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well said QT. as always.
Joined: 13 January 2006
Location: United States
oh i was so hoping that you'd have something for the moral policing stuff. that's my favorite
and i did give you the first line in that post- flirting NOT being harmless. though that might be a bit like mark anthony's speech misleading the killers with his famous first line
Mark Antony also , rahul , a weasel who hid while brutus stabbed ceasar and emerged to be the lothario for his inamorata cleopatra after the coast was clear for him to jump in had he survived actium carnage i bet he would have flirted with cleo's maidservant even in the interest of variety..
afford equal opportunity to both sides of the argument? good stuff. am all for it, provided we do have both sides appear with real, not fake, identities and talk things out openly and with proper decorum. cant have one side attack freely and with impunity behind a fake id. also as long as criticism of someone's idol is not construed as "reeking of regionalism". and as long as we realize that there are far worse things in life than a joke about "ducks" which actually is related to the game of cricket. what's worse? imo, some of the really bawdy stuff (such as "stiff" etc). even the dhobi ka ghat for dhoni, and the gadha for gajendra singh, lines. the latter fwiw can actually be seen as casting names in an ethnically negative way. also, slinging personal info back at someone ceases to be fun after a while, especially when repeatedly used in a mocking off-topic way. what does a member's financial background have to do with the thread? someone also expressed "hurt" over a fairly light-hearted phrase used in response to their post. sorry, they felt hurt? nothing on the attacks that went on on another person? would that be a case of selective hurting?
without that kind of understanding, i am not sure i want to participate in the "discussion". cant be bothered listening to people who cant even stand up without fake IDs. if they cant have the courage of their convictions to come out in the open, then that's not exactly who i would want to deal with on an intellectual level. silly me, no?
Viewbie's Note: Due to innumerable personal attacks, I have no option but to raise your warning level. It is my humble request to you to please be polite on the forum. If your behaviour improves, we will lower your warning level.
DM Dev Team.
Joined: 20 September 2004
Thank you for putting up the note Maryam.
Friends, lets remember that each poster has a view and is expressing his/her opinion, no matter how unpalatable. If the expression is put in a wrong fashion which we beleive is not condusive to the kind of atmosphere that is inducive of cordiality and participation of members of all ages and gender group on India Forums, such posts shall be removed and members warned.
Please do not make it a platform to vent out personal grudges.Now please continue with the posting. And discuss the topic, NOT the members. The only concern should be what they think and put across your points in a civil manner to counter those. Any posts having dubious phrases, direct or indirect attack, trolling, sexual innuendos will be removed as soon as we come to know of it
IF Dev Team.
Joined: 25 September 2005
Joined: 10 January 2006
We treat all members on the website as equals, age does not make a person mature
However, there are also places such as IF, where we laugh at and enjoy a casual flirt chat which is not objectionable.To you, for someone else it might be objectionable, that is the point here, it is everyone's defination, those are personal limits
I partially agree with you point on why members other than DEV TEAM should not be policing. Often times, members think that as adults, they could resolve certain matters w/o running to dev team.
That exactly is the point, everyone in a discussion is to be treated equal, when one trys to be adult and teach others how to be adults, they are infact putting another one down, no-one comes to the internet to listen to moral sermons, everyone has opinions, when one indulges in an act of flirting, they expect mature behaviour from everyone, the opposite party as well as bystanders, if you read my initial post carefully, that is what I said, the people flirting are on a wavelength, the moral police is the one who is unable to scale up to that wavelength, that is that moral police's fault!!
Dev team is not paid for their work here. They volunteer too!! Can we not act like adults and follow rules?
certainly, treat everyone fairly, that is where the moral police forget their responsiblity as mature adults and act like jealous crybabies, they dont have that much of moral aptitude to understand what is fun for others and try to enforce it on others.
No self-employed moral police will make their own set of rules.
Actually , read over statement again, who is a moral police, it is their morals that are getting inflicted on others
Suppose you and me are chatting, someone else comes in and says hey you cannot have this discussion here or can say it, that is that persons moral that is speaking, that person is on a moral high and is trying to impose that on others, if we were straying from rules, they would have contacted the moderators!
Most of the times, they will ask others to stick to forum rules. In fact, they will also provide links to Dr AS's forum rules thread (The most over-ruled lately is the language rule)
And if you rememberr that was my point of contention with AS, I had brought that up with Abhi that it is a Dev Team member responsibility , or else you have a lot of ordinary people masquerading as (moral)cops, Think RSS, Think VHP this is exactly what we chide them for
If a moral police (someone requesting posters to follow rules) ruins the fun most other people are having as you suggested somewhere earlier, then perhaps they are the ones at the wrong forum, not the moral police!
We are not talking about rules here, if someone flirts and a website allows it, that is in the rules
If the forum rules are followed, there will be no offensive chat and everybody can enjoy the little flirting, the little chat and a whole lot of idea-sharing.
little is a subjective term again, little for you might be too much for someone else, when it is subjective, that is where the line gets stretched or contracted, there is a report button or a email to moderator, that is what this is supposed for, more often than not, I have seen people contracting it and creating a atmosphere of inequality amongst members, causing an unrest.
I have gone overboard describing my lack of like for extramariatl sexual chatting and will not repeat like a broken record.
no idea what that is all about but now you dont want to discuss it, but that implication in the statement is wrong
Those latter in particular are just my views and they are not forced on anyone, since forum code does not speak of them. It is one's own choice what they do with their time and life!
Right on, exactly the thing I am saying this entire conversation!!
I am existing this thread now. I have accepted and always shared many of your views. I have strong negative feelings about certain behavioursince some rules define and guide who I am as a member of IF and member of society.
I hope you understand where I was coming from and that I have tried not to offend anyone. Apologies if you felt otherwise.
QT, My thoughts and not towards you personally but at people who act as moral police and my closing remarks on this topic
I have mentioned over and over, I do not like someone giving me or someone a sermon if you are not authorized to give on, zip it. If anyone wants moral lessons, they will open up their living room door and talk to their parents or significant other or elders.
If one has a problem with a conversation, report it to the moderator or exit the thread.
Dont be a spoilsport
Dont be a crybaby
Dont be creating an environment of inequality amongst fellow members.
That momentary unavailability of a moderator turns into a life-long nightmare for the administrators and distrust amongst members.
We dont come to internet to play politics and this is what it turns into.And I deal with a lot of politics at my workplace. I personally am re-thinking my affiliation to IF, exactly due to this reason.
We all deal with that in real life and we come to internet to have some fun. What is the harm in considering everyone else as mature adults? Why think only I am the mature adult here? For someone flirting might be a release from whatever their tensions are, for someone discussing calmly might be a release of tensions, People come to internet to have fun, get away from regular things in life, some time away from Dada/Dadi and Ekta and their sermons!!
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