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Posted: 04 September 2012 at 11:13pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Divya1503

Originally posted by soni.b

chod na divs yahan toh thok ke bhav mein spoilers milte hain!!!!

her prev news were true Soni diConfusedI dint understand the second point, I mean remarriage n Shyam's entryConfused
sweetie...true or not true...doesn't make a difference...i mean why stress beforehand...epi ke pehle guess karke dimaag kyun kharab karna...dikhayange wohi jo unhe dikhana hai!!! so chill!!!!
and as far as their marriage is concerned...i already consider them married just like ASR!!!!LOL

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Posted: 04 September 2012 at 11:15pm | IP Logged

exactly Priya,

i dont know whether you r reading this...though d phangirl in me doing dhinka chika but  but...

1. khushi's dialogues...i wanted them to touch d heart...somewhere in this rush d character has taken a beating...

2. what was need of showing Shyam's entry for whole 3 mins?OuchOuchOuch ok drama element...

3. pls for god's sake stop showing d women as dumbos...i guess its enuf now
 
5. i seriously wish that Shyam has some solid reasons to justify his hatred or revenge against Raizadas...killing your own unborn child and thus risking d mother's life is no small crime...
 
6. nobody talking about d glass shards and how anjali's feet ...ShockedShocked
 
7. last but not d least ...i come from Amitabh Bachchan genre...d mukkkas should have looked more better...WinkWink...hitting Shyamu not stopping in d air...
 
sorry for ranting...as i always say i never pick up d remote ...i watch , rewatch and criticise too...because IPK is a part of my life...not just a work of fiction on SP...me phangirlTongueTongue
 
 
Originally posted by honeypriya

Originally posted by indi52

lovely episode.

would like to just note down my first impressions. priya, no crooner?

asr looking good, acting too good. and i like him in those ridiculous clothes. my hatke man.

shyam surprisingly didn't irritate me as much as he usually does. maybe because the dhaiya ho was not there today or was it? i personally prefer the slimy, creepy, potentially deadly shyam over the louder version on display since his revelation as the "boss" and particularly since his return. a little too fultoo for ipk i feel. 

subtle, underplayed, intuitive, unpredictable, clever, the words i instinctively associate with ipk, may they be blessed and protected.

enjoyed asr's dialogues. khushi's sounded very sp bahu. i wish she would work on her expressions a bit, director sahib may be of help in that. still can't take dadi, very very flat acting and an unpleasant voice/dialogue delivery.

jayshree t hardly spoke a word, yet her whole demeanour and expressions said so much. the worry of a grandmother for a grand daughter who has lost so much and is now fragile, compounded by the constant abrasiveness of her friend and samdhan, plus chhote's anguish, anger, and friction with dadi. how the old lady is frazzling and trying to hold on. it is tough on her.

dadi, fresh and untried by the travails of life after her 14 year retreat is all my way or the highway and full of energy. someone should tell her that frankly she lost the right to say so much the day she didn't take on her responsibilities and ran away. much as i dislike this character, must admit, such people do indeed exist. and they always walk away when things get tough.

i felt the entire episode held together nicely, pacing was tight, performances pretty neat, and no it didn't bother me that there wasn't too much of obvious romance. this is hardly the place for that. plus this one was about the face off with the evil in their lives. nice direction and writing,

once more, i adored asr today. barun just felt perfect. blood shot eyes, a fist full of justice, a heart bursting with love that will protect his loved ones with whatever it takes. thrilling and rare.
 
Di loved ur take...on a plin view level the epi woked fine for me too - not as great as Monday, but it was fine...as a phann gurll ASR BG music and the punches worked...and thats it, Di...
 
My issue is they are trying something which is beyond the scope of the telly setting, which is creating and will extent more backlash their way - they are playing with the evil nd darkness...which is fine - but at the cost of two women - earlier it was Khushi who was trampled without any rectification after the kidnapping track...and yesterday was Anjali.
 
it was like he trapped ASR to behave the way he wanted..Daadi is an uni-dimensional character...its time they show the match of ASR-shyaam to be of equals...the evil here has been winning since the Bauji's track without any justification...
 
to top it Di, right now its on moral grounds - a cold blooded murderer and they showing his entry as if he has won the Oscars...CVs need to rectify this ASAP.
 
 
 
I'll still buy that he is going to play with her emotional dependency now - but then Di at what cost are they glorifying the eveil


Edited by mouramen - 04 September 2012 at 11:20pm

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Posted: 04 September 2012 at 11:18pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by soni.b

Originally posted by Divya1503

Originally posted by soni.b

chod na divs yahan toh thok ke bhav mein spoilers milte hain!!!!

her prev news were true Soni diConfusedI dint understand the second point, I mean remarriage n Shyam's entryConfused
sweetie...true or not true...doesn't make a difference...i mean why stress beforehand...epi ke pehle guess karke dimaag kyun kharab karna...dikhayange wohi jo unhe dikhana hai!!! so chill!!!!
and as far as their marriage is concerned...i already consider them married just like ASR!!!!LOL

okies!!!Big smile Big smile btw I'm done with all my modules n head ache bhi hello hi bye bye hogayi!!!!!!Monkey Winks aaj se back in full form!!!!!Cool LOL LOL 

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Posted: 04 September 2012 at 11:22pm | IP Logged
A poem for ASR in Rilke's words...

"Quiet friend who has come so far,
feel how your breathing makes more space around you.
Let this darkness be a bell tower
and you the bell. As you ring,

what batters you becomes your strength.
Move back and forth into the change.
What is it like, such intensity of pain?
If the drink is bitter, turn yourself to wine.

In this uncontainable night,
be the mystery at the crossroads of your senses,
the meaning discovered there.

And if the world has ceased to hear you,
say to the silent earth: I flow.
To the rushing water, speak: I am." 

~Rainer Maria Rilke


Fabulous Crooner, hun...Sorry, I am so late to the game!! Hope and a prayer...the atheist finally came home...or at least thats what the CVs wanted us to take away from Monday's episode.  I was completely ambiguous watching the epi earlier today...a bit confused watching the man onscreen...a man who wrote his own destiny, who is THE believer in all things ASR, so dejected, so ready to seemingly give up...Priya, somewhere, the CVs had me stumped with this ASR, yaar...a disconnect! Yes, he was in a hospital, yes, it was a dialogue seemingly with himself, but as you said, he finally let her in--memories coming crashing around him.. Yes, he internalized Di's pain just as we thought he would, yes, he took responsibility for letting her down, but the biggest flaw in Monday's epi was the fact that the man onscreen was NOT the ASR I know!  

I sorely missed that ASR from Feb. 15th, yaar...those eyes ablaze with fury, vowing to avenge his Di...This ASR was ready to throw in the towel on life, that shaatir dimaag seemingly gone for a toss!!!  Weakness personified to a point that as a viewer, I could not relate to him...For me it was a two part failure--1) The screenplay--ASR's grief does not need to be OTT, but grief can and is the catalyst for the phoenix to rise; they should have shown the angst; the horror of losing his niece or nephew to be--a determination to find out how and why his Di got hurt!  Is ASR so clueless as to not notice the lacerations on her feet?  To not question the doctor again and in depth about the possible cause of trauma?  Doesn't the electrical shock that she received have anything to do with this; why didn't the doc say anything? Where is the logic here??? Which makes me want to believe that the doc is in cahoots with the snake...cliched to the max if thats the case!! 2)  The execution--very blase.  Having skipped two episodes over two day, it did little to stir me.  Reel me in...The only redeeming part of the epi was that hug: PERFECT...Sanaya NAILED it!  She looks him in the eye, just takes him in her arms, holds him close, those hands placed behind his head...consoling him in the most beautiful way she knows...She lets the tears flow...lets him have his moment...pouring her strength into him...The pain so visceral, so arresting...Vighnaharta stands as witness...Beautiful.  Sobti was shortchanged, BIG TIME!!! No. Doubt. About. It!

Tuesday's epi continued with the hug and the hands united in the presence of the remover of obstacles was the most poignant moment in the epi.  Another reminder that this union needs no pheras, no rasams, nothing to define what they mean to each other...Vinayaka has already blessed them and willed them to be together...Even as ASR was taking Shyam on, her hand was never far away from his...My biggest problem here is that I still do not find Shyam an adversary worthy of ASR.  Part of the failure lies with Abhaas and the director, but fundamentally, Shyam is nothing more than a pandering, philandering coward.  Period.  Not worthy of anything more than a Dhaiya-ho parody; a psychotic fruitcake, who just needs to be done away with.  After seeing him in that hospital scene with Anjali, I felt no fear, yaar; only intense irritation and anger that he is still around! The only reason the punches worked for me is because I want him gone now...he's been given too much screen space.  Ultimately, his juvenile scheming does not justify the miscarriage; and now its getting redundant!  Does that make sense?  Or is this the CVs' intention?  Anyway, I am way too tired to think it through...

Thank God, I saw the wheels turning in ASR's head--the only silver lining to seeing Dadi-Shyam togetherDead; really, amen for small mercies...Dunno how much longer I can be part of this pseudo good vs. evil play...Coupled with this new writer who is still learning the ropes, I am in FFing mode as necessary until I see something worth tuning in for...

I am sorry if I destroyed the "essence" of the epi for anyone; ArHi united and strong in their love is such a beautiful thing; I only wish Shyam were a true nemesis...Better I go into nazar andaaz mode again, rather than become a ttl Debbie Downer...Tongue

ETA~

Just realized I ttly skipped over this part of the "kahaani" element...yeah, thats how much it impacted me!LOLTongue  Felt flat, yaar...I hope they elaborate on it further...a year later, I was so hungering for more...Of course, its so clear that only one "angle" was seen and heard...just makes the hurt that much worse...


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Posted: 04 September 2012 at 11:23pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Divya1503

Originally posted by soni.b

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Originally posted by soni.b

chod na divs yahan toh thok ke bhav mein spoilers milte hain!!!!

her prev news were true Soni diConfusedI dint understand the second point, I mean remarriage n Shyam's entryConfused
sweetie...true or not true...doesn't make a difference...i mean why stress beforehand...epi ke pehle guess karke dimaag kyun kharab karna...dikhayange wohi jo unhe dikhana hai!!! so chill!!!!
and as far as their marriage is concerned...i already consider them married just like ASR!!!!LOL

okies!!!Big smile Big smile btw I'm done with all my modules n head ache bhi hello hi bye bye hogayi!!!!!!Monkey Winks aaj se back in full form!!!!!Cool LOL LOL 
wow that is good news!!!!Big smile

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Posted: 04 September 2012 at 11:26pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by beena14

Originally posted by jakhushi

Hey Priya & buddies...sorry I was MIA entire yesterday and couldnt read all the posts. Off to do that now.
 
As for last nights episode :  "Punch it up... Punch it up... Punch it up"Approve Big smile
 
Priya - Babes...I have 2 question :
 
Nani & Mami knows why Shyam was thrown out of the house - why arent they telling Dadi the whole Ram kahani?
 
Did ASR realize that Shyam had something to do with Dadi's return? For moment I thought I figured it out...maybe not. Confused Confused
 
 

Hello sweetheart Hug   tu bhi Shyamu ke tarah MIA thi missed you Cry Khushi , Mami /Nani ki chod why is ASR himself not telling Dadi asll he says is dhoka diya and Dadi bhi nahi pooch rahi hai Angry Hope ASR ka dimaag is firing some neurons, from Arnav's expression looked like he is on to something finally. CV's lauta doh mere ASR ko Cry 
 
@BeenadiHug... Very bad day yesterday...aapko kaal msg kiya tha kitni raat tak calls theh..went bonkers Ouch
I am waiting for those neurons to get activated too di. ASR needs some Brainolia Di... why is there no reference ever to Shyam's admittance on the fateful night, that he loves Khushi and his Di means nothing to himWacko
 
 
@ Soni - Hiya sweety. Ki khobor? Arr bolo na... My tryst here is as ill fated as Arnav & Khushi's wedding. And Work is my Shyamu Angry. Wish I could nuke both AngryAngry

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Posted: 04 September 2012 at 11:28pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by jakhushi

Priya,
 
Havent been able to post on Monday's episode... but I did read your Crooner. Brilliant take...Trust you to call a spade a sapde, without drowning in Bashing.
 
I thought both the episodes were  brilliant in parts.. 
 
On Monday, I loved Daljeet. Finally the actress in her woke up. And her realization of the truth only when she sees her Chotey - extraordinary screenplay.
 
The entire cast did a great job.
 
The music was brilliant...and some amazing shots on both the days. Especially Monday. Both Sobti & Sanaya were good... Sobti in ASR's grief, Sanaya as Khushi, the anchor. She brought in the 'therawd" (dang...how do I spell this hindi word Confused), that the scene required.
 
Yet, I thought the hug lacked the intensity that both should have got on the scene. Especially for ASR. While the final shot was beautiful...after I rewatched it, but I still felt that hug should have been the hug of someone who was trying to draw strength by that contact and the other trying protect him from his pain. That didnt come through for me.
 
I agree with you that AK should have demanded more from his actors - afterall Sobti & Sanaya cant see the scene while enacting it - he can.
 
Now on Shyam.
Maybe I am jumping the gun here - but I do continue to feel that focus on the evilness of Shyam will not hold their audience for long.
 
Darkness fascinates me... actually Grey does it for me more. Thats why I love ASR's character, but I digress. But I do believe darkness can appeal to people in short doses only. Unless ofcourse, one has sociopathic strains Wink. We all need a little ray of sunshine at the end of a long cold day.
 
There is enough pain in the real world, everyday grind that can pull you down, question your basic belief in humanity, in love, even decency. In a daily soap, the audience tunes in at the end of a long and maybe not so nice day, to see good triumph over evil. No social re-engineering causes needed to be taken up...but unless one can identify with the problem on screen and see the good overcome the evil (which might or might be the case in real life), why will that audience be drawn back to the show?
 
It worked when Shyam wasnt the centerfold of the story... because his evilness got outshone by the good in the IPK world. Why is that not happening?
I am yet to understand the significance & the need for Shyam setting up the video in RM - did anything come out of it really? Yet that was one example of evil going scot free...and without any further consequence to the story line. I do have an issue with such points.
 
I know Abhaas is a pretty decent actor - but are the actors & the love for them tweaking the storyline/screenplay to some extent? If so... that is extremely unfortunate.
 
I am sorry for the rant... I saw your response to Indrani di's post and I couldnt agree more. Ofcourse, IPK also does team me to be an optimist...so I will continue to be one. Aur option bhi toh nehi hai Ouch
 
But I think somewhere, we need something which is a little more substantial than  2+1slaps & 8 punches  for attempt to 2 murders (on 4 counts) , 1 kidnapping, 1 emotional attachyar and 1 murder of an unborn child.
 
I am hoping they can deliver atleast something strong in the interim, even if they dont close the chapter and bring him back on why he wants revenge track.
 
Again sorry for the rant... got carried away Embarrassed
 
The story is better paced now... that is something I really appreciate.
Technically they are doing quite a good job for the past 2 episodes. And I am loving the bond that is getting strengthened between Arnav & Khushi in these trying times.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
For some reason, Forum webpage keeps crashing for me at work, and I cant do much...Ouch
 
Was waiting to hear from u, coz no one is a better technical and sound view on Forum than you...believ me...I read evey post across the Forum - and yours and Rashmi's are always bang on...more head, than heart - and thats why perfect check for any epis !!!
 
Just read ur previous 2 Kostins, and this post - and you know the answer ? plain and stupid - someone loves that man silly - on and off screen - its the screenplay that highlights him - not the story - and why even when the screenplay is glorifying him, we dont get the desired effect - kyunki director saab has his focus on his lubher boy - so the euqation is simple - two camps playing in highlighting their lubher boy - ab dekhna hai to dekho Wink
 
So all our moralistic, fictional - judgement and analysis is good to read, debate, talk and write - we can romanticise our theories as much as we want - but darlng "khichdi" to kuch aur pakti hai - so hamein sirf Tamaasha dekhna hai LOL
 
Any kostin ??? Battle of ego Tongue

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Posted: 04 September 2012 at 11:28pm | IP Logged
khushi and faith.

yes, khushi was also orphaned young, losing both her parents on the same day. she only eight, still not acquainted with the visitor called death. "forever" not even a concept in her being. she looking for her parents, thinking they'll come back. sad sad tragic. but she was spared. she didn't watch her own parents take their lives. she didn't believe her father betrayed her beloved mother. she was not thrown out of her home, made shelterless by her own.

in fact, she was protected by her mother's own sister. garima gave khushi unimaginable love. she brought back khushi's trust in life. khushi's heart always had longing and sadness for her parents, but not the sense of betrayal that arnav had, the extreme helplessness of  a boy who has lost everything, except his loving elder sister. till nani steps in and tries to restore calm.

could garima and her commitment and love made a crucial difference in khushi's development, her sense of trust? and the fact that she always had a home and grew up amidst a happy family?

is that why she can have such complete faith in her dm and that really cool relationship? i think so.

and i hope khushi, who can be very intuitive, can see what ails arnav and know that his not trusting god is not a flaw or a crime, it is his stern answer to the reality that is his life. and she can learn to value his conscience, his courage and moral fibre, his ability to love extraordinarily, above conventional signs of "spirituality" and "faith." 



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