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Posted: 07 September 2012 at 11:08am | IP Logged
Originally posted by mommy2000

Originally posted by chillygirl

I agree with u but arnav is no less.
That dadi of his was questioning khushi's character again and again and not even once did he sickos lose his contract marriage. Why?

If u have seen today's episode, khushi is repeatedly insulted by dadi but he niether stands up for khushi nor even consoles her. Why?

He remembers what Shyam did to anjali but why did he forget what he did to khushi?

So not even arnav is perfect and cvs have ruined him as well


In the entire ensemble, only shyam is perfect.LOL


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Posted: 07 September 2012 at 11:09am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Horizon

Originally posted by vimmiya

Originally posted by --Anna--

Originally posted by Suchi.R

Anna... after so many days readying your post.. Great post as always.. I understand your frustration, I am so done with this serial and stopped watching it from past many days.. 

Suchi and Vimmiya- Hey :) Good to see you guys. 

Belive me I myself am not watching the show. I am reading updates on twitter only because I want to keep that hope alive that the show will bounce back.

I always knew Anjali would be the one to get Shyam back - but there is a limit to being delusional. Khushi's character is being played with constantly and really this is not the time for her to act Mahaan and bring back Shyam. Dadi - okay I get it - even she is manipulated - but why cannot she give her grandson a chance and hear him out? If they have to get Shyam back - why stretch it!? Just let Dadi and Anjali get him - why involve khushi? And then dumb down ASR to bring back Shyam in because his di decides to go on bhook hartal or something? Will I be able to take THE ASR or THE KKGSR to go and get back the man who practically tried killing both of them? Will I see Arnav bow down to his di's wish when he himself threw the man out?

If they show - Arnav put in conditions to shyam's entry in the house - like maybe him staying in servant quarters or the outhouse - or maybe cut down all money flow to Anjali and Shyam and give Shyam the control of Anjali since the family believs in him - then would it be worth it and in character. Otherwise - Oh yeah! Let's cut ASR into a weak person and dumb him down constantly.
 
 
I really do not know how the 'soap serials' operate as this is the first serial I am viewing after a hiatus of 11 plus years.   I really had never been the fan of khushi character therefore, my interpretation gives no sense.  
 
Here for arnav to take unilateral decisions is feasible only when there is cooperation at home.   Anjali always had a way of doing things, so what works ultimately is her decisions not any one else.  
 
For Anjali to learn and accept the decision of her brother will take place only when her illusion castle is burnt and further when Arnav distances himself from Anjali.   But for all this to happen we as viewers should have patience and CV should give a proper treatment.
 
Vimmiya, I agree with you that Anjali has her own way, and she is actually as stubborn as ASR is, just that her demeanor is deceptive. Yes Shyam has to come back for Anjali to get out of that delusion. But is there a need to make ASR and now Khushi dumber and dumbest in that process? No, right! They didn't need to show ASR ignoring those wires, saying that he is beefing up security and Shyam having no issues to roam around RM, and now heights of all Khushi believing that Shyam has changed and God forbid convincing ASR next week to bring Shyam back! Such poor execution and least attention to the characters!
Dear Horizon
 
Though I hardly make my input in this forum I regularly write in 'myeduniya'.  This was what I wrote last week , I am repeating it here :
 

French Holiday of Arnav Singh Raizada :

I am not going to share the moral responsibility of this tragedy with any one. The only person who is responsibility for this iconic fetus carnage is 'Arnav Singh Raizada'. Call it his lackadaisical attitude or ludicrous there was an utter security breach at his residence.

I think his business acumen went on a 'French holiday', what is he doing? He is considered to be an inveterate 'control freak', meticulous in his planning, thorough in his preparation and a paragon of perfection. The Harvard graduate never exhibition even an iota of those traits.

He should have assessed the capabilities and potential danger from Shyam. Did he ever have a discussion on Shyam with Khushi/Nk as they can give him the first information. No, he never did. When Nk was showing him, the wire how did his error that the wire needs to be connected with equipment? He threw the wire without any form of calculation.

Secondly, when he sensed Shyam and black out happened, why he did not look for the man around.

Which? Where? Why, When? What? Whom? - There were no questions on 'W's from his side.

Mr. Arnav Singh Raizada, when someone cheats or sabotage you the first time it is purely the man's fault. Whereas when the man repeats it, again on you it is purely your fault. I am completely disappointed Sir.

The main problem here is he is not even sensing something is going wrong in his household even now.  Still, I am repeating, let us still give them the chance to resurrect.  Let us not press the panic button.  

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Posted: 07 September 2012 at 11:10am | IP Logged
Originally posted by mommy2000

Originally posted by chillygirl

I agree with u but arnav is no less.
That dadi of his was questioning khushi's character again and again and not even once did he sickos lose his contract marriage. Why?

If u have seen today's episode, khushi is repeatedly insulted by dadi but he niether stands up for khushi nor even consoles her. Why?

He remembers what Shyam did to anjali but why did he forget what he did to khushi?

So not even arnav is perfect and cvs have ruined him as well


In the entire ensemble, only shyam is perfect.LOL
 
no both koosi and shyam are perfect, so shyamu should kill anji and arnav and get married to koosi...
Arnav is the base of all problems, anything and everything he does in this world is no less than Kasab's crime, so he should be killed first (the ultimate redemption), followed by poojali.. then all problems will be solved.. Koosi can get her big fat dream wedding.. she will be the rani sahiba of her shyamu and they both can do only Rabba Veys, because other than a certain analyser, nobody else feels Shyamu has any diii


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Posted: 07 September 2012 at 11:11am | IP Logged
Originally posted by mommy2000

Originally posted by chillygirl

I agree with u but arnav is no less.
That dadi of his was questioning khushi's character again and again and not even once did he sickos lose his contract marriage. Why?

If u have seen today's episode, khushi is repeatedly insulted by dadi but he niether stands up for khushi nor even consoles her. Why?

He remembers what Shyam did to anjali but why did he forget what he did to khushi?

So not even arnav is perfect and cvs have ruined him as well


In the entire ensemble, only shyam is perfect.LOL

Yes atleast his negativity is consistent and doesn't swing like others
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Posted: 07 September 2012 at 11:15am | IP Logged
Originally posted by pisces25

Originally posted by vimmiya

Originally posted by pisces25

Originally posted by vimmiya

Dear Anna,
 
How are you?  After long time I am seeing your post.  Though my contribution in this forum is negligible, I do visit here at time for certain write up.  I look around for you and hardly see you. 
 
Anyway, Why are you so frustrated?  Well, the character whom we all 'fell in love' ASR character though got diluted - the peripherals had changed but the core remains the same.  
 
For me it is not about optimism or pessimism, it is about story revolving.   This place and situation has to be there for the story to progress.  
 
-  When Arnav had the misunderstanding he married her and thereby got kidnapped and understood Khushi is innocent. 
 
-  Here Anjali is still in the dark because there was not proof to implicate that Shyam is the culprit.   She needs the real truth.  To know the truth you have to come up with this track. 
 
The story can never be the same as the phases had changed; therefore, go with the flow.  Let us see how the CVs are giving it their touch to this module as there is a new writer on board. 
 
thank you for giving the space. 


I agree to an extent, but isn't there another way of executing this? Really why make the audience cringe at the characters like this where you cannot even sympathize with them at all.
The problem with the PH is execution - I really find a great level of problem there.   What they think and how give it a treatment is something I am unable to comprehend.   Today's episode was done in a bad taste.  
 
the CVs are making all the corners tight in focusing Khushi is selfless, as according to their layout they zero the character from being Selfless to promote her as dumb.   Well, one trait is consistent.  she never learns from the mistake and takes her decisions without any consultancy.  
 
please provide your comments, at least some fruitful discussion is taking place
 


The have lacked in the execution ever since the wedding last February. Honestly today's episode has just been the last nail in the coffin for me. It was just pathetic. I honestly want them to go re watch the previous episodes and they have a new creative. I want him to rewatch the show as well.

If at the end their aim was just TRP's oh my gosh there are so many different ways to gain that. What is their problem in showing a strong woman?

Really, cannot understand the story of 'trp' - the boxes of 5000 odd is deciding the fate of a serial.  you are absolutely right after the wedding they messed with it, especially 'Aaj Mausam Hain Suhana' and 'Swami' track - but they gripped it from 'ASR's Kidnapping track' - later with Dadi's entry they are having problem with the execution. 
 
Who is this new writer on the deck?   What did they do with the old writers?  Further the screenplay writers are not unilateral to our serial.  They are writing for other serial too.  That is a huge handicap.  So, we as audience who are discerning are having a problem in understanding the anomalies.  "is it not ignorance a bliss' in our case.    

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Posted: 07 September 2012 at 11:18am | IP Logged
Originally posted by chillygirl

Originally posted by mommy2000

Originally posted by chillygirl

I agree with u but arnav is no less.
That dadi of his was questioning khushi's character again and again and not even once did he sickos lose his contract marriage. Why?

If u have seen today's episode, khushi is repeatedly insulted by dadi but he niether stands up for khushi nor even consoles her. Why?

He remembers what Shyam did to anjali but why did he forget what he did to khushi?

So not even arnav is perfect and cvs have ruined him as well


In the entire ensemble, only shyam is perfect.LOL

Yes atleast his negativity is consistent and doesn't swing like others
 
What are you saying? Didnt you see the regret in his eyes when he said sorry (in his mind) to anji before killing her baby? Didnt you see the love in his eyes when he was staring, sorry looking at koosi? He is a changed man now... Koosi can never ever be wrong and today if her naive, innocent heart feels that Shyam is a changed man, then it must be right... Dont tag him as negative please.. It will hurt koosi Cry

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