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Posted: 05 September 2012 at 8:28pm | IP Logged
Hello Sush... I am Aakanksha.. I always read ur post, infact look forward to it always. Today, really liked ur positive outlook on the episode. I also feel that Khushi was in character when she was asking Arnav to let Shyam meet Di. Its her inherent good-nature and always looking for goodness in others that made her request Arnav. Hoping that maybe this big tragedy may have changed Shyam. What i liked was the fact, that she did not argue much and conceded with Arnav's POV. Today for once they had an mature discussion and debate on a topic. It speaks a lot abt how far along they have come in this relationship.

Anjali is delusional. Its understandable where she is coming from. Since the time Shyam ouster has happened, no one has sat down with her and put forth all the facts known abt Shyam. Only one talking to her is Shyam himself  and now Dadi, who is also mouthing Shyam fed lies. Though she knows that Arnav cannot be wrong, hence she believes its all a misunderstanding. To top it all, she lost her unborn child. She obviously is beyond logic right now. As of now, she has no clue of all the murder attempts made on her by her husband and that he is actually the one who killed her baby. All she is seeing is her husband wanting to be her side in this moment of their grief. 

Shyam is evil-personified period. Don't have anything to say abt him. I agree with you, watching the show live has this downfall. Have to endure him but I turn my face away whenever he is on screenLOL



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Posted: 05 September 2012 at 8:32pm | IP Logged
Isn't it great to finally Arnav makes some use of the Shaatir dimag he is so proud of. I completely forwarded shymli today. I don't always do that but after Dadi's words, I just could not take them anymore. Actually dadi is good enough to raise my BP. Some lady she is. Would like to see her face the day snake's truth comes out in front of her.

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Posted: 05 September 2012 at 8:46pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by aakanksha09

Hello Sush... I am Aakanksha.. I always read ur post, infact look forward to it always. Today, really liked ur positive outlook on the episode. I also feel that Khushi was in character when she was asking Arnav to let Shyam meet Di. Its her inherent good-nature and always looking for goodness in others that made her request Arnav. Hoping that maybe this big tragedy may have changed Shyam. What i liked was the fact, that she did not argue much and conceded with Arnav's POV. Today for once they had an mature discussion and debate on a topic. It speaks a lot abt how far along they have come in this relationship.

Anjali is delusional. Its understandable where she is coming from. Since the time Shyam ouster has happened, no one has sat down with her and put forth all the facts known abt Shyam. Only one talking to her is Shyam himself  and now Dadi, who is also mouthing Shyam fed lies. Though she knows that Arnav cannot be wrong, hence she believes its all a misunderstanding. To top it all, she lost her unborn child. She obviously is beyond logic right now. As of now, she has no clue of all the murder attempts made on her by her husband and that he is actually the one who killed her baby. All she is seeing is her husband wanting to be her side in this moment of their grief. 

Shyam is evil-personified period. Don't have anything to say abt him. I agree with you, watching the show live has this downfall. Have to endure him but I turn my face away whenever he is on screenLOL



 
Hello Aakanksha...Thank you for posting! Yes you are absolutely right about Anjali...first of all she does not know what Shyam has done to her and her baby...and she trusts too easily...
 
What can I say about Shyam...I once suggested that they should chuck him out of the scenes and have Amitabh Bachchan just narrate his ill deeds...Obviously that idea didnt gain much tractionLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL


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Posted: 05 September 2012 at 8:55pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by caltoon

Hi Sush (if I may call you that)...

I like your take on today's episode and agree with most of what you say. I thought Khushi asking for Arnav to consider allowing Shyam to meet with di (not bring him back to RM) was kind of keeping with her character (a bit too prone to see the good in others and more trusting of the essential goodness of others). Arnav too was in character when he objected and the way he objected. It was a mature conversation from both sides - they had a difference of opinion (and they will have a lot more in the future) and they handled it well.

Dadi seems to be trying to correct a mistake from the past and until we learn what happened in the past, it is a tad bit difficult to relate to her. I did like Arnav-Dadi confrontation - there were punches and counter punches thrown and nothing was resolved. However, Arnav now has a better idea of why Dadi is back and hopefully will not be caught unawares on this flank again. Also, it gave us a glimpse of how the rest of the family falls on the matter of Shyam's guilt/crimes.

I thought Shyam's manipulation of Anjali was particularly well depicted. One characterization of Shyam that has remained constant is that he really knows how to pinpoint someone's weak points (Buaji, Anjali etc) and then use that to manipulate and get what he wants. Shyam has the advantage over Arnav because all he needs to do is prick Anjali and cause her to bleed and that will automatically cause Arnav to feel the pain too. Arnav will not and cannot win the war against Shyam until he figures out what Shyam's weaknesses are and probably a start would be to dig deep and find out why Shyam came into their lives in the first place. At this point, Arnav is the man exposed with all his achille's heels laid bare for Shyam to go after. Arnav needs to level the playing field or he will lose. He needs to go on the offense, instead of playing defense - because he has a lot to lose and the opponent currently doesn't.
 
Hi Caltoon! Thank you for your post! You make an excellent observation about Shyamu knowing Arnavs weakness and having an upper hand...Shyamus weakness is "money"...but Arnav has not been able to use it effectively against him...Anjali is always the back channel...As you say...ARnie has to stop playing DEFENSE!!

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Posted: 05 September 2012 at 8:56pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by showstruck

Isn't it great to finally Arnav makes some use of the Shaatir dimag he is so proud of. I completely forwarded shymli today. I don't always do that but after Dadi's words, I just could not take them anymore. Actually dadi is good enough to raise my BP. Some lady she is. Would like to see her face the day snake's truth comes out in front of her.
 
Ah yes...Finally!!! Hope to see more of it!Big smile

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Posted: 05 September 2012 at 9:03pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by premparbat

 

 Khushi.  Didn't we ALL expect her to ask Arnie to bring back Shyam .  Is it not in her nature to think with her heart and believe in the goodness of people.  She saw a man crying albeit fake tears and believed it to be true and then she saw a wounded sister who needed help and then further saw a broken  Arnie who lost faith in himself.  What do you think her reaction would be  ? To make it all better by whatever means and hence her plea  ' Maybe he has changed. Let's not be unjust and get him to meet  Di.  She is not correct in her assessment  but for now she is not thinking long term , never has.

What I was so happy was about how the entire scene was played with Arnie  questioning her "So ?? "  "Are you kidding me Khsuhi  ?"  For once both had a conversation that involved a difference in opinion and  Arnav did not put his foot down to  say "I am right " and Khsuhi did not continue to argue. To me that was character growth , both handling it in a mature fashion.

Anjali  It is only today that Anji has displayed her total lack of comprehension of a situation and its consequences.  I don't t think she THINKS at all. Other people have done it for her  and has been directed by her brother and manipulated by her husband.  Her husband did a good job of making her feel guilty of losing the baby and planting the thought that had he been around none of this would happen.  As per the entire plan to get her to lose the baby to enter RM according to me is the only way he could have coz  he know that Arnav  tolerated him only coz of the baby.  And now since its gone Anji is fragile and  will need him more.  He did it very cleverly and not once did he bad mouth Arnav but simply played his wife to his tune.  

I would have cheered for Anjali had she once said to her husband that please take me from my brothers  house  and I want to be with you .  It would have done wonders  for her character redemption but that is not the purpose of the cvs who blatantly believe in distorting their characters for their purpose.   The last bit of Anji wanting her husband back  is  Arnie's biggest test. No prizes in guessing ' it is sure to happen. What next is what I'd like to see.

Sush I was okay with today and thought everyone was in character ...

 
 
Ratna...
In Red...Absolutely wonderfully written! What a mature conversation that was...! Completely in character...
 
In Blue...
Makes sense...Gosh...this man will sink to any where to achieve his purpose...YIKES!!
 
And yes...your point about dismantling the crib...and the way it was done...Totally unnecessary!


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Posted: 05 September 2012 at 9:22pm | IP Logged
Sush, I agree with you. I felt that Khushi was asking for only one meeting between Anjali and Shyam and was not asking for his permanent return. I would want this shyam chapter to be closed asap as my tolerance for this character has gone down to negatives, nothing against Abbhas. 

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Posted: 05 September 2012 at 9:47pm | IP Logged
Perfect title Sush! 

Why is everybody so dumb man? Thank god Nannav shushed stupid Khushi. How much dumber can she get? We all know the dumbness rate of Anjali and the rest so there's no point venting on her but Khushi? When will she ever use her brains and learn a lesson? Sleepy

I'm on Team Nannav now cuz he's the only man with a functionable brain in that house

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