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Posted: 03 September 2012 at 5:33pm | IP Logged

Okay, I just read all of Samana's take on the first page (finally!) and loved loved loved it...And I'm also back to feeling not-so-sympathetic towards Pankaj and Prateek! LOL.

 
Yash is definitely going through hell right now - that tunnel of fire analogy that I never got a chance to revisit after that fire episode is still fresh in my mind. Things just got worse after that fire, didn't they? That's assuming that Aman arrived after the last flashback of the fire...For Yash to finally start coming to terms with the fact that there might just be some hope that he's not completely worthless and undeserving of the happiness and freedom that he sees when he's with Aarti, and then to have that light move away from him (temporarily, but I don't think he feels that way) when Aman appears...that must have been devastating! Samana and Maham, beautiful elaborations on the impact this has had on Yash's sense of self-worth and his closeness with Aarti...I can't wait to see how this all plays out!
 
@Maham: Can I just get away with a resounding "Word!" to all of that? You know I could write pages about a certain jodi...But I have work to do and I think I've put it off for long enough! All I can say about the offscreen segments (or lack thereof) is, it's never enough...LOL! 
 
Edit: Just HAD to add this...GC and KS and PV have made me slip into perpetual fangirl mode (and that's something I never thought would happen, especially to the extent that is happening because of those two!). I remember feeling very happy when I noticed that during one of the 100 episode party segments, Gurmeet and Kratika were talking to each other for a little bit while Debina was speaking to someone else, and Gurmeet turned to Debina and gestured towards Kratika...It was cute. And the "tiffin" comment was another priceless moment, too. I've become a hopeless case...What to do?


Edited by MelodiousDreams - 03 September 2012 at 5:42pm

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Posted: 03 September 2012 at 5:43pm | IP Logged
@Maham: Grr! Angry I hate it when that happens, the backspace thing.

But your nutshell did just fine too so we won't cry over the spilled milk. Smile

All I can say is, exactly. I don't know if Yash had thought about himself as worthy or not, but he was certain that he could never love again after Arpita. He was comfortable in that space and that knowledge, which I think is what was shown by those two promos on the beach. "Na koi aaya hain, na koi aayega kabhi." I think it was only when he started becoming aware of Aarti's feelings for him that he began to actually look at himself and question his own worthiness. And at every turn she managed to show him his reflection in the best possible light. If he made mistakes she gave him easy ways to correct them and then never looked back. So. like you said he started to see himself as worthy which is when he slowly opened up and let himself live, and get closer to Aarti without any inhibitions, enjoying her more relaxed self too. But I guess things took a turn for the worse when Aman came on the scene. I think Aarti may have divided her attention when he came, partly because she was bursting with her own feelings and emotions that she was dying to share with someone whom she could trust.

What Yash saw was the one person since Arpita's death who had managed to break down his walls, and really understand him, being understood and understanding someone else better. So it must have looked like what was a big deal for Yash, and a big step out of his zombie lifestyle, was another friendly relationship for Aarti...ouch, rejection much? I really wonder if Aman came on the scene before or after the fire. Because if it was before, then I totally understand why he was looking at Arpita's pictures. It has always been his defense for when he perceives Aarti's "indifference" towards him. Remember after Aarti saves him from the car, he tries to thank her and she brushes him off? He immediately started talking to Arpita's portraits. Same way, I think he wanted to do that after Aarti came home late but there was no Arpita stuff for him to make a display of his undying love and fight this non-existent battle with Aarti over who is least interested in the other. SO he wanted to rush home to Bhopal to be with Arpita's things.

If you see the trajectory of Yash's anger. It started off with just sarcasm and snapping while they were loading the car in Mumbai, to Yash pushing Aarti away and walking to his room, to him completely losing control whenever he saw her, finally to him just losing his hold on sanity altogether and I think the latter stuff, after the push at the door, happened because of what transpired, or rather didn't after they came back to Bhopal. He couldn't go back to his old life with Arpita's things. What I think happened is that Aarti triggered this phase of self evaluation for Yash, and while she was there 100% at the beginning to make sure he only saw good in himself and took those tentative steps forward, once Aman came on the scene, she may have left Yash to his own devices, which meant that he was still evaluating himself but now solely through his bitter lens, without Aarti's light for balance. And so the insecurities, the bitterness and the self-loathing took over his mind instead of the peace of mind and self confidence he was building with Aarti and the kids.

It has a lot to do with how little Aarti thinks of herself and her importance to Yash in this process of healing. It is not anything she does that helps him, just who she is, and I think it just about killed him that she was more who she is, with someone else. I don't think the 3am thing is the only reason, though I do think that may be why they rushed back to Bhopal. In Mumbai, when they were leaving, I think Yash was just extremely irritated at Aarti's lack of responsibility (for the 3am thing) and wanted her to stop pretending to be such a goody-goody about the kids and his family. Maybe he was saying something like, if you are so concerned about the kids why'd you come home so late? And then he had the whole plane ride to stew and overanalyse and get angrier, then the Arpita cave did not display its wonders, no matter how much he tried, and finally when thunder struck, he thought of a playful Aarti and not a dying Arpita. So I think it was a spiral, and part of the reason he is not saying what happened in Mumbai, because what he is suffering is so much bigger than that by now.

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Posted: 03 September 2012 at 5:51pm | IP Logged
@Sammy: That post...another analytical reference right there! *standing ovation*
 
I feel like I never get a chance to talk to you enough, which is so unfortunate because I always gain so much insight and understanding into the characters' thoughts and motivations through reading your posts and the DCians' responses to them!
 
Is it odd that I want to go and rewatch all of this post-Mumbai "dragging" stuff now after reading your brilliant verbal graph of Yash's trajectory of anger?
 
This right here (until the end of your post up there, since IF is being annoying), is amazing, amazing, amazing!
 
"What I think happened is that Aarti triggered this phase of self evaluation for Yash, and while she was there 100% at the beginning to make sure he only saw good in himself and took those tentative steps forward, once Aman came on the scene, she may have left Yash to his own devices, which meant that he was still evaluating himself but now solely through his bitter lens, without Aarti's light for balance. And so the insecurities, the bitterness and the self-loathing took over his mind instead of the peace of mind and self confidence he was building with Aarti and the kids..."


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Posted: 03 September 2012 at 5:52pm | IP Logged
@Samana I think Aman came after the fire, because on Friday's episode Aman asked Aarti if the sadoo said anything to her again and it sounded serious. The only really serious thing I can think about is the fire incident. There was that misunderstanding where Yash thought Aarti wanted to be Arpita, but Aarti didn't seem to affected by it in the end, because she herself cleared that. 

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@Borna: We can fix that now that I am in a different time zone! LOL

Anyway. I was thinking a lot about Yash's anger and I realised it has not been a single, fixed emotion for more than one or two episodes. If we look more closely, there is a whole parallel narrative right there in all the different emotions Yash has gone through since they came back from Mumbai. To be honest, I never thought of any of these episodes as fillers. They are just a little harder to understand because we don't know the root cause, but I just love seeing the story that Yash's unexplained behaviour is telling us and trying to interpret that, while simultaneously incorporating the details we get from the flashbacks. It is really like a putting together a jigsaw puzzle where you don't have the top of the box for a guide! Wink

I am fairly certain everything is going to fall neatly into place when we see the whole picture, and I have DABH to thank for that. There also the male lead was acting insufferable but the explanation they gave his character to wrap that up and the way it culminated left nobody unsatisfied and un-dazzled. I have full confidence that we have a similar climax coming here, and I am nothing but totally excited!

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Posted: 03 September 2012 at 6:09pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by ilovepyaar

@Samana I think Aman came after the fire, because on Friday's episode Aman asked Aarti if the sadoo said anything to her again and it sounded serious. The only really serious thing I can think about is the fire incident. There was that misunderstanding where Yash thought Aarti wanted to be Arpita, but Aarti didn't seem to affected by it in the end, because she herself cleared that. 


They could have met before the fire too, and Aarti met Aman later that day to tell him what happened between her and Yash. Maybe all three were supposed to hang out, but Yash decided to stay home and mope? Tongue

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@All - When Yash keeps talking about that "Uss Barsaat Waali Raat" he keeps imagining Arti in rain but that scene where Arti is playing in the rain does not look like it was shot during their Mumbai trip. If I am not mistaken that was when she was playing in the rain when she went out to the patio of their bedroom to collect the clothes before they got wet. I also remember yash chiding her and making a statement that he does not approve childish acts .Am I right in thinking this or did I miss something where she was playing in the rain some other time in Mumbai and doing the same task of collecting the clothes Confused

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Posted: 03 September 2012 at 6:21pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Samanalyse

@Borna: We can fix that now that I am in a different time zone! LOL

Anyway. I was thinking a lot about Yash's anger and I realised it has not been a single, fixed emotion for more than one or two episodes. If we look more closely, there is a whole parallel narrative right there in all the different emotions Yash has gone through since they came back from Mumbai. To be honest, I never thought of any of these episodes as fillers. They are just a little harder to understand because we don't know the root cause, but I just love seeing the story that Yash's unexplained behaviour is telling us and trying to interpret that, while simultaneously incorporating the details we get from the flashbacks. It is really like a putting together a jigsaw puzzle where you don't have the top of the box for a guide! Wink

I am fairly certain everything is going to fall neatly into place when we see the whole picture, and I have DABH to thank for that. There also the male lead was acting insufferable but the explanation they gave his character to wrap that up and the way it culminated left nobody unsatisfied and un-dazzled. I have full confidence that we have a similar climax coming here, and I am nothing but totally excited!
 
 
Ah yes! You're in a closer time zone now! Big smile
 
@bold: *bone-crushing hug* That's exactly how I've felt about this entire post-Mumbai "track" - I keep referring to it as a jigsaw puzzle, too. There are colors and patters and lots of pieces, but we don't know where they fit yet...Sometimes we might mistake a piece for being something that it isn't...I'm being confusing now, so I'll shut up and let you do the talking! LOL
 
Isn't this the fascinating thing about PV's narrative as a whole? Ever since the very first episode, when I remember staunchly refusing to associate Aarti with the words "sati-savitri" and the negative connotations that came with those words, we've been taken on this journey where we're constantly forming opinions and then having to reassess and re-evaluate our understanding of the characters based on the way they deal with their circumstances, both internal and external. There's a constant undercurrent of change and evolution...And so I continue to wait and watch patiently...
 
PS - The DABH viewers pessimism phase...I feel like I remember that because I randomly saw all this negativity on YT...And when people on IF were all apologetic after things cleared up, I realized, "Ah. 'Wait and watch with patience' is the mantra with being a viewer of a Mittals show."
 
Needless to say, my excitement is only rising with every passing episode! Plus we're getting to see such superb performances from each and every cast member - what more could we ask for? (Besides more GC-KS interviews...that's beside the point)
 
I'll have to leave you all now! Expecting a ton of great discussion pages to be waiting for me after I finish all my mountains of homework!

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