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Director's Cut, September 04th, 2012 (Page 12)

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Posted: 05 September 2012 at 2:16am | IP Logged
Originally posted by meghavn

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Character is destiny.
- Herac***us, Greek philosopher (c. 540-c. 475 B.C.)

Character is the relatively fixed traits of an individual. It is that which leads to that person's destiny, and not the happenings in life. (This is what Herac***us meant)

Existentialism is the belief that each person defines their future by their decided actions: that the future has not yet been written. (I write my own Destiny - Arnav Singh Raizada)

Fatalism is the belief that the outcome of all events is preordained, and therefore, unalterable. (Nothing happens without Devi Mayya's wish - Khushi Kumari Gupta Singh Raizada)

I wanted to write about yesterday's and today's episode together, because yesterday, it was incomplete - and today the scene completed - and how!

Arnav Singh Raizada sat in the hospital prayer room and had a moment of epiphany. A revelation of his own frailty as a human being. A revelation of his inability to control the destiny of those he loved. A revelation that no matter what he does or how he does it, Fate walks in and changes what he wants to do. For an existentialist - which is what Arnav is - this is a bitter pill to swallow.

But is that the truth?

He wants to believe that he could have stopped what happened 'that night'. But he had no choice as his mother took her destiny in her hands, and killed herself. He had no choice as his father killed himself too. He had no choice, when his uncle threw them out of the house. A teenage boy - he could have done nothing. His mother's character did not give him the choice, just like his father and his uncle. So Arnav's character changed. He needed to control what happened to him and those he loved. Until Fate dropped Khushi into his arms. It was the case of an immovable object meeting an irresistible force. The more he tried to control her - because he had to, it was his character to do so, the more out of control his attraction grew. Until finally, he acknowledged it to himself. Here is where Character plays its role in his destiny. Once he acknowledged it, there was no going back on it. Arnav's character was such that what when he committed to a course of action, he gave his 100% to it. He committed to love and gave it his 100%. He still needed to control his environment, but he now understood Khushi's character, so that there was no conflict between his character and his destiny. She became his destiny. His character - his need for her - drove his decision for the remarriage. He finally trusted her enough to reveal his vulnerabilities, his inner fears, and secrets to her. Because he knew she would never abuse this knowledge. His character is shaped by her strength, her support and her wisdom. He chooses to follow her advice to go talk to his sister. 

 As he sees Shyam he is thrown off-guard, and he is unable to control his anger. Not matter what Shyam says, he is unmoved. He knows what Shyam is, and when he utters the trigger word 'father', he loses control and slaps him. His eyes are bleak and cold as his Grandmother takes Shyam's side. Shyam knows Arnav's character flaw - his uncontrollable anger, and goads him by acting like the grieving father. He punches him again and again, and then throws out a challenge. 'You'll never enter My house as long as I live.' Arnav thrives on challenge. This is his character. And he might have just written his immediate future with that challenge. 

But what about his Di? He wanted to give her the best - keep her happy and he committed to it as well. What happened there? Why was he unable to do what he knew she needed to keep her safe and happy? Because, Arnav has had only half an epiphany - your character shapes your own destiny, and that applies to everyone. He can shape his own. But he cannot shape everyone's. Including his Di's. Although he is once again trying to do so by taking her home with him. 

Khushi believes that everything is preordained. Nothing happens without the blessing of Devi Mayya. Khushi is a fatalist. But isn't it Khushi's character that shaped her destiny in the form of Arnav Singh Raizada? 

Khushi's do-good character brought her to Arnav's door and his arms. It was her character that attracted Arnav to her. She did not grow up with issues, because fate had dealt her a cruel blow in that her parents died in a crash. She accepted that this was her destiny. However, it did shape her character. She wanted to please everyone, keep everyone happy. With the wisdom of a fatalist she knows that she has no control over some things in her life - especially not Arnav Singh Raizada. She accepted the fact that Devi Mayya has chosen him for her. She always asks for guidance when she is troubled. Yet, did she ask for Shyam to be obsessed with her? No. Did she ask for Arnav to be in love with her? No. She accepted each of those, much as she accepted each hurt that Arnav subjected her to. However, when need be, she can fight back, and she can stoop, for her love. And when she finally finds love, she like Arnav, gives it her 100%, because like him, she is committed 100% to her love. She is doing everything according to her character, and each step she takes and each decision she makes is of her own free will - her own character. Devi Mayya gives her the strength to bear her burdens, never testing her more than she could bear. And she comes through with flying colors - because this is her character.

Today she stands beside her husband as his guide, his confidante, his best friend. She holds his hand, and leads him to the right decisions when he is grief-stricken. She restrains him from striking Shyam because she knows her husband's one big flaw. But like her husband, she is also determined that together, they will help heal their Di. Khushi has not had a big epiphany. She only has small ones, because she will take everything that Devi Mayya will give her, good, bad and ugly. This is her character, and it will shape what comes next for her. 

Anjali like Khushi, is a fatalist. A belief in God that everything will be handled by Devi Mayya. Today she lies in a hospital bed - why? Is is because God wanted her there? Or her own character that determined her destiny in the shape of Shyam? Did Anjali truly deserve to lose her baby?

Anjali went through as much or more trauma than Arnav did. Yet her character was such that she depended on a much younger child to help her through it. It is her character which brought Shyam Manohar Jha into her world. Her insecurities made her his target. Her need to be loved was fed by a man who had no problems in doing so - because she was only a means to an end. Her need to have him with her made her lie to her brother. In her need to be happy at any cost, she chose to disbelieve her brother. This is her character. Her selfish desire for happiness for herself is the need that Shyam fed. He could not have led her down a path of self-destruction, if she did not want to go there. Her Gods did not make her take the risks she took with the baby. It was the choices she took that led her to losing the baby. Did she deserve to lose the baby? Of course not. But it was her character or lack therof that caused this terrible disaster.

Shyam Manohar Jha like Arnav believes in writing his own destiny. He is a parasite that lived off his brother-in-law and his wife before his destiny in the shape of Arnav Singh Raizada threw him out of the house. But Shyam believes in his own character and the destiny he has chosen for himself. He will be inside Shantivan - before taking whatever action he wants to take against Arnav and Khushi. 

Shyam is a sociopath - and as such does not make any distinction between right and wrong. He follows the path that leads him to his goals, his obsession with Khushi, his greed for money, his need to have all that Arnav Singh Raizada has. Even if fate - in the shape of Shashi Gupta or Arnav Singh Raizada become obstacles in his path, he will remove it (or at least try to) - ruthlessly and mercilessly. His first real success is the murder of his own baby. And he rejoices in it. This is his character.

He plays the grieved and aggrieved father to Anjali and Dadi. He knows what they want to see and he gives it to them. They lap it up. But when he tries the same with Arnav, he fails. Arnav And Khushi are not impressed with his drama. They know his character and his love for twisting the truth And here fate deals him a little blow - Dadi says He loves Anjali a lot - in front of the two people who he knows would never, ever believe that sentence. He cowers for a moment and takes the blows that Arnav gives him. Then he makes another mistake. His big ego forgets that he is not supposed to even know Dadi. He puts his hand on her shoulder - a familiar gesture that neither Arnav nor Khushi mistakes. And as he walks away, he takes up Arnav's challenge. His character has brought him half-way to his destination. He will go back to Shantivan. This is the Destiny he has written for himself. Will fate be on his side once more?

Madhu...ClapClap

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Posted: 05 September 2012 at 2:17am | IP Logged
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Originally posted by msin

I loved the episode today ..because I loved the development in 

Khushi. Clap
Thank u cvs for showing the maturity and strength in khushi to stand by her man...

Earlier she used to give moral support hiding behind doors...
But today she stood behind the man wherever he faltered.. She was there to give him strength...

The family saw Arhi as an united strength... Arnav was shown to only rely on khushi...

Now more of this and we will see mrs Asr provided the marriage goes thru..


I really do not get the need to show flashback of Shyam...his ridiculous expressions, monologues...

And entry scene... The cvs become totally ektaish when he comes on screen..

Though I liked the scene where he cleverly accuses ranisaheba of not taking care of his baby..


Putting the guilt trip on ANJali, Dadi..

Oh Shyam tere paap ka ghara  kab bharega..

Arnav knock him out more and moreClap




And mrs manorama bond... And Payal Raizada... Did u not see blood stains of the new khoon Bhari taang on the staircase and glass shreds on her bedroom and feet blood stains ... On the room.


Is hari Prakash an accomplice of Shyam clearing it... If not he should brought this to notice of raizadas how did this blatant clues disappear...



And di had a room upstairs... Thus necessiting for her to fall down...how is the wheelchair with new KBT snoozing going to go upstairs...



Loved your take msin..Shatir dimaag..short precise..to the point..very earthy and readableStar

yeh how could dey miss out on such obvious clues..and doc never told raizadas tht their girl had glass wounds and tht she got an electric shock...Shocked

Latest Khoon Bhari taang ...Clap LOL

Shyam's entry was very kekta ..true..but yesterday was his day out..fearless..poisonous and deadly snake..nothing hurts him anymore..8 blows and he was still working on his plans to reenter RM..

A strong Antagonist will bring out stronger Protagonist..only i wish Mcfury rises now...he is underestimating the danger lingering on RM and on dii!! Did he not doubt dadi even for a moment yesterday in hospital..i had a feeling when he said "koi shyam ko iss gher mai wapas lane ki baat nahin keraega...koi nahin..n i mean it"..somewhere he has a hint..wake up raizada...its time..kuch nahi toh TRP kae liyae jaag jaa LOL

Then he has a wife who loves her Khushification..it will not be long before she will cry to bring Creepwa back for dii..and dadi jaise dost gher mai paale hai dushmanon ki darkar kya hai!!!




Yeah I agree khushi loves to put kulhaari in her pair... Some tears by creepy and she believed him

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Posted: 05 September 2012 at 2:20am | IP Logged
Originally posted by paayaal

cudn't resist...Wink





OMG PAYAAAL THIS IS AWESOME

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Posted: 05 September 2012 at 2:21am | IP Logged
Originally posted by msin

Originally posted by Mahamluvsght

2.8 with out any promo NOT BAD but this was a gr8 track for  6+ trps if it was promoted well dont knw whts is sp's  approach 

Wrote an angry feedback to starplus asking is candle wick your only show.. And may be that meetha meetha.. Does ipk garner no revenue in advertisement for u.., why do we get no promos of ipk..

Is star plus only meant for below class 5 audience... Who feel Internet is presence of danger in neighbourhood...please clarify...

U KNW  DESPITE SUCH HUGE PROMOTION FOR COKKREY SHOW IT FELL LIKE 10 DIGIST FROM 6.7 TO 5.6 ALL SP SHOWS FEEL ONLY IPKKND 'S TRPS RISE  WITH OUT ANY PROMO 

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Posted: 05 September 2012 at 2:33am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Mahamluvsght

Originally posted by paayaal

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OMG PAYAAAL THIS IS AWESOME

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Posted: 05 September 2012 at 2:35am | IP Logged
Originally posted by aditi07


Jeet Jayenge Hum..Jeet Jayenge Hum...
Tu Agar Sang Hai !!
Zindagi Har Kadam Ek Nayi Jung Hai !!
Zindagi Har Kadam Ek Nayi Jung Hai !!













Enjoy this lovely Song...I think its suits today  -


Jeet Jayenge Hum, Jeet Jayenge Hum
Tu Agar Sang Hai...
Zindagi Har Kadam Ek Nayi Jung Hai..
Zindagi Har Kadam Ek Nayi Jung Hai..
 
Tune Hi Sajaaye Hai Mere Hothon Pe Ye Geet

Teri Preet Se Mere Jeevan Me Bikhra Sangeet..

Mera Sab Kuch Teri Den Hai.. Mere Mann Ke Meet!!

Main Hu Ek Tasveer.. Tu Mere Roop Rang Hai !!
Zindagi Har Kadam Ek Nayi Jung Hai..


Hausla Na Chhod... Kar Saamnaa Jahaan Ka

Badal Raha Hai Dekh Rang Aasmaan Ka

 Ye Shikast Ka Nahi.. Ye Fateh Ka Rang Hai!!

Zindagi Har Kadam Ek Nayi Jung Hai..
Zindagi Har Kadam Ek Nayi Jung Hai..

Roz Kaha Dhoondenge Yeh Suraj Chaand Sitaaron Ko..

Aag Laga Kar.. Hum Roshan Kar Lenge Andhiyaaron Ko!
 Ghum Nahi Jab Talak Dil Me Yeh Umang Hai..

Zindagi Har Kadam Ek Nayi Jung Hai
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Lovely song choice Aditi...Clap
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Posted: 05 September 2012 at 2:37am | IP Logged
@aditi :wonderful post

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Posted: 05 September 2012 at 2:42am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Mahamluvsght

Clap  AND  THIS IS IPKKND . A SHOW WHICH HAS THE POWER TO MAKE PEOPLE OF ALL AGE GROUPS SIT AND WATCH IT WITH PASSION WITH EAGERNESS WITH AWE WITH ANGER WITH CLAPS  FOR THE COMMENDABLE PERFORMANCES Big smile

 MY DAD SAID " BARUN JAISA ACTOR DOBARA NAHI AYEGA , HE IS THE KING OF TELEVISION "Clap

 and there we saw two souls connected , she pacified him n he opened all his wonds  infront of her , shared all his fellings all the things he might have not shared with  his di too , he told her ! she calmed him with a sooth hug and told him he is a winner !

 (one of the best scenes in ipkk  SaRun par excellence !)

in the room the devil strikes again , abhaas was very nice performance wise and he left no stone unturned to make me hate shaym and abuse him right left n centre ! those red eyes and the way he cried to raj kumari was HILARIOUSSS almost every one laughed  on tht atleast in my house !

 anjali the brainless woman once again came in his  trap , this heartless man   tried hard to make anjali's condition worse ...Angry

i dont knw who should be said is more evil dadi or shaym ! how can dadi be this stupid ? damad jee damad jee damad jee  surely this  one aunty dosnt have any respect or shame !


 arnav who was entering the room with lots of hesitation and khushi's support  was shcoked to see snake in the room ! pulling him by the collar he took him out in a corridoor and took his class !
 KUDOS BARUN SOBTI .WHT A  MIND BLOWING PERFORMANCE ! U DIDNT YELL  YET U MADE US SHIVER ! one tight slap and 6 punches Clap.

 shaym tried to show he is innocent but aranv made sure he wont come near to anjali , khushi thru out stood there as the biggest support of arnav while dadi cried damad jee damad jee damad jee ..

 damad jee left all happ leaving saley sahab  more pissed but it seemed aranv  slightly suspected dadi's intentions . he marched to di's room and ordered for a discharge against dr's wish , dadi who kept saing u r ziddy  u r this u r tht he cared two hoots for all tht and did wht he had to bring anjali home 

at home every one is shocked to see anajli  on a wheel chair along with khushi n arnav . arnav made clear and sure tht khushi comes with him to the room Thumbs Up! they made  anjali lay on her bed and came out ! arnav made a clear announcement hittin to dadi tht NO ONE WILL TRY TO BRING  SNAKE  BACK HERE NO 1.


loved the episode barun sanaya  were out standing !ClapClap
Clap


 my only cocern here is tht it might be khushi who would give in for anjali's tears and req arnav to get snake Angryy ?this will be really silly on her part !

 and one more things why r writers glorifying a murderer?Angry

 trps out 2.8 on 10th with out a promo is Good but sp why no promos bhai ? y dis kolaveri di ?

Maham...ClapClap

I thought 7 punches...oh well who's counting, I was just very very happy to c S getting a slice of his just desserts!!!!!

K will bring S for Anji's sake...she's not being silly...K has a heart of gold...believes the best in every1...she just might believe that S emotions regarding the baby r genuine...that's what we love about K na...her loving heart...Smile

The writers are not glorifying a murderer...but unless they show the level that he'll stoop to, to achieve his objective, we wouldn't enjoy wen Arnav avenges all the wrongs committed against him & his loved ones!!!!

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