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3/9 Dragon Club: Chaddi Buddies? (Page 56)

MelodiousDreams IF-Rockerz

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Posted: 03 September 2012 at 8:19pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by angake

@Maham, Borna and Sammy, Oh boy what a treat to read your discussions. Loved it all, the decoding of Yash, the talks about Kratika/Divyam interview and about JDJ. 

@Kittya, welcome to the DC. I am so glad you popped in. If I didn't see yours and Borna's profile pictures, I could never tell just from the writing who is who. Loved your take.

@Borna, sigh! Your latest thoughts about the 3 pillars! So beautiful. Has Yash put a label on his feelings for Aarti?- I don't think so. In fact he still hasn't been able to label it and that is why he is stumbling around in darkness. He is restless. He is so angry at Aarti and all he can say is she betrayed me? But why? Why do you think she betrayed you? I don't think he has come to that question yet. Anyways, tomorrow will probably give us more clues.

All right guys, have to log off to do some work. Will see you all tomorrow. Hoping for a Truthful Tuesday. :)

Kirthi, why must you always stop by only to leave so soon? Ouch
Your comments of appreciation for my ramblings always makes me feel like my broken-record mentions of details doesn't go completely in vain! Embarrassed 
I agree that Yash has no idea how on earth to label his relationship with Aarti and maybe he doesn't want to either, because it's so complicated in terms of the various emotions that are overwhelming him. There's a magnetic pull that has been getting stronger and stronger, but there's also the opposite forces of his preconceived notions and upbringing and declarations of eternal love for Arpita that are all pulling him away in another direction.
At this point it's almost like Aarti was his guiding light...He kept following that light and its radiance, but when it suddenly disappeared for a moment or faded in intensity just a little, he stopped dead in his tracks and refused to move forward because she wasn't completely with him when he needed her the most - or maybe he wasn't able to move forward, I don't know...

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AngeloScuro IF-Rockerz

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Posted: 03 September 2012 at 8:22pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by kt25

@Angel - Loved your post my friend. Since we were discussing Adesh as Aman over the weekend, how cute was he today?? right.right.. I loved it when he said ":Sadoo kahika" and Arti did not even look up and give her famous stare which I was thinking that she would most definitely do LOL You can tell I absolutely positively love Aman's character but one thing that did bother me about him like other posters mentioned here is that if he is that aware of man/husband's perspective why does he feel the need to touch and pull her hand quite frequently. I have male friends that I work with and also hang out with but not like this. They give me an occasional hug if I am seeing them after a long time, may be a gentle pat in the back and that's the extent of it. To be honest, I would be creeped out if someone decides to come close that often regarless of their bff status. Again that's me and I do believe that the CVs did a little bit OTT.  

Oops I should have mentioned this in my take. I'm in a hurry most of the times so end up editing things as I go along.

Coming back to your point . That is the absolute truth, I completely agree with your view point. On a personal note I don't like being touched too much while talking.So I was like why is he holding her hand like that. Did not compute that!!LOL

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Deepti1808 IF-Rockerz

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Posted: 03 September 2012 at 8:25pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by MelodiousDreams

@Kittya: I meant to ask you a long time ago...is that your real name?
Welcome, welcome to the DC, and you'd better stick around for as long as the show holds your interest, because your post was an absolute delight to read! *hugs*
It's incredible...When exactly did you start watching the show?
Because while reading what you wrote, certain phrases kept jumping out at me. Those phrases and your insights kept taking me back to everything that the Mittals had hinted at from the promotional taglines of the show to the actual episodes to Yeh Dil Hai.
The three pillars that this show is exploring...
"Kya vishwaas dobbar ban sakta hai?
Kya sapne dobara sanjoye jaa sakte hai?
Aur kya pyaar dobara ho sakta hai?"
- Sapne: By mentioning that Aarti has always been portrayed as a something of a dreamer - and perhaps she herself is the embodiment of dreams that Yash could have inadvertently been weaving about "the life that could be..." - you reminded me of earlier discussions we had in the DC about how Aarti sees her love for Yash being reciprocated by him as an unattainable dream, and how Aarti was weaving a dream of being accepted wholeheartedly as a mother by Palak and Payal...Now we're turning to that elusive dream of togetherness, it seems...It's like the time Aarti was running from Yash on the beach. She ran from him playfully, just beyond his reach, but he caught her, only to be tricked by her innocent play-acting into having to pursue her again...They fell onto the sand together then, breathless and happy in their togetherness for perhaps the first time, without truly realizing it.
- Vishwaas: Pretty self-explanatory at this point, I should think...Aarti's unwavering, perhaps naive, faith in Yash versus Yash's brittle trust in Aarti...She had gained his trust this time to such an extent that something extremely potent (a combination of deep-rooted complexities and insecurities) shattered that trust...Or is there still some trust left that he is not consciously willing to acknowledge? Aman's dialogue about men being more egotistical than women makes me wonder...
- Pyaar: I'm not going to repeat what I said earlier, but you've touched on the main points about Aarti's POV beautifully. Does Yash want to fight the very possible reality that he is indeed falling in love a second time - does he even consider that as the label for what he is feeling? Whatever it is, it's haunting him constantly...
- Darkness and light: The most-emphasized stanza of Yeh Dil Hai so far, from both Yash and Aarti's perspectives...Right now, Yash is enveloped by the darkness after he had been following the light that Aarti held out in front of them but suddenly took away, accidentally...But Aarti had also been in the dark about the causes of her husband's rage. She tried to follow that distant light at the end of the tunnel, though, and now Aman seems to be her guiding light, as indicated in the recent promo...
Those were only a few thoughts...But your writing...Loved every word!
My favorite part, because of the sheer beauty of it:
"Mumbai showed him exactly what his life could be. The real life after Arpita. Not just the meagre dried out existence he had confined himself to. Aarti invaded his mind, stole his senses, wrapped her presence around him like a second skin, and helped him begin the process of diffusion. The much needed assimilation with the life that was moving around him. Yet, while she gave him all of this, he barked at her for her little acts of love, crucified her with his eyes for confessing to love him, and showed no interest in her life apart from the children."


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MelodiousDreams IF-Rockerz

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Posted: 03 September 2012 at 8:29pm | IP Logged
I've noticed that so many people are talking about Aman's habit of touching Aarti and holding her hand...
And I just shrugged it off as the habit of a close friend who is demonstrative of affection, easy-going, extroverted and naughty and cheerful by nature. There are some guys like that...It's kind of hard to suddenly reign in one's natural mannerisms, I feel...So Aman's gestures are okay with me, although I have an inkling that his demonstrative nature is not going down well with the Scindias, and that's all very well because they're probably not accustomed to such mannerisms.

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Posted: 03 September 2012 at 8:30pm | IP Logged
Hey Angel...those were great points in your take. Spot on, dear friend. You pick the gist of an episode so well.Thumbs Up

Oh Borna...I absolutely loved your last post. Yash really is scared to tag his relationship with Aarti...In fact the dunce is scared that he feels this kinship...this bonding...with her. By himself he doesn't know what to do with it...and feels the weight of its fragility more...Poor, poor Yash!!!

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Samanalyse IF-Rockerz

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Posted: 03 September 2012 at 8:33pm | IP Logged
@Kittya: That is just ridiculous! You must not let anything stop you from posting such wonderful insights here. I am completely bowled over by your analysis! I especially loved the observation that Arpita was the bridge between his real self and the world outside. Only problem is that he got so infatuated with the process of using the bridge that he forgot what it was there for, to get to the other side. Once the bridge was gone, he didn't even make an attempt to cross over and everyone, down to his little girls were stranded on the other side. I think Ansh was the first person to start rebuilding that bridge.

As for his feelings of inadequacy, they have not been shown explicitly but have definitely been hinted in his role as a father. Not only did he tell Arpita's picture that nobody could love the girls as much as she did, he was also constantly sidelined by the women in his family, who kept telling him he couldn't do things like combing Payal's hair. So I don't know about anything else, but he definitely felt inadequate as a dad from the beginning.

@Veena: Interesting observation about Yash's expression when PP were complaining about their wives. I think it also had an element of anger because Yash wishes his problems were as simple as the Ps'.

@Kirthi: I am so with you on the spanking! And I would throw SP in there too because even though he has been a gem of late, his sons have learned this horrid behaviour from the way he treats Gayatri, no doubt about it. Spanks for everyone!

I had similar thoughts about Aarti in Mumbai. She was totally free and uninhibited, as compared to her restrained self in Bhopal. I guess Yash thought that Aarti was only for him, and nobody else...and then along came Aman who probably saw the real Aarti as a matter of course. Yash realised Aarti hadn't opened up only to him...she had been closed off only to him!

@Angel: I loved your point about Yash in the kids' room. There was an odd peace on his face at that moment and even a smile when he picked up the poetry. I know it sounds morbid but it reminded me of the scene when he was reading Arpita's card. He has clearly gotten better at mourning those who are absent than making people who are there happy.

@Indu: Ack! The ol' PVSM connection rushed over me like a wave today as though welcoming me back into its folds. I am thoroughly freaked out right now. I guess a few days of being away will do that. Anyway, as always I LOVED your write up on the episode. It was such a gentle and loving admonishment to our two beloved dunces, one who cannot see the good in himself and one who cannot see the grey (or green, for that matter) in others. This Mira is being taught that her Krishna is no god, but a mere mortal just like her. She will no longer be under the illusion that her "lord" can make no mistakes, and thus hopefully will start a companionship of equality and balance.

@Borna: Loved your response to Kittya, especially the line about Aarti being the embodiment of Yash's dreams. When I read that I started having a weird deja vu feeling and then I zeroed in on the line in the beach promo "sapne saare rootein mujhse." Aren't the connections these writers make UH-mazing? Because that is like Yash's answer to the second pillar...or so he thinks. In Mumbai, suddenly his dreams started making friends with him again, and weren't so angry, possibly because they had a new place to live, within the radiant and joyful Aarti who was taking Yash's hand and leading him into the future. 

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Deepti1808 IF-Rockerz

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Posted: 03 September 2012 at 8:35pm | IP Logged
Top five mysteries of the world:
5)Does God exist?
4)Why are we on this planet?
3)Do aliens exist?
2)What happens after we die?



1) W T H HAPPENED IN MUMBAI?????????????????????????????????????????????????

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EnchantedForest IF-Sizzlerz

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Posted: 03 September 2012 at 8:35pm | IP Logged
Welcome back to India forums Samana!!

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