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Posted: 15 September 2012 at 11:20pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by bhach

Regarding CM..she is right...she talks about practicability...not theoretical..Hats off to her...I liked her because she knows her boundaries and wants to make sure that her son Shiv does not suffer in future...Why people hate CM...she raised shiv and for the last thirty years she is with Shiv...Anandi just came into the life of Shiv so far from few months..I totally agree with CM..she should have concerns for Shiv and she needs to get an affirmation from Anandi about Jagya..She has the right to ask Aannadi thousands of questions to see her son happy.
Being parents..they have the right and she is exercising this and it does not matter if it relates to Jagya or  not...they are getting a life partener for Shiv..and it is not just a small matter..
 
Honestly Bhach - I was wondering if I shud respond to this as you and I have very divergent views on most issues. But I just could not let it go so easily.

CM and her concerns - 
Is Shiv a baby ? Is Shiv not capable of thinking about who he wants to fall in love with ? Has anyone hidden or lied about anything to them from Anandi's family ? Is Shiv himself  little bit doubtful about Anandi's or his own affections ?

Why dos CM think she has to worry when Shiv's own mom and Dad and Daddu are not even concerned ? It made sense till she spoke to Shiv about her worries, but when no one is listening to her - Mahi, Daddu, Irawati, Anuj and Shiv - then can't she try to address Anandi's folks ? Why attack a poor defenceless Anandi all alone ?

Is it Anandi's fault she got dumped by her husband ? Bcoz she has a so-called 'past' - shud she give up her right to anything she may be able to do in her present or future ? What is this constant memories she keeps harping about ? Yes - I have memories of most things since I was 3, Does that mean I have no right to make newer memories ?

CM was WRONG in being as harsh with Anandi as she was. Telling her J is in the village is one thing. Accusing her that she is lying about not knowing he is there is entirely another.

CM is getting out of control and her sneakiness needs to get checked soon. Hope Shiv - the one she claims to have so much concern for - is the one to tell her to butt out and stay out.

Shiv has told her nicely to have faith in him and his choice, but she refused. Now she just has to be told firmly and she shud also understand that she risks alienating Shiv with this kind of nastiness.

In Jodha-Akbar, do u remember how Akbar's nurse claimed she was doing everything for his own good ? And do you remember what happened when Akbar found out about her schemes ? Hope the same happens to CM. Hope Shiv just blasts her out.


Edited by hooked - 15 September 2012 at 11:21pm

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Posted: 15 September 2012 at 11:29pm | IP Logged
Sorry just now got done watching whole week's BV repeat on Colors and I am a bit high.. I am openly saying CM doesnt have any right to interfere in Shiv's personal thing simply cuz she is plain insensitive and judgemental..

What does she know about Anandi ? How come she makes a false assumption that Anandi is lying about Jagya's return ? Who gave her the right to JUDGE Anandi as a person ? How many minutes has she spent with the girl ? I can't support CM simply for this reason that unless you are in that person's shoe throughout life, you dont have any right to JUDGE a person..

CM's krap about memories and breathe is just pathetic Thumbs Down If she remembers her husband at her every breathe, she better go and cry in the corner of her room Sleepy Why going around the village and lecturing people about her son's happiness Sleepy

All I can see is she thinks about her son Shiv and only Shiv at her every breathe Sleepy Cant stand another lecture from her about love for 'first husband' Angry 

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Posted: 16 September 2012 at 12:01am | IP Logged
Cm first of all is forgetting that she is talking to an adult...n meddling with an adult choice...

Whatever it is, AnSh marriage happens n cm's useless feelings need not b given any importance...
Shez a frog in a well n had never faced the society ...

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Posted: 16 September 2012 at 12:31am | IP Logged
What I see is that CVs have made with the entry of the Shekars is Balika Vadhu 2.0. In the sense this is Anandi new life and new beginnings with marriage again. Cvs have made Choti Maa like Dadisa coz she clearly loves Shiv more than her own son. But CM character won't be as extravagant as Dadisa but she will be the 'pebble in Anandi's shoes', which she can't ignore nor throw. In any story, there has to be the 'bad guy', so they have placed CM as a grey character, not over the top yet she will be in Anandi's face.
 Even how Anandi met her new father in law was parallel to how she met Bhairon. Just like how Sumitra is a nice saas, so is Irawati. But Sugna liked Anandi, here Shiv sister doesn't approve but we have Mahi who like Anandi. Just how the Singhs were a traditional family, Shekars are modern, it will be interesting to see how Anandi fits into this mould.
To me I think this is just take two of Anandi's life, Shiv will be everything Jagat isn't. This will be the catalyst to Anandi's realisation of life, love, family and herself as a woman, wife and possibly even something more.

Picture abhi baki yeh hai dost :)

Just to add, I don't agree with what CM said but what she said will only help Anandi realise what a worthless piece of work Jughead is and she will more determined to be with Shiv. When Dadisa used to emotionally blackmail Anandi when it came to Jagya, Anandi always gives in but this time I don't think Anandi will give in to CM so easily, she isn't the same anymore, she is wiser and will fight anything or anyone that comes her way.Smile CM can take a hike Tongue


Edited by fuzzyface - 16 September 2012 at 12:40am

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Posted: 16 September 2012 at 12:52am | IP Logged
@ Fuzzyface.,
You are just BANG ON on my view of the story going forward...
 
Characters like CM and Shiv's Sis are required for identity of A to be brought forth in the family...
 
It's just a new begginning for A and how she will win over the grey elements in her new family...and may be how she can achieve more in her life with support from a life partner like Shiv...

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Posted: 16 September 2012 at 2:11am | IP Logged
Originally posted by AnjanaYYZ

@Khusi - I don't think its Bitter - it judgmental - She cannot get beyond her own experience to grasp Anandi or Anandi's situation.  Its how dare this damaged girl phasofy my naive son...he is senseless in love and I must stop this nonsense with my immense sense.  

I don't think she is jealous cuz she had choice and did the "honorable" thing...staying true to her husband's memory...not burdening another with them.



While i agree with the basic point anjana, i think that these things are not so sorted sometimes subconciously in heads of people portrayed like her - on one hand she held on to staying true to her husbands memories etc , but obviously since she has not grown in openmindedness and basic human genorisity and kindness - so people who remain narrow minded and to some extent even orthododx in thinking often have repressed emotions too .

So on one hand all the reasons you outline hold, the fact that her remaining true to her husband's memories has not also made her a more open hearted human being (who's love and sorrow have not moved her to a more deeper and humane understanding of relationships) also suggests that while she did what she thought was the 'right thing' , over the years there might have been other desires and needs in face of loneliness, which might have been constantly repressed and led to perversly a degree of self righteousness where she cant stomach the idea of a village girl and a divorcee moving on in life like this with her own ladla ...it could be a mix of self righteousness, repression , envy , obsessive love for shiv ( which becomes even more pronounced in single mothers sometimes)...

Unlike anandi - she's not shown with that core of basic unadultered goodness - which would have made annadi welcome these developments if roles were reversed . Afterall - its what we make of ourselves and our lives through our experiences - of love, loss, life ...that makes all that difference . CM 's behaviour betrays the complex emotions of an ordinary woman - with leanings  on the conservative side...


Edited by sarandha - 16 September 2012 at 2:11am

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Posted: 16 September 2012 at 4:49am | IP Logged
Anjana...i lovely analysis Clap

CM's character has confused me...her concern for Shiv...confirming it from Anandi that she will never hurt Shiv is fine for me..and i can totally understand it..but what about her forcing Anandi to think again about her past life & those moments?..'u will not be able to move on' type statements? Confused i really did not understand it, did not liked it too!

she is comparing anandi's life with her life which is very wrong and not only that, but also she is asking anandi to re-think about her marriage with shiv and to go back & live at her past, like CM herself is living in her past till now! Stern Smile very regressive mentality i think...the world will change but i will remain at my past...people who refuse to change their thinking with time i don consider them as living people LOL..that is why i like DS so much now, bcoz she has learned from her past mistakes and she has changed Approve

not sure if this regressive mentality of CM is only because shiv is her family..if so then that is also wrong! we often support re-marriage of divorcee\widow when happen in other's life..but when it comes to our life or in our family member's life, the same we became conservative! may be CM is that kind of a person..who is actually not progressive from inside...but show off her as the one! Ermm

but as of now i don want to come to any conclusion..for me till now CM is a positive character, who is a blind mother..though she has irritated me a lot in Friday's episode! LOL

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Posted: 16 September 2012 at 5:09am | IP Logged
I liked everything you wrote mona except CM being positive...I just think she is STUPID... 

When shiv is going to find out... she will realize what blunder she has done...for the FIRST TIME i did not even want to watch the episode of BV again... GRR hated her and her fake smile and fake concern


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