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Posted: 09 September 2012 at 11:05pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by --Archana--

Why is IPK forum forming new and new rules everyday to oppress freedom of speech??
Isnt IF an open discussion forum??Then why every thread with any mention of CryAnj are being closed??What is the point in coming here if we are not allowed to express our views??

Bunch of hypocrites and CryAnj lovers and positivity saintsAngryAngryAngry



At the point IPK has reached now, it's not possible for an ardent IPK fan to love Anjali character...
And so criticizing the character is normal!
But we can't even say anything about the character! Can u believe it??
Okay we won't say anything about DB in our topics... but the character?? that's a part of IPK!Shocked
How can we not talk about her??? Shocked

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Posted: 09 September 2012 at 11:16pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by ~Saraa~

I know you guys are angry about this, but honestly speaking a public forum also has it's bounds. You can't go around calling Anjali "sick," "Pooja ki thaali wali." or even the CVs anything like that. The current track has everyone upset, but the story has to keep on moving forward. The CVs can't just show ArHi moments and ArHi's wedding. There has to be other things in the show to keep it moving and interesting.

Every forum has a different DT therefore the set of rules vary  but their underlying meaning is the same - no bashing will be tolerated. To express your opinion by constructively criticizing the show is acceptable but to say uncalled things to the cast or the CVs, will never be accepted on any forum.

You are saying that it's not their home but many of us treat India-Forums like our home. We've been on this forum for more than 5 years or something, so keeping that in mind, we don't like it either when we have to close threads that could have been structured well and could have been a great discussion thread. But when members start either bashing each other or the cast/CVs and throw insults at them, that's when the thread is closed and a note is put up there. And there is a huge crowd on this forum who aren't over the age of 15, so do you really want them to be going around reading posts that will only instigate the wrong things in their young minds? No, right? Smile

And I hope you had PMed the IPKKND forum DT regarding this, because they are prompt with their replies and will look into your thread if it was closed without a valid reason.

PS: I'm not trying to be offensive, so please don't mind. Embarrassed


Well, you're right to some extent!
But we also make fun of other characters... and how's that offensive? Ouch
We also make fun of dadi and shyam!! Confused
If we call Anjali "pooja ki thali wali"... is that offensive? Confused
Fun is Fun!!
Criticizing Anjali doesn't mean we're bashing Daljeet! Shocked
And ... I don't know... I want to express my frustrations in posts... but I'm afraid to say anything because the post's going to be closed! Cry
I don't feel free to share my opinions anymore!
Sigh.


Edited by Flora3333 - 09 September 2012 at 11:15pm

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Posted: 09 September 2012 at 11:20pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by ~Saraa~

I know you guys are angry about this, but honestly speaking a public forum also has it's bounds. You can't go around calling Anjali "sick," "Pooja ki thaali wali." or even the CVs anything like that. The current track has everyone upset, but the story has to keep on moving forward. The CVs can't just show ArHi moments and ArHi's wedding. There has to be other things in the show to keep it moving and interesting.

Every forum has a different DT therefore the set of rules vary  but their underlying meaning is the same - no bashing will be tolerated. To express your opinion by constructively criticizing the show is acceptable but to say uncalled things to the cast or the CVs, will never be accepted on any forum.

You are saying that it's not their home but many of us treat India-Forums like our home. We've been on this forum for more than 5 years or something, so keeping that in mind, we don't like it either when we have to close threads that could have been structured well and could have been a great discussion thread. But when members start either bashing each other or the cast/CVs and throw insults at them, that's when the thread is closed and a note is put up there. And there is a huge crowd on this forum who aren't over the age of 15, so do you really want them to be going around reading posts that will only instigate the wrong things in their young minds? No, right? Smile

And I hope you had PMed the IPKKND forum DT regarding this, because they are prompt with their replies and will look into your thread if it was closed without a valid reason.

PS: I'm not trying to be offensive, so please don't mind. Embarrassed

Alright!  The very fact that you are willing to live with "censorship" is what TM is challenging.

The deletions of comments was systematic and then the NEW RULES announced were even worse.

You need to understand the fundamental right to "express ourselves" -- as soon as you start imposing restrictions, it becomes subjective -- so we are supposed to be governed by those 6 20-some yearolds with no real world experience on what is right to say and what is not???

What the hell do they know?

If India Forums is willing to LEGALLY defend those individual rules, we would like to see that.

As for the comment "we think IF is hour house" -- the inference of the Author's comment was NOT about the "emotional bond" but the LEGAL boundary.

In your house, you can set your rules to your family members and as long as they dont complain, legally it is OK.  But as soon as you are in a PUBLIC set up there are some "freedom of expression" laws on the Internet.  If India Forums wants to be considered one of the "violators" of such laws, by all means, we can put them up and advertise their methods.

So, again the TM is talking about fundamental rights that every Netizen (net citizen) has that are being violated by the IPK forum members.

If you want to accept Dictatorship well all power to you -- it depends on where you live and your culture.  We dont like to be told "what we can say and what we cannot" -- does not WORK in the FREE WORLD.

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Posted: 09 September 2012 at 11:24pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Flora3333

Originally posted by ~Saraa~

I know you guys are angry about this, but honestly speaking a public forum also has it's bounds. You can't go around calling Anjali "sick," "Pooja ki thaali wali." or even the CVs anything like that. The current track has everyone upset, but the story has to keep on moving forward. The CVs can't just show ArHi moments and ArHi's wedding. There has to be other things in the show to keep it moving and interesting.

Every forum has a different DT therefore the set of rules vary  but their underlying meaning is the same - no bashing will be tolerated. To express your opinion by constructively criticizing the show is acceptable but to say uncalled things to the cast or the CVs, will never be accepted on any forum.

You are saying that it's not their home but many of us treat India-Forums like our home. We've been on this forum for more than 5 years or something, so keeping that in mind, we don't like it either when we have to close threads that could have been structured well and could have been a great discussion thread. But when members start either bashing each other or the cast/CVs and throw insults at them, that's when the thread is closed and a note is put up there. And there is a huge crowd on this forum who aren't over the age of 15, so do you really want them to be going around reading posts that will only instigate the wrong things in their young minds? No, right? Smile

And I hope you had PMed the IPKKND forum DT regarding this, because they are prompt with their replies and will look into your thread if it was closed without a valid reason.

PS: I'm not trying to be offensive, so please don't mind. Embarrassed


Well, you're right to some extent!
But we also make fun of other characters... and how's that offensive? Ouch
We also make fun of dadi and shyam!! Confused
If we call Anjali "pooja ki thali wali"... is that offensive? Confused
Fun is Fun!!
Criticizing Anjali doesn't mean we're bashing Daljeet! Shocked
And ... I don't know... I want to express my frustrations in posts... but I'm afraid to say anything because the post's going to be closed! Cry
I don't feel free to share my opinions anymore!
Sigh.

Sorry to butt in Flora -- But there is NOTHING right about what this person is saying.

People who want to suppress what others want to say always come up with their own reasons to justify their crap. 

This post is a justification of VIOLATION of the law of the land in the US and EU.  It may not be in India and Pakistan or some places in SE asia where people are used to being told "what they can say and what they cannot".

This if stretched is a very very serious issue -- it is about a silly daily Indian SOAP so no one wants to really drag it to court but if that is done, the forum will be shut down for at least the North American and EU people because they will be violating so many laws.

Just some reality here -- this is fun and games till someone takes offence to being told "what to say" -- stupid crap to start with.

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Posted: 09 September 2012 at 11:25pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Flora3333



Well, you're right to some extent!
But we also make fun of other characters... and how's that offensive? Ouch
We also make fun of dadi and shyam!! Confused
If we call Anjali "pooja ki thali wali"... is that offensive? Confused
Fun is Fun!!
Criticizing Anjali doesn't mean we're bashing Daljeet! Shocked
And ... I don't know... I want to express my frustrations in posts... but I'm afraid to say anything because the post's going to be closed! Cry
I don't feel free to share my opinions anymore!
Sigh.


Thankyou for understanding.
Dadi and Shyaam are negative characters of some sort and you will notice that as soon as there is a thread that is bashing the two and not constructive criticism, the thread is closed down. Calling Shyaam Snake-wa is accepted because he is a negative character but only to a point that in normal threads, it's not used in the context of Abhaas being mentioned as the snake-wa. Dadi is a recent addition so I don't know much about her and the posts regarding her.

And also, the posts regarding Anjali weren't just pointing towards her it was Dajleet who was bashed constantly. "Daljeet had signed up this negotiation that if she wasn't given focus then she would quit IPKKND." I mean, statements like these - how did the TM know? Is Daljeet best friends with them and she called them up late at night and told them how she felt? No, right - these are all baseless and pointless posts that have to be closed down to show the other members that no such posts will be accepted.

You shouldn't feel like you can't express your opinion. There's a IPKKND Frustration/Complaints Thread #2

It's the 2nd thread, which means member use this ALL the time. If you have any complaints or things to say that you do know will be argumentative by other members and will turn into something that won't be pleasant for anyone then you should post it in the link I have given above. It will get it off your back and you won't exactly be under the risk of WL increasing. EmbarrassedEmbarrassed

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Posted: 09 September 2012 at 11:29pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by ~Saraa~

I know you guys are angry about this, but honestly speaking a public forum also has it's bounds. You can't go around calling Anjali "sick," "Pooja ki thaali wali." or even the CVs anything like that. The current track has everyone upset, but the story has to keep on moving forward. The CVs can't just show ArHi moments and ArHi's wedding. There has to be other things in the show to keep it moving and interesting.

Every forum has a different DT therefore the set of rules vary  but their underlying meaning is the same - no bashing will be tolerated. To express your opinion by constructively criticizing the show is acceptable but to say uncalled things to the cast or the CVs, will never be accepted on any forum.

You are saying that it's not their home but many of us treat India-Forums like our home. We've been on this forum for more than 5 years or something, so keeping that in mind, we don't like it either when we have to close threads that could have been structured well and could have been a great discussion thread. But when members start either bashing each other or the cast/CVs and throw insults at them, that's when the thread is closed and a note is put up there. And there is a huge crowd on this forum who aren't over the age of 15, so do you really want them to be going around reading posts that will only instigate the wrong things in their young minds? No, right? Smile

And I hope you had PMed the IPKKND forum DT regarding this, because they are prompt with their replies and will look into your thread if it was closed without a valid reason.

PS: I'm not trying to be offensive, so please don't mind. Embarrassed



This is not about showing Arhi all the time. This is about Freedom of Speech.  So if someone wants to see Arhi all the time they should be able to make a post about that. If someone does not want to see Poojali all the time they should be able to make a post about that as well! That is what a public forum is for!

No,  every DT cannot have their set of rules.

If the viewers do not like the current track, they have the right to express their opinion!! What is the excuse for the rule  "no character bashing not allowed". What is allowed then? People are not even supposed to criticize fictional characters?

When they are using our accounts to generate revenue, they do not have the right to suppress our freedom of expression! This is not a fan club!



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Posted: 09 September 2012 at 11:34pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Maverick29

Originally posted by Flora3333

Originally posted by ~Saraa~

I know you guys are angry about this, but honestly speaking a public forum also has it's bounds. You can't go around calling Anjali "sick," "Pooja ki thaali wali." or even the CVs anything like that. The current track has everyone upset, but the story has to keep on moving forward. The CVs can't just show ArHi moments and ArHi's wedding. There has to be other things in the show to keep it moving and interesting.

Every forum has a different DT therefore the set of rules vary  but their underlying meaning is the same - no bashing will be tolerated. To express your opinion by constructively criticizing the show is acceptable but to say uncalled things to the cast or the CVs, will never be accepted on any forum.

You are saying that it's not their home but many of us treat India-Forums like our home. We've been on this forum for more than 5 years or something, so keeping that in mind, we don't like it either when we have to close threads that could have been structured well and could have been a great discussion thread. But when members start either bashing each other or the cast/CVs and throw insults at them, that's when the thread is closed and a note is put up there. And there is a huge crowd on this forum who aren't over the age of 15, so do you really want them to be going around reading posts that will only instigate the wrong things in their young minds? No, right? Smile

And I hope you had PMed the IPKKND forum DT regarding this, because they are prompt with their replies and will look into your thread if it was closed without a valid reason.

PS: I'm not trying to be offensive, so please don't mind. Embarrassed


Well, you're right to some extent!
But we also make fun of other characters... and how's that offensive? Ouch
We also make fun of dadi and shyam!! Confused
If we call Anjali "pooja ki thali wali"... is that offensive? Confused
Fun is Fun!!
Criticizing Anjali doesn't mean we're bashing Daljeet! Shocked
And ... I don't know... I want to express my frustrations in posts... but I'm afraid to say anything because the post's going to be closed! Cry
I don't feel free to share my opinions anymore!
Sigh.

Sorry to butt in Flora -- But there is NOTHING right about what this person is saying.

People who want to suppress what others want to say always come up with their own reasons to justify their crap. 

This post is a justification of VIOLATION of the law of the land in the US and EU.  It may not be in India and Pakistan or some places in SE asia where people are used to being told "what they can say and what they cannot".

This if stretched is a very very serious issue -- it is about a silly daily Indian SOAP so no one wants to really drag it to court but if that is done, the forum will be shut down for at least the North American and EU people because they will be violating so many laws.

Just some reality here -- this is fun and games till someone takes offence to being told "what to say" -- stupid crap to start with.


I agree with u!
I live in US and never face this kind of restriction before...
and websites are not bound to any country territory!
So we should feel free to express our thoughts about the show and characters!
And that's what the forum is for, right?
I feel suffocated before typing each and every word here.
That's sad.
IF was fun for me 2 days ago.
But it doesn't seem to be anymore!
Anything we'd say about Anjali, the topic will be closed. Even posts on DB's profile were deleted!
Some posts were not even attacking her but criticizing Anjali!
I must say... I feel an awkward silence in the forum. I don't know if anyone else has noticed or not.
Maximum posts are now OS/FF or silly predictions about the future track.
No more opinions / criticisms about the track/ characters!


Edited by Flora3333 - 09 September 2012 at 11:50pm

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Posted: 09 September 2012 at 11:35pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by ~Saraa~

[QUOTE=Flora3333]

Well, you're right to some extent!
But we also make fun of other characters... and how's that offensive? Ouch
We also make fun of dadi and shyam!! Confused
If we call Anjali "pooja ki thali wali"... is that offensive? Confused
Fun is Fun!!
Criticizing Anjali doesn't mean we're bashing Daljeet! Shocked
And ... I don't know... I want to express my frustrations in posts... but I'm afraid to say anything because the post's going to be closed! Cry
I don't feel free to share my opinions anymore!
Sigh.


Thankyou for understanding.
Dadi and Shyaam are negative characters of some sort and you will notice that as soon as there is a thread that is bashing the two and not constructive criticism, the thread is closed down. Calling Shyaam Snake-wa is accepted because he is a negative character but only to a point that in normal threads, it's not used in the context of Abhaas being mentioned as the snake-wa. Dadi is a recent addition so I don't know much about her and the posts regarding her.

And also, the posts regarding Anjali weren't just pointing towards her it was Dajleet who was bashed constantly. "Daljeet had signed up this negotiation that if she wasn't given focus then she would quit IPKKND." I mean, statements like these - how did the TM know? Is Daljeet best friends with them and she called them up late at night and told them how she felt? No, right - these are all baseless and pointless posts that have to be closed down to show the other members that no such posts will be accepted.

You shouldn't feel like you can't express your opinion. There's a IPKKND Frustration/Complaints Thread #2

It's the 2nd thread, which means member use this ALL the time. If you have any complaints or things to say that you do know will be argumentative by other members and will turn into something that won't be pleasant for anyone then you should post it in the link I have given above. It will get it off your back and you won't exactly be under the risk of WL increasing. EmbarrassedEmbarrassed[
/QUOTE]

So you answered my questions already by talking about how calling Shyam Snakewa was acceptable because you thought he was "negative" character!

So Daljeet today with all her selfishness and betrayal is NOT negative per your views and everyone around the world should live by your standards!

Before you say "yes it is our forum" -- well it is NOT because it is public and your site makes money because of the NUMBER OF SUBSCRIBERS you claim -- which is US -- so, you cannot suppress our right to disagree and start talking as if you guys are on some supreme mission to protect people!

This is just an excuse to start curbing what people can say.   Nothing you say can justify this.  Neither legally nor morally!

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