another unfinished business. An encounter played out that nicely, should not go waste in the overall storyline. That's my thought.

The encounter between RK and Balraj was indeed an interesting and a smart move by the writers at that time for the story and events that will occur in the future and it was  only sensible that RK be the one privy to this info after all it is related to Madhu..

 I hope the writers have not forgotten about this and actually stick to the intended story line and save us from all the clunkiness and bloopers... I really want the entire team to remain smart,alert and deliver what was promised to to the viewers.. I fear where they will lose focus and show crap in the name of TRP's   

I was reminded of this scene the day Madhu narrates her mother's tale to RK and talks about balraj... Coz Balraj in his rendezvous with RK mentions Pads as being his sec wife and also mentions that he belongs to motihari village but he says that his wife and kids being killed... But I knew that RK's bulb will not glow at that time coz it is a very huge track in itself which has to be played out later if they stick to the initial story line..

But I have always wondered how Balraj knew that he has a daughter called Madhubala? I have not seen those parts of the story so i was kinda confused when Ballu mentions ki one madhubala has ruined my life too... Wasn't Madhubala named by A.K Hangal on the sets she was born? And Ballu thought his unborn daughter was dead along with his wife

Zoya,

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Balraj attempted twice. Shamsher protected Padmini twice I guess. First time, Madhu is not born. Second time Madhu was born. This is how I remember the story as and Balraj's repetitive attempts were the reason why Shamsher chose to stage the death drama of Padmini and her daughters.

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Posted: 11 November 2012 at 7:05pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by reenap


Pls read . New TOI article.
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3285248

RadhajiAngryAngry



And DD''s interview...Smile

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3285295



Your emoticons are spot on...

Last week Dipali, this week Dipali and Radhaji...to annoy us


Drashti seems to be a really sweet girl
...the craze for Geet that I see on this forum, I actually feel like watching it just to find out what it was all about. She is so level headed about it

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Posted: 11 November 2012 at 7:09pm | IP Logged
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Balraj attempted twice. Shamsher protected Padmini twice I guess. First time, Madhu is not born. Second time Madhu was born. This is how I remember the story as and Balraj's repetitive attempts were the reason why Shamsher chose to stage the death drama of Padmini and her daughters.
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Thanks SD. SO many links to current episodes are actually embedded in the earlier episodes that I did'nt watch.
I watched the hospital scene yesterday where RK 'proposes' to Madhu, fabulous scene, and he actually reveals a bit about his dad to Madhu. I must add that Madhu looks 'luminously beautiful' in those episodes. I do wish she'd reduce the make up a bit.

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Posted: 11 November 2012 at 7:11pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by zoya_naziya

Originally posted by Gurtiluv

Another thought crossed my mind, is this whole Shamsher track a part of RK's redemption. That he was willing to hide the fact that Shamsher tried to kill him because he realized how he had wronged the Malik family. That he held the truth because he couldnt bare to hurt Madhu any further. I think RK will play a role in helping Madhu and Shamsher sort out this mess.

I am of the opinion that RK doesn't need to redeem himself at all...

 I think RK is a kind of person who behaves with you the way you behave with him... You show genuine care and concern for him , he would return the same to you and when somebody hurts him, he gives it back to them in his own way.. Tit for tat... That is all he knows... And coz all his life, people around him have been selfish,mean and have not shown love,care towards him so  the bad-boy image...

 His ego, his pride was hurt so he made Madhu's living life hell...Living with madhu, he has realised that she is a very caring and gentle soul and despite the badness he showed to her, she wished only good for him... So he is also thinking only good for her...  

And if at all you think he has to be redeemed, then i think that started off when he got the foreign machines for Malik's treatment

Zoya,

I go with you. I agree RK is not a person who needs to redeem himself. As he very well knows that he was doing wrong. What was needed of him was to get back his TAMEEZ. Remember he always calls himself Badtameez.  He needed a prod stick (his mother that night)  to put some shame into himself so as to limit his madness.
While he was on a destructive madness path, he saw same kind of stubborn spirit in Madhu, but who had a heart which controlled her madness. Remember all the scenes where she always prefers losing to RK, because she cannot stoop low beyond a limit. This RK keeps on seeing, ridiculing her at her stopping and not being like him. But Madhu's choice to do right rather than become like him, starts actually putting a sense of shame into him. 

And the final straw was Shamsher. There he saw man against man fight. Another man equally turned into a beast with his actions. This through Madhu's interaction and influence and just for her, RK doesn't like at all ...how things turned into. So he considers that ending the madness is the solution.  Perfectly logical conclusion. You think bad, you create mess, you should also be capable to resolve the mess.

In this context, Balraj is again another madness. So Rishabh being still what he is from core, will help him deal with Balraj in future. A redeemed RK is no answer to Balraj.  It was Shamsher's saviour-madness that helped him save Padmini and her kids. So RK type of madness will finall end Balraj madness.

Oh! I am dying to get started with this part...of course we need to have Madhu all happy, in love and be famous for Balraj to get their scent. Even Trishna's success should draw him, if you ask me.


Edited by 0-SD-0 - 11 November 2012 at 7:13pm

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Posted: 11 November 2012 at 7:14pm | IP Logged
Shri, thanks for clearing my confusion regarding Balraj knowing about madhu:):)

@Balraj coming back: Even I am waiting for that to happen but i guess, we still have quite a long way to go:(

@all: Did you read the article that said that madhu would confess her love but it would turn out to be a dream..

Prolly that is more of a self-realization for madhu that she is falling for him.. 


Edited by zoya_naziya - 11 November 2012 at 7:20pm

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