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Posted: 27 November 2012 at 12:18pm | IP Logged
yes they don't, infact they go to mazaars and all, which is not part of being a muslim, but we have to accept tht it's a drama, and not reality, even in real life some people mistake islam as a religion tht supports going to dargas, and mazaars, and pray there, which is shirk, and absolutely forbidden
p.s shirk is when one associates any other creature, living or non-living with God
Originally posted by Abray

just caught a question in my mind...
since since all the characters are Muslim, why don't  they pray namaz and read Quran?

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Posted: 27 November 2012 at 12:22pm | IP Logged
ALLAH SUBHAANA-HU-WA-TA'ALAA jee is neither girl nor boy, He does not possess any human characterstics. He is the creator, and not a creature, and there is a big difference b/w the two
Originally posted by RR_VN

its because no one can see allah..even our prophet(PBUH) havent saw ALLAH..we dunt even knoe tht if ALLAH is a gurl or a boy..it says in quran tht ALLAH will be seen in the day of judgement...

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first of all, no u're not hurting any feeling, u jx wanna learn diff religions, which is absolutely ok.
however, there is no story to be told as there is no myth, it's rather about belief, none of His many creations have the power to see Him, He, however, is everywhere, we may think we can do things under secrecy, but we sometimes forget, tht doesn't matter if no other human is seeing us or not, ALLAH TA'ALAA jee is always watching, even in the darkest place, on the darkest stone, if the darkest ant exists, He watches it, and feeds it
our friend yusraa here has explained it very well
Originally posted by -Yusraa-

Is
lam is the religion of monotheism which means we believe in one God; Allah literally means one God. We cannot make it plural whereas in other words like, God we can make it plural to Gods! Anyway coming to the story you are talking about; as Muslims we believe that this whole universe and humans are created by Allah.

When we think of stars, earth, water, land, animals humans etc, don't we get a thought that there must be someone who must have created this! Well according to Islam the one and only who is powerful enough to make all these is Allah and no human being has the power to make these things. Allah has the power to do everything, he cannot be seen nor can he resemble any creature or any other thing << Which is why we don't have any animated films on Allah, cos in Islam it's wrong to make up images of Allah, cos we have never seen him, hence there haven't been any animated films as such. But if you go and research there have been films about Islam!

We humans dom't have the power to see or communicate DIRECTLY with Allah
, but there are guidelines and rules that Allah has set for us which we as Muslims need to follow and all this information is provided in the Holy Quran, which was bought to us by the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), who was the last messenger of Allah.

You see this is a hard concept to explain and hence I'm not gonna go into technicalities, cos this isn't exactly the right place to go in such detail.

Knowing all about Islam is very lengthy and you need to go into a lot of detail and you should know everything to understand it correctly, otherwise you might misunderstand it!

Hope that helped :)

Originally posted by payalibm

lots of stories and animated films and serial ahs been made on ramayan and mahabharata nd other gods even in jessus too...but i never got to see anything about allah...can some one plzz enlight me the story of allah...if its not against there rules and customs...i wud love to knwo about allah and his teaching to humanity...


ps - i hope i am not hurting nayones feelings... plzz frgave if i ahve asked or said soem thing against anyones feelings..i am extreme sorry for that

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Posted: 27 November 2012 at 12:56pm | IP Logged
i'm sorry if i hurt your beliefs, but no, Hazrat Adam(Aa-dum) aleh-salaam was the first human created, yes the world is created jx bcz of Prophet Muhammad Salallah-hu-alaihi-wasallum, and his name was decided before anything was even created, and he was only made of soil, like other humans, if he was given any other special power he wouldn't have been a human, but an angel, and people wouldn't have been asked to follow the directions guided by him
sorry again, if i might have hurt ya or yer beliefs/feelings in any way
Originally posted by an_k

Originally posted by payalibm

thnxx guysss for such lovely feed back

well ummm you all told me about islam and humanity and teaching... and his messenger to unvierse... ummm if its not against rul to ask or to say about
who was Hazarat Muhammad - why was he choose as the last prophet...is there any story behind it keyaa...if its not agaist your rules to speak aboutt then i shure wana learn about how he bacme prophet and why was he only choosen as the last one ... 

Actually Allah created Adam from soil ,and we believe all the humans are made of it too ...but Prophet Muhammad is the only one who is not made of soil only he has the Noor of Allah Almighty too so we can say he is was made by Allah before Allah created anything else and he is made of soil and Part of Allah ...

""Allah created the universe on the foundation of love and Prophet Muhamamad is BELOVED of Allah Almighty ...HE is the first creation of Allah...HE is the Ultimate love of Allah ...Allah wanted to show his love for his beloved so he created the Universe...And appointed Him as the Messenger of Allah Almighty for the rest of the universe"""...he is the one in whom all the qualities of the Universe were put in he was the choosen one and Prophet Ibrahim prayed to Allah almighty to bless his blood line with the Last Prophet ...""

When he was born he was the Prophet and had distinct characteristics of Prophet too but he himself didnt know it and Allah wanted him to be a normal human being infront of all the others to make it visible to them that he is the righteous man in actual...He got to know that he is a prophet of Allah at the age of 40...even before being declared as Prophet the Arabs use to respect him alot because of his good traits and he was the most TRUTHFUL AND HONEST man around he was called as SAdIQ n Amin by them 


He was created at first and sent in last as a Prophet the basic logic is he came for the completion of the Message of Allah Almighty so first all the others came and gave the same message but the message was incomplete ,Allah knew it before and that was the way he schemed it and evry other Prophet knew it and mentioned in their teachings that the completition wd be done by the last Prophet Muhammad(Peace be upon him)...

i hope i have answered ur query and i am obliged u have asked
feel free to ask and if u get bored by details then do tell i will try even more to be shrter the next time

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Posted: 27 November 2012 at 1:55pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by payalibm

Originally posted by an_k

Originally posted by payalibm

lots of stories and animated films and serial ahs been made on ramayan and mahabharata nd other gods even in jessus too...but i never got to see anything about allah...can some one plzz enlight me the story of allah...if its not against there rules and customs...i wud love to knwo about allah and his teaching to humanity...

ps - i hope i am not hurting nayones feelings... plzz frgave if i ahve asked or said soem thing against anyones feelings..i am extreme sorry for that


 A very nice question Payal...technically Islam is a religion of logic we basically first become Nuetral and see around on the happenings of the Universe we see every thing needs a creator and that creator has to be powerfull and dominant which is termed as DEVINE power...Islam explains this DEVINE power  and term is as Allah ,HE is the Sole Creator He is the only one ,there is no companion of Allah,there is no one like him no partner n freind no companion as these relations are needed by someone who is not complete...ALLAH Taala  tells about himself in Quran ...""I was a hidden treasure and i decided to show myself and i showed it""

Allah has Angels but Angels don't have a power to think and decide at their own so Allah created Humans and then added soul to them and gave them the ability to think and decide, and then gave them this life to go into the world and themselves decide who is that ultimate devine power...Allah says the ones who are the ones with positive mind and intentions will some way or the other find Him n the others won't and on the day of judgement with the proof of the deeds done by the Humans ALLah will grant them with Paradise or Hell...so its just a test zone for all created by Allah

Allah doesnot want us to be a Muslim just by the way ...like if we are just born in a Muslim family even then Allah asks us to go out ponder upon the happenings of the Universe and search for the right message ...read Islam even know abt other religions and then decide which is the best one among all.

Before Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him)Allah sent 1 lakh 24 thousand messengers to guide the world at different places at different point of time ...4 of them had complete religions with them
1.HAZRAT DAOOD (this religion doenot exist anymore)

2.HAZRAT MUSA (He is the prophet who came with JEWISM and jews were the ones guided by Musa aka MOSEPH)

3.HAZRAT EESA(He is the prophet who came with Christanity and Christains were the ones guided by Jesus )



@red - so you mean to say christanity was born from ISLAM and jesus christ was the messenger of prophet muhammad send to earth by him as jesus christ was one of those 1 lakh 24 thousand messenger send to earth Shocked
yes u got it right, but there are a few differences in wht we believe and in wht christians believe, according to Islam, Christianity was never supposed to be, the teachings were to worship Allah Ta'alaa jee, and Him only, but after the crucifiction(which didn't even happen as Hazrat Esa alaih-salaam was brought to the skies - he didn't die - before tht and his resemblance was put in another man, i'm not sure who) christians began to believe tht he was the son of God, and have developed many different theories. to put it briefly, believers of every past religion have changed it's teachings, but Islam is the one tht remains intact even after all these years
p.s this is only wht i believe, i do not intend on hurting anyone's beliefs, or feelings, i apologize if anyone has felt offended

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Posted: 27 November 2012 at 2:16pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Risha.J

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Exactly, in his condition, if he was real, he would be punished for not fulfilling the rights of his first wife and her kids. In that condition his remarriage is not permissible.

Plus, think of what our society does to widows, unmarried old women, divorcees and even rape victims. Think about the light under which they are seen in society. To offer protection, if some man wants to provide shelter to her, and is prohibited only by religion and not by his previous wife, then it is cruel, isn't it?

Basically, this aspect or rule is based more on the practical side... as in sab ke liye kiya acha hoga as compared to merey liye kiya acha hai.
yeah! many people do treat women like tht, but tht's not the way a woman should be treated, and in Islam it is completely forbidden to treat any person, man or woman with disrespect, disregard, and brutality

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ok so i would like to take this opportunity to elaborate a little more on mazaars and dargas, these are places where the walis or people who devoted their lives to Islam are buried. Many people go to such places and pray or make vows(mannat), which is not right, and is forbidden in Islam.
but many muslims who do not have complete knowledge do tht, even my maternal grandmother does tht. i have tried my best to exlain it to her, but guess my best wasn't good enough. one such incident happened a long time ago, but not very long, i had become very sick, and so she vowed something like if i recovered she would take me there and i don't exactly remember do what, i guess biryaani yaa haleem baatne jaisa kuch, and when she told me to go with her i got furious, and i refused, but she took me anyhow, whateva. then when we reached there she told me to come in and as u may suspect, i refused, i said tht me bahar rahoongi aur faatiha perh ker baksh doongi, as women should not go inside the mazaar, or a graveyard, but she was resolved on taking me inside, tht's when the drama happened, i burst out, and we were one the road as she was dragging me - which is not very easy given i'm a beast, not literally ofcourse, i'm powerful - in front of all the believers i began shouting ke yeh aap galat kar rahe ho, ye gunaah hai, shirk hai, aise mannat nhi maangna chahiye, mazaar nhi jaana chahiye women ko, blah blah blah,  i don't even remember wht exactly i said, but remember telling her tht every person has the right to choose wht he/she wants to believe, thus i won't force you to stop, and neither should u force me to start believing. it took me a long time to manao her, but she eventually got over it, she had to, she loves me, and my massage skills :p
but, in short going to mazaars is okay for men, but women should not go in there, and no human, muslims at least should pray to to them, or vow
Allah Ta'alaa jee ko hume kuch dene k liye m=humse kisi exchange offer ki zaroorat nhi hai, hum agar sache dil se unki ibaadat karein aur unse dua'a maangein aur kisi aur k aage haath naa phe layein siwaye unke, tou woh humein zaroor woh denge jo hum chahte hain, agar woh naa bhi mile tou humein shukar adaa krna chahiye unka k unhone humein woh diye jo unki raza thi, and wht could be better for us than the wwill of Allah Ta'alaa jee?
 
no offense again anyone
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It is not ideal to go into the discussion of mazaars, what is shirk and is not shirk on this forum.  Because then youu are talking about different beliefs between sects and i dont think this forum is the place for debate on that.  I am of the ahle sunnah wal jamah as most people fall into this category, and i dont believe praying at a mazaar is wrong.  Our prays are always in worship of Allah Ta'la. Eesaal e sawaab, praying FOR the deceased, and sending asking for intervention from  the great Wali's and Prophet saw is a tradition that is acceptable as per hadith.  This does not mean to say  that we are giving them a status equal to Allah. 
 
However there are other sects that dont believe in this and disagree.  Which is fine.  Each to their own.
 
What we can  all agree on is that there does seem to be more focus on mazaars then actual masjid's and islam itself.  it seems to affect the lives of the characters, but only on a superficial level. 
 
Ive also noticed in indian drama's there is ALOT of shirk, e.g. people equate the love of their life to God, to prayer and ibadat.  its seems to be a c ommon theme in songs in fact.  NOW this is completely unacceptable and actually quite foolish brainwashing.  No man or woman can close to Allah Tal'a and  No human love can compare to the love of Allah Ta'la. or even his Prophets.  This is something that runs through your heart and soul as a believer.  Or SHOULD. 
 
 
Originally posted by neenzz

ok so i would like to take this opportunity to elaborate a little more on mazaars and dargas, these are places where the walis or people who devoted their lives to Islam are buried. Many people go to such places and pray or make vows(mannat), which is not right, and is forbidden in Islam.
but many muslims who do not have complete knowledge do tht, even my maternal grandmother does tht. i have tried my best to exlain it to her, but guess my best wasn't good enough. one such incident happened a long time ago, but not very long, i had become very sick, and so she vowed something like if i recovered she would take me there and i don't exactly remember do what, i guess biryaani yaa haleem baatne jaisa kuch, and when she told me to go with her i got furious, and i refused, but she took me anyhow, whateva. then when we reached there she told me to come in and as u may suspect, i refused, i said tht me bahar rahoongi aur faatiha perh ker baksh doongi, as women should not go inside the mazaar, or a graveyard, but she was resolved on taking me inside, tht's when the drama happened, i burst out, and we were one the road as she was dragging me - which is not very easy given i'm a beast, not literally ofcourse, i'm powerful - in front of all the believers i began shouting ke yeh aap galat kar rahe ho, ye gunaah hai, shirk hai, aise mannat nhi maangna chahiye, mazaar nhi jaana chahiye women ko, blah blah blah,  i don't even remember wht exactly i said, but remember telling her tht every person has the right to choose wht he/she wants to believe, thus i won't force you to stop, and neither should u force me to start believing. it took me a long time to manao her, but she eventually got over it, she had to, she loves me, and my massage skills :p
but, in short going to mazaars is okay for men, but women should not go in there, and no human, muslims at least should pray to to them, or vow
Allah Ta'alaa jee ko hume kuch dene k liye m=humse kisi exchange offer ki zaroorat nhi hai, hum agar sache dil se unki ibaadat karein aur unse dua'a maangein aur kisi aur k aage haath naa phe layein siwaye unke, tou woh humein zaroor woh denge jo hum chahte hain, agar woh naa bhi mile tou humein shukar adaa krna chahiye unka k unhone humein woh diye jo unki raza thi, and wht could be better for us than the wwill of Allah Ta'alaa jee?
 
no offense again anyone
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