Originally posted by -Purva-
All I'm saying is that controlling a sexual urge is no more praiseworthy than controlling the urge to wet your pants. No really, it is not.
I didn't mean respect as in you gotta praise them daily. It just meant basic human regard, that separates us from the animals that we don't always act on our instincts.
Originally posted by -Purva-
Do you want to rephrase that? You mean to say that if you could own women - like men in Middle-East or from one of the KHAP Panchayats - you would not respect them? But wait a minute that's exactly how they behave. In effect are you really saying that you respect women not because they deserve to be respected but because your social situation stops you from treating them as possessions and chattels. Rethink your position.
No, no, no, definitely not. 😲 I might have worded that poorly. What I meant was that people cannot, should not be owned. They are not things. They are independent beings. So, you cannot just desire them and get them. I hope I was clear this time.
Originally posted by -Purva-
Nope women are not replacements for blow-up dolls, because women are not hiding behind stuff like "we can't help but think of sex". Women are asserting themselves as rational, emotionally-stable, physically, mentally, psychologically strong gender.
Nobody is hiding behind anything. Men are rational, emotionally-stable, physically, mentally strong. Actually that depends on individual, we shouldn't generalize for a whole sex. Individual of both sexes may or may not be above things.
Originally posted by -Purva-
In the meantime men are hiding behind "we can't help but think of sex", "if a girl is good-looking every male she knows would have imagined her naked" (again your words in an earlier post in this very thread). Seriously it is men who are behind the myths that men are slightly better than animals or that the only thing they can be good at is a bedroom performance - because that is what they claim they are thinking of most of the time, or rather every time a girl walks by.
Again, who is hiding behind what? Yes, those are my words and I stand by them. Humans are better than animals in most things. I never said they can be only good at bedroom performance. Not about every girl, and it depends on what you are doing. Sometimes you are too focused to notice anything.
Originally posted by -Purva-
And frankly I don't get the gloating feeling when I see how most men would really put themselves down so blithely and feel good about it. There are some excellent men I know - including my father, my uncles, my profs and quite a few friends and colleagues. Uniformly all of them would feel offended by the statement "men can't help but think of sex" - they would find it downright insulting to themselves; and so do I on their behalf.
Please stop defending a false statement and stop using platitudes to justify animalistic behavior - it doesn't go down well, not with your record on IF.
Nobody is gloating about anything. This isn't putting men down, it is a natural instinct.
You think I didn't know how controversial my reply can get? But I think enough is enough. Denial and repression may seem to make us feel more "civilized" in the short term but actually attains nothing. It's a natural feeling, I am not ashamed of it. This very awkwardness is why most of the men won't talk this thing with women. I doubt any man would say this face to face to some female. But that's how we are and we know it. But we know we are better than animals, so we just go on in our life behaving as humans.
You think fantasizing about someone is animalistic?