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Posted: 25 August 2012 at 12:46pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Mindbender

Originally posted by Angel-likeDevil

 
To survive in the society, i.e. to pursue my career goal, to lead a good systematic lifestyle with nice dogmatic ethical values and principles so that my future son will lead a good life(afterall, a parent is the one that provides a nurturing environment for a new life - my future child), and to gain knowledge and grow in terms of personality.. "I"  think "I" should be like a so-and-so character.. this character is the exterior layer of 'myself'.. full of ..IDK, it is like a container.. full of my character traiters, my psychological traits, my IQ, my emotional nature.
 
 
But, these^ look very superficial to me.. when I look deeper, to see what and who the hell am I, I dont get an answer. Is there really an answer? Or am I absolutely making no sense?
'Character traiters" . LOL
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I think that whenever one starts having the feeling of 'I should be like so and so' , it somewhere implies a resistance to the natural flow. After all, if you are thinking that you 'should' be like that, it simply means you are not happy with who are you are right now. And how can one use 'how I should be' to define one's present self?
 
Ofcourse! Tongue ..to survive in this society where one needs to qualify career-wise, one needs to have a personality for that. Although, the degree of originality will be differing from person to person...

Secondly, to think that having certain values and principles in yourself will make sure that your future son (you are already assuming it's going to be a boy? ) will have a good life is a reasoning which is based on many assumptions. One needs to be aware of those.
 
Yeah, I want a son Tongue ..yes, I believe in a systematic way of life, success, hardwork first... then one can live life the way he/she wants. And provision of a good life and environment for the baby is essential, for him to grow up beautifully. Heart

Anyways, finding the answer to "who am I" is a process, I guess. Each day you become something new, so how can the answer be static? Yeah, there's this thing we have heard about having a core inner being which is constant irrespective of the changes around us. But then, it's something which we have only heard, not yet experienced. So thinking that it 'must' be there with a hundred percent belief can lead to problems. It's meant to be found out, not believed.
 
That's what I was trying to say. Not experienced? why not.. i feel there's someone(me) deep inside. Iff I look at my whole journey from my toddler days and up until now... it's like, there's deep inside a 'me' that's just watching me transform, morphosize intellectually, socially, physically, in all ways. I dont get what you mean by it's meant to be found out... will you elaborate?

Also, we have accumulated so many layers while trying to deal with the society that I guess coming back to oneself suddenly or even thinking that one will get the answer to who he is instantaneously is quite unreasonable. It has to be a slow process of peeling those layers, which actually starts with realizing that those layers exist ! It's sort of an enlightenment actually as one begins to observe himself, starts to realize that sometimes those things for which the society might appreciate him are actually meant to lead to his downfall in the long run. When these things start striking you, then change starts automatically within oneself  and with each step, we come closer to the realization.
 
Thanks! ..i agree with this completely, well said! :)

But all this is eventually, a hypothesis. A belief, Or at least, an extrapolation...
 
It's certainly not a belief LOL 
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Posted: 25 August 2012 at 1:15pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Angel-likeDevil


Secondly, to think that having certain values and principles in yourself will make sure that your future son (you are already assuming it's going to be a boy? ) will have a good life is a reasoning which is based on many assumptions. One needs to be aware of those.
 
Yeah, I want a son Tongue ..yes, I believe in a systematic way of life, success, hardwork first... then one can live life the way he/she wants. And provision of a good life and environment for the baby is essential, for him to grow up beautifully. Heart

Ok, now see- this can be a sure shot recipe to disaster. You are already, perhaps unknowingly, expecting great things out of the child. If suppose, you do get all that you desire and give the 'boy', what you consider, the ideal environment, then what next? From the manner in which you seem to write, I am interpreting that you'll automatically expect something great out of him. But these things don't necessarily follow the law which we seem to think they should. Of course, I am not going against the possibility of the boy indeed growing up to be successful, etc but it's just that one needs to be aware of  such things not being in his or her hands.

Anyways, finding the answer to "who am I" is a process, I guess. Each day you become something new, so how can the answer be static? Yeah, there's this thing we have heard about having a core inner being which is constant irrespective of the changes around us. But then, it's something which we have only heard, not yet experienced. So thinking that it 'must' be there with a hundred percent belief can lead to problems. It's meant to be found out, not believed.
 
That's what I was trying to say. Not experienced? why not.. i feel there's someone(me) deep inside. Iff I look at my whole journey from my toddler days and up until now... it's like, there's deep inside a 'me' that's just watching me transform, morphosize intellectually, socially, physically, in all ways. I dont get what you mean by it's meant to be found out... will you elaborate?

Since, you already seem to be experiencing that inner being- the eye that watches all our actions dispassionately-my above statements can be declared null and void really. I was just implying that one should not necessarily believe in that inner self without having realized it himself. After all belief is, you know, just belief! Realization is something vastly more substantial.


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Posted: 25 August 2012 at 1:28pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Mindbender

Originally posted by Angel-likeDevil


Secondly, to think that having certain values and principles in yourself will make sure that your future son (you are already assuming it's going to be a boy? ) will have a good life is a reasoning which is based on many assumptions. One needs to be aware of those.
 
Yeah, I want a son Tongue ..yes, I believe in a systematic way of life, success, hardwork first... then one can live life the way he/she wants. And provision of a good life and environment for the baby is essential, for him to grow up beautifully. Heart

Ok, now see- this can be a sure shot recipe to disaster. You are already, perhaps unknowingly, expecting great things out of the child. If suppose, you do get all that you desire and give the 'boy', what you consider, the ideal environment, then what next? From the manner in which you seem to write, I am interpreting that you'll automatically expect something great out of him. But these things don't necessarily follow the law which we seem to think they should. Of course, I am not going against the possibility of the boy indeed growing up to be successful, etc but it's just that one needs to be aware of  such things not being in his or her hands.

I am not expecting.. i just want to provide great environment and shower my love on him, how he will turn out be - successful, failure, mediocre, etc.. is none of my concern. My blessings will always be with him... okay, i am sounding like I really have a baby LOL



Anyways, finding the answer to "who am I" is a process, I guess. Each day you become something new, so how can the answer be static? Yeah, there's this thing we have heard about having a core inner being which is constant irrespective of the changes around us. But then, it's something which we have only heard, not yet experienced. So thinking that it 'must' be there with a hundred percent belief can lead to problems. It's meant to be found out, not believed.
 
That's what I was trying to say. Not experienced? why not.. i feel there's someone(me) deep inside. Iff I look at my whole journey from my toddler days and up until now... it's like, there's deep inside a 'me' that's just watching me transform, morphosize intellectually, socially, physically, in all ways. I dont get what you mean by it's meant to be found out... will you elaborate?

Since, you already seem to be experiencing that inner being- the eye that watches all our actions dispassionately-my above statements can be declared null and void really. I was just implying that one should not necessarily believe in that inner self without having realized it himself. After all belief is, you know, just belief! Realization is something vastly more substantial.

 

OK, this wasnt based on any belief, Mindbender .. Tongue have you never felt like this? like there's a you, deep inside that is just watching your mentalities, etc transform as time passes by.. but the you inside is still the same, watching..



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Posted: 25 August 2012 at 1:31pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Angel-likeDevil

I am not expecting.. i just want to provide great environment and shower my love on him, how he will turn out be - successful, failure, mediocre, etc.. is none of my concern. My blessings will always be with him... okay, i am sounding like I really have a baby LOL

Yeah. LOL


OK, this wasnt based on any belief, Mindbender .. Tongue have you never felt like this? like there's a you, deep inside that is just watching your mentalities, etc transform as time passes by.. but the you inside is still the same, watching..

I feel that all the time! That is what we mean by awareness, I guess. Observing your thoughts, your actions. Just observing them, changes them.

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Posted: 27 August 2012 at 3:53am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Beyond_the_Veil

Someone who has a life so won't be participating in this ... (oh wait!- didn't I do just that now?!)
or someone who already had enough from his life would be participating in this ...who knows LOL
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Freethinker112
I see a resemblence. ONe is a freethinker and the other thinks freely.LOL
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Posted: 29 August 2012 at 12:52am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Summer3

Freethinker112
I see a resemblence. ONe is a freethinker and the other thinks freely.LOL

And what exactly is that supposed to mean? I haven't even replied in this thread, yet.

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