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I dont think, a person's identity depends on a surnames...I know some people who use to say,''I liked my husband's surname more'' ...One practical difficulty, If anyone want to go outside india, or what about getting visa from outside countries ? For traveling on " spouses
visa " claiming visa by virtue of her husband' s visa status , one of the
cardinal points foreign countries check is whether in the visa application ,
husband's name has been taken by the wife a her last name or surname . If not,
"spouse" visa could be refused. but she can apply separately and obtain tourist visa for limited period ...government of India shld take up this matter through diplomatic channels and
incorporate the spirit of the Indian Law in respect of changing / taking names
by women after marriage..

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@Krystal
In many rural and traditional parts of the world, there is a culture of machismo. A man is supposed to be strong and in control. It is his manly duty to put women "in their place" either through physical or emotional coercion. If a woman is independent, free spirited and not subdued by a man, then that man loses his machismo.
The notion that it is un-manly to raise hand on a woman came about during the feminist era as a way to counter the culture of machismo. Ethical arguments against violence, coercion worked only in certain societies. In society where a man has to be macho, a man would rather be violent than un-manly. That is why the notion was spread that it is unmanly to raise a hand on a woman. Even then the notion is still that a woman is weaker than a man. He has physical power over her. And only he can protect and care for her. Encouraging women to stand up for themselves and even lash out with slaps or other physical assertion also was a means to counter male dominance. This was an issue where flight could not solve problems, fight was necessary. Especially for bruised or battered women.
Ideally, neither gender ought to stronger or weaker. Society should not run on either machismo or feminism, but a balance between both genders. Violence against anyone is wrong. Depending on the circumstance it is Ok for men and women to use physical force against men or women. Unfortunately, our society is far from being ideal. The best we can do is avoid stringent notions and try to evaluate each situation on its merit.
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I'm really confused at what point you are trying to make Krystal. 
Rehan's post pointed out problems patriarchal stereotypes. The gist was that we cannot pretend to believe in equality, as long as stereotyped roles exist there will be no equality of any form.
You actually agreed to most of his post, but objected to part where he said: men who beat women are considered manly. You claimed the opposite was true.
Which is why I responded with patriarchal stereotypes and how society has perceived them over time.
Now you are saying you actually disagree with his post and equality is not possible. If this was your point, why did you agree with Rehan? Why didn't you bring it up earlier?
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I'm really confused at what point you are trying to make Krystal. 
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Rehan's post pointed out problems patriarchal stereotypes. The
gist was that we cannot pretend to believe in equality, as long as stereotyped
roles exist there will be no equality of any form.
You actually agreed to most of his post, but objected to
part where he said: men who beat women are considered manly. You claimed the
opposite was true.
Which is why I responded
with patriarchal stereotypes and how society has perceived them over time.
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