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Posted: 03 November 2012 at 5:09pm | IP Logged
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I agree with each and every word of yours and love the post. I myself have an older brother who despite being 18 months older is over protective of me...He's always saying don't do this or that and to an extent I agree with his views. It's the same for Asad.
Asad has too wear a suit as it's an office... you'd have no choice and I don't think he has much of a problem with Najma wearing jeans- he said that if you have to change yourself to please others then there's no point..as with Najma-she wants to wear jeans because others are wearing them not because she herself wants too...Islam says to dress appropritely and in a way which doesn't attract others attention. In India/Pakistan, I'm sure wearing jeans would attract attention of males, I mean I live in the UK and am studying at university.. I wears jeans to university. I'd probably get more attention for wearing Shalwar Kameez to uni that jeans as I'd stand out more and look different. Asad was fine with Najma going there but doesn't want her to change herself for others and rightfully so...the fact that she didn't argue shows she respects her brother and knows he'll do whats best for her. Asad is deeply rooted into his culture aswell as religion. I mean anyone- whether muslim or HIndu wouldn't want their sisters out late..like he said he'll pick her up and drop her. My brother says the same thing...It's a brothers nature to be overly protective and Asad is a father to Najma aswell as a brother so he isn't wrong in that sense..
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hey!its a humble request...can you please take out hindu and muslim word out from your post and insted there are other words like cast and all you can put...already enough going in world regrding this 2 cast people...plzz dont give evena remote chance to any oen to create war betwen hindu and muslim...and here no one has said anythign agaist his taking care of his sister..this is not only ofr hindu or muslim but for evry single brother and sister normal aspect..be in east west north south...evry bro cares for sis...even younger bro who ahs grown up also takes care of elder sis...so huble request..plz take out the word hindu and muslim from your post

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payal
 
I agree with what you're saying. I've taken hindu/muslim out. I didn't mean to offend anyone, but I'm saying exactly what you're saying...Brothers always are protective of their sisters, it's in their nature...Sorry if you're offended...
 

no ways offended...no ways...infact quit happy you understood my point easily and took the necessary step...
yhnxxx buddyyy... Hug

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Posted: 03 November 2012 at 5:19pm | IP Logged
Wow that one heck of an insightful postClap

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Posted: 03 November 2012 at 5:20pm | IP Logged
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<font color="#0000ff" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"><font size="3">exctlyyy...</font><font size="2">if he is not wearing 24\7 then why asking her to wear 24\7...and most of all his mom dint had issue with her daughter wearing jeans but she cudnt help it as she knew asad wont like it...so again its a typical indian male ego on work... (i am gladly and happily stating it now) all indian men will behave exctly like asad is behaving...but ...but...20 to 30 years before... now things have chnged...and welll..think he said about culture and tradition...lolzz people will make more fun of her if she goes in her tradition attire...evry place has its own codes...evry one in westerna dn she will be in tradition attire...so as one member stated leaving in UK and wearing jeans and no one bothers but if she goes in uni wearing slawar people will defo. stare so same here in club when no one would notice her if she mingles like others..but think club full of western wear and all and suddenly one comes in salwar suit...lolzz.what asad meyan wanted to protect much will be reveled extreme as then not people...lolzz.but even waiters and bar tenders and evry oen including females will also stare towards the dreesss and person...this is absurd..ridiculs...he cant wear kurta in office as out of place and not good and her sister should wear same even if its out of place and if feels so should stop going to that place and if go bear the shame...lolzzz...but same dosent apply on him...hehehhe..complite indian typical man orthodox thoughtsss... i am happyyy its nothing of any cast... but of male and its gypocracy and egoitsm...MCP...</font></font>


Payal Payal Payal
Darling plz cool down for a while and just imagine yourself in place of Asad and consider me Najma.
You know what Asad is by this time and I've come for the same permission.Plz answer me what would have been ur reply to my request as per ASAD on wearing jeans for the first time for the sake of my friends...

I'll reply to this post of yours after you answer my question..


no i cant imagine myself...i am a open person...i belive in change and thatif its for goodd...and swetheart there is always 1st time for evry thing love...if there will not be 1st time then how there will be any time...
being a teacher i belive in equality among all humans...no disremantion regrding sex or colour or monetory basis... i have a teaching institue..i have a son of my sweeper,the man who was here since last 14yrs...when i came as a daughter in law in this house and student of upper calss society and my eldest daughter... but as soon as i keep my legs in my center i am only one thing teacher...no mother no favour...my all students play together...what punishment i gv others for the mistake same goes to my kiddo...i belive this is the age where equlity can be input in child regading humans and humanity...
whateva you say darling...whateva,no point no thoughts can change the simple issue about the statemnt he gave to his sister...and the statement he gave to her...1st he should input it on himself...this is my only issue...and well it has been since the day i became teacher to evry man...male..out there..why double face...this has to be changed...serzzllyyy need to be changeddd...

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Posted: 03 November 2012 at 5:28pm | IP Logged
Great work Asma. I m sure many of them had doubt about it. You write very well and it was surely needed.Clap

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Posted: 03 November 2012 at 5:36pm | IP Logged
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<font color="#0000ff" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"><font size="3">exctlyyy...</font><font size="2">if he is not wearing 24\7 then why asking her to wear 24\7...and most of all his mom dint had issue with her daughter wearing jeans but she cudnt help it as she knew asad wont like it...so again its a typical indian male ego on work... (i am gladly and happily stating it now) all indian men will behave exctly like asad is behaving...but ...but...20 to 30 years before... now things have chnged...and welll..think he said about culture and tradition...lolzz people will make more fun of her if she goes in her tradition attire...evry place has its own codes...evry one in westerna dn she will be in tradition attire...so as one member stated leaving in UK and wearing jeans and no one bothers but if she goes in uni wearing slawar people will defo. stare so same here in club when no one would notice her if she mingles like others..but think club full of western wear and all and suddenly one comes in salwar suit...lolzz.what asad meyan wanted to protect much will be reveled extreme as then not people...lolzz.but even waiters and bar tenders and evry oen including females will also stare towards the dreesss and person...this is absurd..ridiculs...he cant wear kurta in office as out of place and not good and her sister should wear same even if its out of place and if feels so should stop going to that place and if go bear the shame...lolzzz...but same dosent apply on him...hehehhe..complite indian typical man orthodox thoughtsss... i am happyyy its nothing of any cast... but of male and its gypocracy and egoitsm...MCP...</font></font>


Payal Payal Payal
Darling plz cool down for a while and just imagine yourself in place of Asad and consider me Najma.
You know what Asad is by this time and I've come for the same permission.Plz answer me what would have been ur reply to my request as per ASAD on wearing jeans for the first time for the sake of my friends...

I'll reply to this post of yours after you answer my question..



no i cant imagine myself...i am a open person...i belive in change and thatif its for goodd...and swetheart there is always 1st time for evry thing love...if there will not be 1st time then how there will be any time...
being a teacher i belive in equality among all humans...no disremantion regrding sex or colour or monetory basis... i have a teaching institue..i have a son of my sweeper,the man who was here since last 14yrs...when i came as a daughter in law in this house and student of upper calss society and my eldest daughter... but as soon as i keep my legs in my center i am only one thing teacher...no mother no favour...my all students play together...what punishment i gv others for the mistake same goes to my kiddo...i belive this is the age where equlity can be input in child regading humans and humanity...
whateva you say darling...whateva,no point no thoughts can change the simple issue about the statemnt he gave to his sister...and the statement he gave to her...1st he should input it on himself...this is my only issue...and well it has been since the day i became teacher to evry man...male..out there..why double face...this has to be changed...serzzllyyy need to be changeddd...


Reserved..
I'll put across my point of view tomorrow now.
I can't write anymore.
But yes if you wish to call Asad another male patriarch Payal i'm afraid we are going to have a long debate over this issue.
I'm loving the way you are expressing your opinion by the way...
Asad believes in equality and freedom for sure I believe.
I'll put down my views in relation to your well made points very soon.
Thanks a lot for your wonderful comments jana
Love you
Muah!
Take care!

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Posted: 03 November 2012 at 5:36pm | IP Logged
lolzzz...you guyss serzlyyy made my day and took my night tooo...lolzzz its 5am...an dlolzz i didnt even took a simple wink...lolzzz...i need to take a break and rest little bfr i strt my day
had a lvly time discussing...
certinly a tehzeeb walee place his forum is...Clap
love u alll Hug
hey crazy pm me the link if u will reply...when i will be back with time will chk out and reply..ohk
gumorning swetuusss
byeee

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Posted: 03 November 2012 at 5:38pm | IP Logged
Excelent post sis.
You rightly put what islamic culture is.
You are also superb in explaining asad behaviour.
personaly i have no issue about muslim girl wearing jinse.
Some of my cousin sister also wear jinse
But i also think it is wrong to think only the girl who wear jinse are modern and open minded.
Suppose one of my cousin sister wear jinse and one wear salwar kamiz.
So the cousin sister who wear salwar kamiz show respect to the decision of the other cousin sister wearing jinse.
But the other cousin sister who wear jinse say to the cousin sister who wear salwar kamiz that you wear salwar kamiz you are not modern and open minded like me.
Clearly the sister who wear jinse don't show any respect to the other cousin sister's decision and try to establish that only her wearing dress can be accepted as symbol of modernity and open mentality.
So who is the modern and open minded between my two cousin sister.
For me in that case its my cousin sister who wear salwar kamiz represents open mentality and modernity.
Because she wear what she like, she did not have problem other person wear something different ,she respects other sister's personal choice,she did not try to impose her thinking on her sister and did not try to show any kind of superiority over her sister.
Thats called modernity and open mentality.
Thats why its said people becomes modern and open minded by their thinking not by the cloth they wear.
Just some one wear salwar kamiz or sari you can't say they are not modern and open minded.
Modernity and Open mentality is much bigger thing than cloth.
Modernity also does not allow you to think just because he/she wear different cloth they are not modern like you.
Modernity also say your wearing cloth can prove your modernity.
Open mentality also say respect others value.
Open mentality also encouraged us to not judge a person modernity just by his/her cloth.
Open mentality also does not encourage to creat pressure on his/her to wear perticular dress just for the sake looking you think it defines modernity.

So if we start to think modernity and open mentality can be measured by cloth slection than it will be very wrong thinking.
Modernity and open mentality encourage inclusiveness ,pluralstic thinking process.
But when you say moderntity depends on you wearing a particular type dress only and by wearing other type of dress you won't be modern and opend minded is pure exclusiveness.

Where exclusiveness exist and where inclusiveness and pluralistic thinking process is absent is can be call anything but not modernity and open mentality.








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Posted: 03 November 2012 at 5:40pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by payalibm

lolzzz...you guyss serzlyyy made my day and took my night tooo...lolzzz its 5am...an dlolzz i didnt even took a simple wink...lolzzz...i need to take a break and rest little bfr i strt my day
had a lvly time discussing...
certinly a tehzeeb walee place his forum is...Clap
love u alllHug
hey crazy pm me the link if u will reply...when i will be back with time will chk out and reply..ohk
gumorning swetuusss
byeee


Same here my mum will kill me gets awake this time and finds me online.
This forum has my heart now..
LOL You are calling me crazy.Well I'm crazy for ASad miyan you see and I'll go on defending him. Ha ha ha ROFL
I'll surely pm you the link of my reply but before that I'll first update my ff coz readers will kill me if I don't.Because of this thread I could not write much tonight...
I'm so dead now.Dead
Take rest sweety.
Bye
Asma

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