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Posted: 05 September 2012 at 7:30pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by areeba_blossom

All i'll say is that the episode was BANGING!!!

No mood for analysis today but i enjoyed the episode!! It nailed perfectly!!


Ha ha...good to see you Areeba...!!! I think all scenes that didn't involve Shyamu were well done! Let's hope they don't lose sense tomorrow... Big smile

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Posted: 05 September 2012 at 7:35pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by IshqSufiyana

I wouldn't really rant until the screen space of Anjali is reduced. She's like everywhere these days opening shots, closing shots, Flashbacks. she been in almost all precaps as of late. I can't digest it anymore. 70% of the screen space these days belongs to her.

I fell Khushi did wrong today. this show is getting predictable as of late it explains everything since the writers has changed. Khushi is the last person I wanted to see asking Arnav to bring Shyam back, after everything that man has put her though!

It's a big No, no.



Understand your sentiments ...putting Anjalis screen space angle out of mind is very important ...to let it not kill the enjoyment...If everyone was logical...how would the story go on...RIght? ..Someone has to make a mistake...

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Posted: 05 September 2012 at 7:46pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by CDlove

I really like your outlook on Khushi's approach to Anjali-Shyam problem.
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But I feel she was hasty in her words becuase it shows she has been giving it a thought even before Anjali was suggesting it to Arnav. I think she really could not have considered such an options asgiving Shyam another chanceafter everything he had put her through.


Had this come after Anjali's request I could have been able to sympathise with her more. It would have been logical for her to give it a thought after Anjali asked for Shyam.


<div>What I cant digest is that she wasthinking about it even before Anjali's request. That's the main reason I was disappointed.





Fair point and a fine one! Although I have to say...making I before Anjalis appeal shows that was an independent thought...a consideration for the alternative...not because Anjali asked for it...but because she is the eternal optimist...


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Posted: 05 September 2012 at 7:52pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by premparbat

Originally posted by lwfw

I will take you sympathies susBig smile . Agree how i wished it was recorded and not live.   Agree that they r building up. And loved hat asr could connect the dots.  
 
Sharu,   Good to see you on thsi thread. Its been ages since i saw anything from you . Still watching the show and joining IF !! great.
. Hey how are you. Not much at IF both due to personal and show issues. But yes watching epis. Embarrassed   

 I understnd you views. It was very dramatical. But then i hate shyamOuch


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Posted: 05 September 2012 at 8:01pm | IP Logged
Sush I have to say  I love it when you put a positive spin to things.

I know you have been put off by the show like most of us and have been away frin If as you did not have any positive things to say...but at times I is about seeing the glass half full...

Don't mean to be condescending or preachy...as I said I love it when you are cheerful...as you have been  my IF guru since the start...

The creatives have to get their leads right and that is smart... Arnie has to be asr and Khushi has to be that small town righteous girl...whenever they mess that up they will not do well.

Shyam and Anji are sideshows always can be fast forwarded...I watch it for Arhi and today they wre good.

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Posted: 05 September 2012 at 8:03pm | IP Logged
Hi Sush (if I may call you that)...

I like your take on today's episode and agree with most of what you say. I thought Khushi asking for Arnav to consider allowing Shyam to meet with di (not bring him back to RM) was kind of keeping with her character (a bit too prone to see the good in others and more trusting of the essential goodness of others). Arnav too was in character when he objected and the way he objected. It was a mature conversation from both sides - they had a difference of opinion (and they will have a lot more in the future) and they handled it well.

Dadi seems to be trying to correct a mistake from the past and until we learn what happened in the past, it is a tad bit difficult to relate to her. I did like Arnav-Dadi confrontation - there were punches and counter punches thrown and nothing was resolved. However, Arnav now has a better idea of why Dadi is back and hopefully will not be caught unawares on this flank again. Also, it gave us a glimpse of how the rest of the family falls on the matter of Shyam's guilt/crimes.

I thought Shyam's manipulation of Anjali was particularly well depicted. One characterization of Shyam that has remained constant is that he really knows how to pinpoint someone's weak points (Buaji, Anjali etc) and then use that to manipulate and get what he wants. Shyam has the advantage over Arnav because all he needs to do is prick Anjali and cause her to bleed and that will automatically cause Arnav to feel the pain too. Arnav will not and cannot win the war against Shyam until he figures out what Shyam's weaknesses are and probably a start would be to dig deep and find out why Shyam came into their lives in the first place. At this point, Arnav is the man exposed with all his achille's heels laid bare for Shyam to go after. Arnav needs to level the playing field or he will lose. He needs to go on the offense, instead of playing defense - because he has a lot to lose and the opponent currently doesn't.

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Posted: 05 September 2012 at 8:08pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by geetmaanluv

great title 

well let me try to be the DEvils advocate... for the women of IPK

ANjali  

i dont want to mince words im not an anjali fan .. that said .. i do watch her scenes. i think people dont see how blindly she loves shyam. so i get y she wants her husband. from her pov he loves her and there is a big MU between him and her brother. arnav n khushi have each other... i get anjali wanting her husband to share her pain.. she does not know how evil he is. i think the cv's mess up when they show her soo insensitive to her family. she know how much they love her. for her to so easily talk abt emotionally blackmailing them .. how she will stop eating till shyam comes... tells shyam dont worry i will handle it... rubs me and i think the audience the wrong way. if they had shown her wanting to leave with shyam bec she loves him .. i would get that. but she keeps trying to get everyone to bend to her desires like a spoiled brat... which i guess due to arnavs coddling and shyams pretending she is. 

khushi

if anjali is spoiled then khushi is too selfless. but i didnt not mind her today. she was a good wife. she looked out for him.. supported him . and i think she should be able to voice her opinion to arnav. if not him then who else. she did say let shyam come meet anjali once she did not say let him move in. khushi was suggesting only to bring comfort to anjali. yes shyam is evil ... if khushi had not agreed with aranv in the end. i would have not agreed with her as well. she has been trying to calm the waters in the house. get things back to normal... and so she suggested a compromise between dadi pov and arnav pov.  nothing wrong with that.. tensions are high and she saw how upset arnav was.

dadi

well all i can think of is old fashioned and out dated thinking. where damad is treated like god. she is thinking i guess traditionally abt anjali life. her first marriage broke, she has a bum leg, she lost her child, this marriage is failing not to mention anjali is very weak emotionally. all dadi sees is when her and shyam want to make it work out y not give it a shot i guess ??? on the flip side she is as stubborn and arrogant as aranv.. but unlike him she does not see when she as made a mistake. she assumes she is right and keeps going... no remorse. 

arnav was no doubt great today.. but they need to show him a little more logically. before the restraining order.. idk how abt divorce papers for anjali and shyam. how long does he think he can keep legally married people apart. this wont happen but he needs to stop coddling anjali and give her some tough love. atleast try to show her shaym true side. try saying that u need to leave the RM if u want to be with shyam back.. see how fast shyam will back out. anjali needs to see the bitter truth. the gurl is delusional and arnav keeps letting her live in a dream world. 



Excellent post! Cant comment on Anjalis scenes today with Shyamu as I didn't watch them... .. Completely agree about Khushi...she Is trying to calm the waters ...asking Arnav to not take a hard line approach...thinking of Anjals comfort...suggesting a modest compromise...nothing long term...    Yes Anjali is delusional...but I am sure there is a reason for it...time will tell...   ARnie is too heavy handed in his approach...his conclusion is right but his approach is wrong...although I don agree that tough love will be the way to go...Anjali needs help figuring this out...not pressure or coddling...

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Posted: 05 September 2012 at 8:12pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by premparbat

Sush I have to say I love it when you put a positive spin to things.

I know you have been put off by the show like most of us and have been away frin If as you did not have any positive things to say...but at times I is about seeing the glass half full...

Don't mean to be condescending or preachy...as I said I love it when you are cheerful...as you have been my IF guru since the start...

The creatives have to get their leads right and that is smart... Arnie has to be asr and Khushi has to be that small town righteous girl...whenever they mess that up they will not do well.

Shyam and Anji are sideshows always can be fast forwarded...I watch it for Arhi and today they wre good.






That's my girl!!! Big smile Big smile Big smile
Sorry for being so pissed off with the date fiasco... and fast forwarding Shyamus scenes is really helping keeping my cheerfulness ...if I don't see his manipulations and people acting like puppets under them...I have a more positive view of them! He is REALLY ANNOYING!!


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