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Hey guys, I made some avis and sigs of Debina as Lakshmi Ma and Devi Durga. I could not resist the pictures, she was just so beautiful!Day Dreaming

 
 
 
This sig is a blend of Gurmeet as Mahadev (from a tandav he did in Jhalak Dhikla Jaa) and Debina as Devi Durga (from Sab's Diwali Utsav). I think our Ram-Sita look awesome as Shiv-Shakti!Day Dreaming
 
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Here are the avis. They're not that great but I've never been that good making avis of dances.Embarrassed All those flashing lights mess up my coloring.AngryLOL

   

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Originally posted by JanakiRaghunath

 
 
Also, the biggest proof we have is that Valmiki Ramayan starts with Uttar Kand. What I mean by that is, we hear the whole story through Luv Kush's song. Ramayan starts with Luv Kush narrating the story of Rama, how Valmikiji cursed the nishada hunter and was told to write the Ramayana by Lord Brahma. Luv Kush then take us into Bal Kand and from there we hear the whole story.

Janu, Can you explain me the importance of Valmikiji cursing the hunter? I just always gets confused at this point!

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Originally posted by Varnita.

Originally posted by JanakiRaghunath

 
 
Also, the biggest proof we have is that Valmiki Ramayan starts with Uttar Kand. What I mean by that is, we hear the whole story through Luv Kush's song. Ramayan starts with Luv Kush narrating the story of Rama, how Valmikiji cursed the nishada hunter and was told to write the Ramayana by Lord Brahma. Luv Kush then take us into Bal Kand and from there we hear the whole story.

Janu, Can you explain me the importance of Valmikiji cursing the hunter? I just always gets confused at this point!

 
When Valmikiji cursed the hunter, he realized that he had done it in prose style instead of using normal language. He was greatly disturbed and Brahma Dev told him that he cursed the hunter that way because he was destined to write the Ramayana, the adi kavya, in prose style. So Brahma Dev gave him divya drishti where he was able to see the entire Ramayana as it happened, and write about it.
 
So the significance of Valmikiji's curse is that it gave birth to the Ramayana.Smile

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OMG Janu, i am dead with your new stuff of Gurmina Dead How the hell Such concepts come in your mind yar! Shocked I applaud your creativity seriously Clap Combining Gurmeet and Debina as Shiv and Durga is such a brilliant idea, hats off. The coloring, effects and textures are just suiting it thoroughly. Nice text and Text Style! Thumbs Up Overall a very very professional Sig by a professional sigmaker! WinkClap Same applies to Debina's Lakshmi Maa Sigs. I love them all to the coreee including the avis!! Thanks for making them! You are actually a genius..Your student is just so lazy in this case! EmbarrassedLOL
Using them all! Big smile

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Originally posted by JanakiRaghunath

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Also, the biggest proof we have is that Valmiki Ramayan starts with Uttar Kand. What I mean by that is, we hear the whole story through Luv Kush's song. Ramayan starts with Luv Kush narrating the story of Rama, how Valmikiji cursed the nishada hunter and was told to write the Ramayana by Lord Brahma. Luv Kush then take us into Bal Kand and from there we hear the whole story.

Janu, Can you explain me the importance of Valmikiji cursing the hunter? I just always gets confused at this point!

 
When Valmikiji cursed the hunter, he realized that he had done it in prose style instead of using normal language. He was greatly disturbed and Brahma Dev told him that he cursed the hunter that way because he was destined to write the Ramayana, the adi kavya, in prose style. So Brahma Dev gave him divya drishti where he was able to see the entire Ramayana as it happened, and write about it.
 
So the significance of Valmikiji's curse is that it gave birth to the Ramayana.Smile

Ohh I see! But dont you think that the hunter dosent deserve the Curse? I mean that was his job for earning bread, isnt it? Why he is cursed for doing his Job? Confused
One more thing, ASR has shown that Valmikiji was already writing Ramayana before cursing that Hunter! Remember he was highly disturbed with the upcoming story of Ramayan about Sita Vanvaas when Naradji suggested him to go to that pond for having some peace where he cursed that hunter! So according to this he already had divine dristi before cursing him? Then what does that Curse mean? Is it a blooper of ASR? Confused

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Originally posted by Varnita.

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Also, the biggest proof we have is that Valmiki Ramayan starts with Uttar Kand. What I mean by that is, we hear the whole story through Luv Kush's song. Ramayan starts with Luv Kush narrating the story of Rama, how Valmikiji cursed the nishada hunter and was told to write the Ramayana by Lord Brahma. Luv Kush then take us into Bal Kand and from there we hear the whole story.

Janu, Can you explain me the importance of Valmikiji cursing the hunter? I just always gets confused at this point!

 
When Valmikiji cursed the hunter, he realized that he had done it in prose style instead of using normal language. He was greatly disturbed and Brahma Dev told him that he cursed the hunter that way because he was destined to write the Ramayana, the adi kavya, in prose style. So Brahma Dev gave him divya drishti where he was able to see the entire Ramayana as it happened, and write about it.
 
So the significance of Valmikiji's curse is that it gave birth to the Ramayana.Smile

Ohh I see! But dont you think that the hunter dosent deserve the Curse? I mean that was his job for earning bread, isnt it? Why he is cursed for doing his Job? Confused
One more thing, ASR has shown that Valmikiji was already writing Ramayana before cursing that Hunter! Remember he was highly disturbed with the upcoming story of Ramayan about Sita Vanvaas when Naradji suggested him to go to that pond for having some peace where he cursed that hunter! So according to this he already had divine dristi before cursing him? Then what does that Curse mean? Is it a blooper of ASR? Confused
 
I don't know, Varnita. I don't think the curse was unfair, because in our scriptures it says that even when a hunter hunts to earn his bread, he cannot hunt two animals who are copulating. It's considered sinful, because while killing one he automatically kills another. Remember, when one of the birds died, the other bird died of heartbreak? The second death which occurred would be considered murder, because the hunter needed only one bird to feed his family. He did not need another and when you kill an animal needlessly, it's considered unethical. So Valmikiji was completely fair with his curse.Smile
 
As for ASR, it did not show a blooper. The truth is that Valmikiji knew about the Ramayana before the curse. Narad muni came to him and told him about Shri Ram and why he's called maryada purushotham. While Valmiki wondered how he was to write the story and do it justice, he decided to take a bath at the tamasa river and that's when he saw the two krauncha birds.

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Here is the story of Valmiki and his curse:

 

Maharshi Valmiki, the author of the great Indian epic Ramayana, was a Hindu sage who lived around the beginning of the first millennium B.C. He is referred to as the 'adikavi', the original creator of the Hindu 'sloka' - a verse form in which most of the great epics such as Ramayana, Mahabharata, Puranas, and other works are composed.

How Valmiki Got His Name

He was a Brahman by birth belonging to the lineage of Bhrigu. Fate consigned him to a family of robbers which brought him up. Accidental contact with the Saptarsis - the Seven Sages and with the sage Narada changed his life. By the repetition of Ramanama or the name of Ram, he attained the supreme state of a 'maharshi' or great sage. Since a 'valmika' or an anthill had grown over his body during his long period of austerities and poised state of penance, he came to be known as Valmiki.

The Epic Vision

When the mythical sage Narada came to his hermitage, Valmiki who received him with due honor, posed a question - who was an ideal man? The reply came from Narada in the form of Samkshepa Ramayana which formed the foundation on which the magnificent 24,000 verse edifice was built by Valmiki. Then, immersed deep into this story, Valmiki left for the river Tamasa with his disciple Bharadwaj. The pleasant and placid river reminded the seer of the mature and modest quality of his hero. He visualized a pure and pious man's mind reflected in the deep waters. In the next instant he witnessed a heartless hunter mercilessly killing a male bird that was in love with its mate. The piteous wailing of the distressed female moved the heart of the sage so much that he spontaneously uttered a curse on the hunter. However, this curse came out of his mouth in the form of a 'sloka', a perfectly metrical composition, which surprised the sage himself: "No - You shall not command any respect in society for a long time as you have shot dead an innocent bird engrossed in love". The sage had turned into a poet.

Lord Brahma's Command

His powerful emotions found equally powerful medium for their manifestation. It was a spontaneous outburst of his inner voice motivated by divine will. When he returned to his hermitage, Brahma (the fourfaced God, the creator), appeared to him and commanded him to compose an epic poem on the story of Ram as he had heard it from the great sage Narada, in his newly discovered metre. He also gave him the boon of the visions of all the incidents and the revelation of all the secrets connected with the story. Accordingly, Valmiki composed the epic, named it The Ramayana - the way or the conduct or the lifestory of Ram - the story of Ram's march in search of truth and righteousness.

A contemporary of the heroes of the Ramayana, Maharshi Valmiki gives very little information about himself since he was a sage who had completely dedicated his life to contemplation on God and service to humanity. History has no account of his life except that he figures briefly and modestly on two occasions in the course of the epic he wrote:

Valmiki's Cameo in Ramayana

He is one of the first sages whose hermitage Ram visits along with his wife and brother on his way to Chitrakoot after leaving Ayuodhya. Valmiki welcomes them with love, affection and reverence and utters just one word 'asyatam' (be seated). He feels honored when Ram accepts his request and sits a while.

The other occasion is when Ram banishes Sita, it is Valmiki that shelters her and rears up her twin sons Luv and Kush. When they recite the epic poem in his royal court, Ram invites Valmiki and requests him to bring Sita along so she can prove her chastity before the elders and sages. Valmiki is offended yet keeps his composure and says Sita would comply with Ram's wishes for he is her husband. While presenting Sita in the Mandapa (prayer hall) Valmiki utters words that highlight the penance and perseverance which Valmiki practiced his entire life.

In His Own Words

"I am the tenth son of the sage Prachetas. You belong to the great dynasty of Raghu. I do not remember to have uttered any lie so far in my life. I say that these two boys are your sons. I performed penance for thousands of years. I shall not accept the fruit of all my penance if there is any blemish in Maithili (Sita). I never entertained any ignoble thought, I never wronged any person, and I never spoke any vulgar word - I shall derive the benefit thereof only if Maithili is void of sin."

A True Sage

Valmiki was truly a Maharshi. I Panduranga Rao describes Valmiki in these words: "He was purity, penance, benevolence and meditation personified and the sole object of his dedication and contemplation was Man, a man leaves his selfish existence and lives for others identifying himself with the composite culture of the cosmic creation." The only work available of the great sage-poet, The Ramayana, has established the poet's timeless fame.
http://hinduism.about.com/od/gurussaintsofthepast/a/valmiki.htm


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